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On 7/21/2020 at 6:04 PM, CalS said:

Same as you I'm hard pressed as to what sense it makes to encrypt something in your data and unencrypt it in your backup.  If one was exiting EN I suppose, but other than that??  Probably would have to be an EN option to do such a thing IAC. 

It's understandable that by saying "backup" one is referring to saving data in a particular program's proprietary format (EN, Excel, InDesign etc.) that could potentially be used at some future date to restore data. Although I do perform such backups regularly, I also want a way to output notes to a format that can be read outside of EN-- including unencrypted material. A paper, hard copy even that can be safely stored and accessed by family members who don't use EN (as one example). 

2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Well, about the initial question:

If you use the build in encryption feature, it will encrypt parts of a note, containing text. EN does not allow for the encryption of a complete notebook or note, or attachment - just text content. Pretty restricted, and I agree to @DTLow sort of a lock-in. It gets close to be useless when you use the same key / password on all of them. Better from a security aspect would be to use an own key for each, but this is a nightmare in key handling.

To be able to decrypt all of them in one go during export makes the encryption tight as a sieve. That sounds to me as a full security breach, because it probably exposes the password / key in the program used to decrypt.

If you have 900 notes, 10% of them encrypted, makes a total of 90 encrypted notes. I use 1Password to manage my confidential information. It has a feature called "Private notes" that could easily take the (text) content of 90 notes, store them in a much better protected place, and allow for the encrypted notes to be purged from EN once and for all.

As long as EN does not massively improve on the encryption feature, I would discontinue using it.

I've been using EN for a long while. Initially I just was saving personal notes that had no security implications. Various clips from the www, bookmarks, and such. Over time I began to use more for things like website logins to store names/passwords. For "public" kinds of sites-- forums, news, vendors, etc. I wasn't that concerned about security. 

I'm now at a point where I actually do have some notes containing much more sensitive information such as CCard sites and banks. At that point I began encrypting all of that information but I have to admit I never took an in-depth look at how "secure" EN's security is. A number of users here seem to express considerable concern when it comes to EN's security, questioning how vulnerable one's notes might actually be. Obviously I'll need to take a closer look and make a determination as to whether any risk is worth the convenience. 

Risk aside, it is very convenient having one's information available on multiple platforms. But... 

4 hours ago, CalS said:

Aha-- got it. That works. Thanks. 

On 7/17/2020 at 10:55 AM, gazumped said:

Just as an observation - IMHO tidying curating databases in Windows is an incredibly satisfying,  time-consuming,  and largely pointless process.  Having a smaller database does mean it occupies less disk space - but you need to clear megabytes of notes for that to be a significant saving.  You're not improving your upload status - what's hit the server is old news.  It's what you process in future that affects your score,  and for premium subscribers (IME) you really have to push to get close to any limits.  Better to spend time actually doing work.

I speak as the proud possessor of 50K+ notes going back probably 50 years (I converted the paper I saved before I got to Evernote).  I delete old stuff if it leaps out at me,  but that's about it.  Storage is cheap - even my backups are less than 100GB on a multi-terabyte external drive. 

'Work' time is for getting things done. 'Me' time is unrepentant selfish indulgent hedonism. (Ideally....)

Yep, we're pretty much on the same page when it comes to effort vs. reward with respect to data management. When the old stuff does "leap out at me" it's like looking at a time machine in some respects. Sometimes pleasant, other times almost frightening. 😄

On 7/17/2020 at 9:40 AM, xaa said:

ps: You can use "encryption:" in the search field to list all encrypted notes. 

 

Hmmm... that doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps I'm missing something? 

14 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I also use html export as an Evernote backup

I don't use Evernote's encryption feature - I don't want to be locked into Evernote   
I use encrypted attachments (pdfs, office/iwork documents, ...)   
The encryption is valid outside the Evernote platform

Sounds like a good approach. Don't want to go that route myself hence looking for a way to export encrypted notes. Might not be possible I guess...

I've been using EN for many years and one of these days (famous last words) I need to sit down and go through all my notebooks that contain notes that have long since become useless. 

Apologies if this has been discussed but couldn't find a solution by searching...

I have around 900 notes and probably at least 10% of them contained encrypted information. What I want to do is to create a backup of all notes, but when I do that via .html e.g. the encrypted notes remain encrypted. Is there any way to export notes and "unencrypt" notes?