rjparker1

OK it seems there are just too many open and unresolved items for Evernote, either the team is overworked or ambivalent. Either way Microsoft OneNote seems to be what I need (sure this group doesn't care). I have cancelled my Evernote which is a great product unfortunately has too many limitations that I am not willing to overcome, OneNote as a turns out has way more features (as of 2016 version) and I can choose where to store by file (online or offline) and don't have to deal with line space, PDF problems or beta issues with a polished product. Argue or not I am a customer (and appears evernote has no quantification for this) and I should get what I want, that's EXACTLY why I am switching. Not endorsing OneNote merely signaling my discontent with the current Evernote status.. maybe in a year or 10 I might entertain another switch but I am getting off this Titanic (over stating as it may be) if it's NOT working as planned it may as well be considered a FAILURE. Period. It should just work. I have used Evernote exclusively for almost 5 years and it's rather ridiculous it has to come to this. I guess I should finally realize why Microsoft is so big.. they do what NEEDS to be done not make excuses (jefito), you really need to stop trying to assuage products that are not living up their potential.. I like to give the underdog the benefit of the doubt, but that endeavor fails me more than I can remember. You think small you stay small . . . . .

Break yes but remove previous feature NO they do NOT. They keep current features add new ones still manage to keep it working but still add new functionality.. BETA is nature to break stuff but not render it useless. Not supposed to work that way. Exactly but in this case there are WAY too many features missing to call this an 'oops'.. it seems like they started over to abandon the current version to start over, that's my point. I have been a beta tester for Microsoft for YEARS NEVER had a product including Windows that was missing or completely gone that customers were actively using, they didn't just release an OS and say 'oh yeah we need to add file system permissions or we forgot to include powershell'. The existing features are still there just maybe upgraded or perhaps moved or changed name but not gone. The BETA editor in Evernote I have to enable it, then I can edit stuff, if I restart or close Chrome it no longer works. Have to revert to 'classic' then re-enable editor. Too many bugs to be useful and LOTS of things were working before BETA. First of all BETA is the version just before release.. you have an ALPHA to start design phase. BETA is supposed to be version to test features to ensure final product is smooth, then you have a pre-release and a 'GOLD' release as a final test.. this is like a pre-Alpha, that's how it feels. You are kidding right? OF COURSE there are rules that why in development world there are STANDARDS, that's why companies use API and code.. if you have no rules well then you are doing it wrong. Not how ANY company (and I work for a development software company) works. I have developers looking at me because they heard me laughing and they are like ???!?! What does he mean 'no rules'.. that's crazy. You can't just make up stuff as you go, but then again that explains a lot for Evernote. If that's how 'cowboys' do it Redood City, well you are off the grid. Besides we are not talking about a new product we are talking about a new FEATURE in that product, I can simply hit edit.. and do what I need but BETA no so much..... you can't rewrite an edit function that worked before, that's bad development process. Sounds like you are moving forward no matter what I say, I guess if you speak for everyone at Evernote then I have no more use for you then. And it's NOT reality of the software business maybe you live in an alternate universe but in the REAL world not how it works. It also seems like you have NO QA, TEST or even a customer test of software .. you just have 'here it is take it or leave it' approach. (leave us a comment!) Awesome. You should keep your day job because if you move to another company they will laugh you out of the room if you mention how you did things 'back there'... Incredibly non-sense way of doing things. Evernote will lose customers.. then maybe management will go back and say 'where did we go wrong'... Well jefito said 'it was fast and loose'.. and that's when the roof caved in.. ah well maybe we should learn from that.

Yeah automobiles go through the same thing, but they don't ditch working engines and transmissions just to make way for some unified experience. I am all for new features just don't BREAK existing methods. I have been in too many betas, projects and coding to know that you don't abandon the existing usefulness of a product just to start over with new features you can still incorporate what is already working. The idea for BETA is to ADD functionality not start over, then it wouldn't be evernote it would be a COMPLETELY new product. So if that's how it's going to be then maybe it's time to move on to OneNote or Google Keep, because my functionality is being interrupted and breaking my way of doing things. Yeah I know BETA is strictly voluntary but I don't expect to have to QA test and be a reminder that this used to work and that used to work either... It should just work.. and add functionality in the process. Apple, Microsoft, Google they all manage to keep the fires burning while they add new things to the empire, we don't burn down the old castle to make room for a new one, you build a new castle with basic foundation because you learn from the past.. you don't start completely over, that's just void of common sense. It's also how things will get missed.

Yeah I am using Chrome, if I switch to Beta Editor it's fine to edit and make changes.. UNTIL I close Chrome then it doesn't work anymore. Next time I open Chrome beta editor doesn't work, double click, right click no option to 'edit' anymore. I have to change back to classic. Not only that but it converts ALL my content to HTML, it's one long listing in a note. I have to revert to Classic to make changes . Don't understand 'beta' editor it WAS working fine.. beta CHANGES should not change overall behavior.. just ADD some new features, why re-invent the wheel?!?!

Genius.. that's good enough for me, thanks.

Can we make notes read only? I accidentally hit information inside notes in trying to copy \ paste on my mobile. Then I end up saving it only to find out later that I moved something. Is there a way in Evernote to mark a notebook or note as read only so I don't accidentally change data?