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NorcalScott last won the day on December 26 2020

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  1. Interesting take - so you are saying that Evernote will benefit from some of their most passionate paying customers leaving the platform to one of the many other competing solutions, and that there is somehow a large number of “new”paying customers who will come in and ensure profitability? Who do you see as these new customers? Note taking and task apps are not a new and exciting industry - most users who are willing to pay anything for a solution are either using Evernote and feeling certain levels of pain from this recent debacle, or have used Evernote and left for various reasons. I
  2. Yes, the responsiveness of the Joplin author, Laurent, is great, and he is always cordial no matter how basic the question. I am fully up and running now on Joplin and really liking it. I have about 10,000 notes loaded and syncing through DropBox between my Windows laptop, iPad (Air 2019) and Android phone (LG G7). The biggest surprise with Joplin is how good the web clipper is. I have tried all the different page capture formats and am finding that "Clip Simplified Page" is almost always perfect. Search also is superb - results on all platforms come up in seconds. It is strange
  3. You are right that mark down is somewhat limited but there are some very good open source command line tools that can do quite a bit with it for getting data into and out of other systems. Good to know that the 50 file limit is no longer an issue. That alone would be a show stopper for me. It may be good if Evernote would just provide a full accounting of what they are planning, and when the legacy products will be deprecated. If their intentions are in the user's best long-term interests, they have certainly caused themselves a lot of harm with the lack of communications.
  4. I've not had much success doing anything with the HTML export - most of the other products do not interpret it correctly and you end up with a lot of orphan files if you try to import it. However, as a strict backup it does make a lot of sense, and I'll give credit to Evernote for providing this. Regarding the export - I understand that "today" the export is from the local database, but my understanding is that the new platform will do the export from the cloud. I may be wrong, as there has been very little information provided as to the future plans (that I've seen). If that is the ca
  5. Joplin is led by the creator of the project, and there are around 30-40 other developers who work on it in their spare time. There are no guarantees, of course, but the work there is motivated by a desire to move the solution ahead, not by the profit and loss of venture capitalist funds. Many folks also contribute money to Joplin to help cover costs. In any event, as it is open source and the data files are easily exported as mark down text, I don't see much risk, but your opinion of that risk may be different than mine.
  6. I agree that to date Evernote has made it somewhat easy to export files that can be imported into other solutions. However, these exports in the ENEX format are still proprietary and require quite a bit of manipulation in order to handle in another application, which is one reason for some of my problems. Joplin can export in mark-down text which is much easier to manipulate on import into a different product. One thing all Evernote subscribers should be aware of - Evernote 10 only allows for export of 50 files at a time as the database will be cloud hosted only as far as we know. (I su
  7. This whole episode with Evernote 10 has made me realize that it is really important for me to break away from a proprietary system in which 10 years of my work could possibly be at the mercy of decisions made that do not necessarily consider my best interests at heart. Even if Evernote were to completely reverse their decision on rolling out what I believe to be an inferior solution, I would still feel this way. But, to be clear, choosing an open source solution like Joplin is not for everyone. I am very close to having transferred all 10 years of my notes and attachments into Joplin, t
  8. The comment of the CEO about few users using tags is what concerned me the most, to be honest. Tags are a VERY big part of my workflow, and the main reason I chose Evernote in the beginning. Maybe others don't use them, but my job requires storing of information that needs to be categorized by several different criteria, and tags are very useful for this. The way I see it, there are some huge warning signs here: - EN seems to be saying that power users are not that big of a concern to them, and I am a power user (to an extent) - They seem to be saying that key features I use are
  9. Agreed about Joplin - I am trying it out and both desktop (Windows) and mobile apps (iPad and Android) are very fast. Searching is amazingly fast. Downside with Joplin is no good way to create notes from emails, but I think I can get around that. It should be embarrassing to Evernote that an open source app is so much better performing than their app, even with encryption enabled (which is a major perk of Joplin by the way).
  10. Agreed, not a lot of inspiration there - maybe an acknowledgement that they will need to support the legacy app much longer than they hoped. As a product manager working on cross platform software products, I suspected that this whole thing is driven by cutting down the effort from supporting several platforms with several teams to several platforms with a single team. (I've gone through this a few times) That's much easier desired than done without a lot of turmoil, and it has been seriously mishandled here in my view. I'll continue to use the legacy app as long as I can, and I
  11. Update from the CEO of Evernote pertinent to this discussion: https://evernote.com/blog/state-of-the-product/ He acknowledges they screwed up pushing not ready for prime time versions out.
  12. Hmmm, I have about 8,000 work notes from over 10 years. Do I look at 5% of them? No, not really, but that is missing the point of a solution like Evernote completely. I may need to find a contact or a bit of information from one of those notes from 2012, and there is this thing called "Search" that lets me pull that up from the records database quite easily (in the legacy app, but not in the 10.x app currently). I don't use color coding, but I do use tags extensively, so really, if I have a note from Company X from 2012, I can just click that tag and what I am looking for is likely no more
  13. I'm impressed with your confidence in a company that has shown on more than one occasion in the past that they do not always have the best interests of their customers in mind when they make decisions. I've been a heavy user of a paid Evernote account for about 10 years. I rely on this product, that I am happy to pay for in my day-to-day work. I am a busy person and Evernote is a critical part of my workflow. When I am presented with a notice that "The new Evernote has arrived" and really coerced into installing it, and then after trying to use it for a day finding it absolutely unusab
  14. I've been living in a bubble, I guess and knew nothing about the "new" Evernote, and have been happily using the older version. Today it more or less forced me to upgrade to 10.4.4 and Holy $%^^ this is awful! The search seems better, but I cannot find a single other thing that I like about it. It's slow, my note fonts are suddenly HUGE, my tags no longer show the note counts, etc. etc. Went back to the legacy version which appears will only be supported for a limited time 😲 If the legacy app stops working for me I will switch to some other solution, and I have been a paying Evernote
  15. It seems that this issue is still happening. This leads me to believe that it is not in fact a "bug" as indicated in previous communications with Evernote support, rather, this is just a "pester a paid user into upgrading to the next level" sort of thing. Very disappointing.
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