Yes, I Imagine that there must be some kind of translation going on somewhere; even though, when I go into the edit box for that live link the code is identical; but alas there are is no way to edit that as the box is greyed out. Thanks again, I appreciate your interest in this topic. I'll follow up support, but if you have any further insight I'd glad of that. p.s . nice to be talking to a fellow UK user. Paul (Gloucester).