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  1. I have been advocating for this feature ever since I became an evernote user. If they implemented keyboard shortcuts, us blind people would be able to use the web version more which is really the only version from the desktop that I could remotely use. Why it hasn't been implemented, I have no idea. It seems so simple and since evernote is all about writing, wouldn't it be easier to keep your hands on the keyboard so you can keep writing away and just use keyboard shortcuts? Furthermore, as I have advocated, if the people at Evernote were to implement keyboard shortcuts, they might be able to get an entirely new market of blind computer users such as myself to use their apps. The only app that is sort of accessible is the Iphone app, and that's even a stretch. The other issue is that the EML is propriotary and the HTML elements that screen readers need to access are all barred from use. But still, even with that aside, keyboard shortcuts are the main thing in the web version that would make it work.
  2. Because the view that EN uses to display their notes is unreadable to Every screen reader out there. i've tried them all, even with OCR it doesn't work. It's labeled as a class called WebViewHost and it doesn't seem to employ any sort of browser-like functionality, say, like, an html5 window might. So I can't interact with it like a normal webpage. It's just an unknown control type and reclassing the window as an edit box or rich edit box doesn't give me any feedback either. It's very frustrating because I don't know how to get around it. Other than that, the desktop app works fine. If I could render that WebViewHost as something that Window-Eyes could read, like a regular webpage (so I could use html-esque navigation hotkeys), then we'd really be getting somewhere.
  3. Because the view that EN uses to display their notes is unreadable to Every screen reader out there. i've tried them all, even with OCR it doesn't work. It's labeled as a class called WebViewHost and it doesn't seem to employ any sort of browser-like functionality, say, like, an html5 window might. So I can't interact with it like a normal webpage. It's just an unknown control type and reclassing the window as an edit box or rich edit box doesn't give me any feedback either. It's very frustrating because I don't know how to get around it. Other than that, the desktop app works fine. If I could render that WebViewHost as something that Window-Eyes could read, like a regular webpage (so I could use html-esque navigation hotkeys), then we'd really be getting somewhere.
  4. Hi. Could you PLEASE implement keyboard shortcuts into the next release of EN Web Beta? As a totally blind computer user, I can't use the Windows desktop version fully and the Ios version won't let me edit a note with Voiceover once I've created it. And the current web version has no shortcuts. This has been brought up before on the forum, and if you put the shortcuts in, I might be able to use the application fully. It's admittedly frustrating to have to devise hacks that are sketchy at best to use a program that is so widely used and convenient. I see so much potential and ways to improve accessibility, I really want to help in that arena. But I feel like I have to beg for keyboard shortcuts, when I know that others who are keyboard-based users could benefit from them as well.
  5. Hi. I would like to use emails to send to Evernote for a journal, but I want to put a date into the subject line. If I do that, I'd like to Not create a reminder, just to title the note with the date. Is this possible? can I put a - before the date or something so EN doesn't recognize it as a reminder?
  6. Great! I will definitely look at these. Yes, please, if anyone has suggestions either to the suggestion of a new web interface or the original post about rendering of notes, that would be much appreciated.
  7. Hey Rob, just saw your reply to this. I had forgotten about the copy note link option from the desktop client. However, the web clients (both beta and classic) are not very accessible in any browser. Internet Explorer shows me a bunch of script that my reader just spits out pointlessly. Firefox is just...a mess with the clients, that's about all I can say. If they would implement keyboard shortcuts in the new beta, then it Might, just might, get better. But as of now, that seems to be on the back burner for some strange reason.
  8. I am working both avenues of asking Evernote about their accessibility aspirations (or, sadly, lack thereof) and trying to work with some screen reader scripting developers on making Evernote more accessible. I'd do it myself, I just don't know any code and have no idea what to look for when it comes to making it accessible. I just know what works and what doesn't. Hence, my reason for starting this particular thread. I think that if I can get the answer to how a note is rendered (if that's even close to the popular term) in a new window, how it is portrayed and what sort of background language, I can start asking developers how to go about making it somehow accessible. I've looked at the API documentation for the windows cloud api, but I have no idea what I'm reading, it's way over my head. So, yes, any insight is greatly appreciated. What I wish to impart to the Evernote developers is that they are missing out on a pretty large market of people who are blind who could use their service if they would redesign it to make it more accessible. It would probably also allow for more bugs to be worked out in the long run. Just my thoughts. Thanks, Dave
  9. Hi there. I am trying to figure out what format Evernote notes open in when they open in a new window on the Desktop client. This is because I am totally blind and every screen reader I use cannot read a note opened from the Evernote desktop client. It just has a blank screen. However, when I do a Select All and then copy the text to the clipboard and paste into a plaintext app like notepad, I can read the note. The problem is that all the formatting is gone. So, I understand that Evernote uses the ENML for notes, but I wonder if there would be a way to have a note rendered in the desktop client as if it were a webpage, so that I could sue my screen reader's web viewing mode to read the note and its contents? it's as if the note is just an image of the actual note itself. i'm just trying to figure out how to make this desktop client usable because the web clients (beta and regular) are becoming less so as time goes on. But when I open up a new note in the desktop client and look at the window class, it says something like WebhostView. I don't know what that signifies but it seems like there would be a way to get the text of the note in some sort of navigable format. The problem, too, is that I can't read what I've written in a note once i"ve typed it. Because whatever it is being rendered in isn't recognized by the screen reader to read it back. So, my main question is, how is the info in a note encoded in the desktop client and how hard would it be to modify that encoding so that it looks like, say, an email in MS Outlook, which is fully accessible with my reader. Does anyone have any advice on this? Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to get my ideas out there. Thanks, Dave
  10. Nothing officially announced, but I did notice that some formatting shortcuts now work (Ctrl-B for Bold, Ctrl-I for Italics, Ctrl+1 through 9 for header styles, etc.) I couldn't find a way to display them all though (i.e. quick help window/overlay). Yeah, it would be really nice to see those keyboard shortcuts, as it is the web and desktop clients are becoming less and less accessible to screen reader users, it makes me sad.
  11. apologies, I've been away from this discussion, but have the keyboard shortcuts been implemented yet? If so, where can i get a list of them?
  12. still no keyboard functionality? I can't use the beta and test it for accessibility until that's implemented, but I will give this week's release a shot, maybe a bug was fixed that I need fixed. As it stands, when I go to find a notebook, the page somehow refreshes and shoots me to the top of it. I'll test with a few different screen readers and see if it's just window-eyes. I'm sorry, I don't want to be a nag, I just think that this beta could really work well if accessibility isaddressed right off the bat.
  13. yep, I agree, put in those keyboard shortcuts ASAP. There really aren't ones for the current web app. I actually have figured out that I can't even beta test the new web ap without having keyboard shortcuts of some kind. My screen reader gets really confused even just trying to find a notebook. So, I'd love to help with accessibility but I can't even access the interface.
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