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  1. Thanks for your post PeeJayTee (#94) - I have retreated to version 5.8.12 on my production systems but will re-install a newer version of 5.9 on one of my non-production systems when I see word that the tables problem has been fixed. I am pretty sure that all the tables I am using were created from within Evernote for the simple reason that I mostly live within the Evernote eco-system and only exit into MS Word when absolutely necessary - for example, the conformance certificates I issue have a "pretty" colour header and footer in an MS Word template - and I simply cut and paste part of the contents of my Evernote template into an MS Word template and rarely - if ever - copy and paste from MS Word into Evernote. FWIW - I am really not sure how I could cope without Evernote to achieve what I am currently doing - so a big vote of thanks to the Evernote team for creating a product that really improves my productivity. I guess I could just about manage without Evernote, but my leadtimes would go way out - and time isn't something that some of my applicants have too much of.
  2. @EFG @Annie E Yes, it is possible to roll-back to your previous version of Evernote if you have been using Auto-update. Find your Evernote folder (if you are not sure of where it is, go into Evernote, click Tools, then Options, and at the bottom of the panel, click Open Database folder - that shows you where the folder is). Once you have found it, look for a folder within the Evernote folder called "AutoUpdate", open it, and click on the highest version number before 5.9 (in my case it was 5.8.12). This is an executable file which will remove the current version of Evernote (the dreaded 5.9!) and will then re-load 5.8. It may take a few minutes - but it certainly got me back to where I wanted to be! Also - be aware that there is also some discussion taking place on this issue in the Forum: "New Evernote for Windows 5.9.1" - not that the Evernote Mothership seems to be publicly showing much interest in this problem (!) Good Luck!
  3. Errrm! There does seem to be a certain amount of silence from the Evernote team on the various table issues noted above. I would like to think that someone (or even better, someones - plural) at the Evernote Mothership is/are seriously and intellectually addressing this (these) problems - but the silence is just a trifle worrying. In the meantime I have rolled back to 5.8.12 (with some help from rchris) and am getting on with some productive (and revenue producing) work - but it would be nice to have some re-assurance that the problem is not just being ignored, or has simply been allocated to the three-legged, one-eyed cat that guards the back door.
  4. Cross posted from Forum Topic: "Table formatting messed up in the latest update" describing problem with tables used as templates: This is becoming a serious pain in the butt as far as I am concerned. As mentioned above I am using templates based on tables stored in Evernote to process applications. I get an application - I fill in a blank template - I send completed template to applicant - I bank money from applicant: Like - this is how I make a living! Now: One part of the template is a table consisting of one column and seven rows. Each row of the table contains several lines of text and to complete the template it is necessary to insert information after the text in each line. It is sometimes necessary hit carriage return to create a new (blank line) after the text that has just been entered. What now happens if you hit carriage return within a row is that instead of just opening up a blank line within the row, Evernote splits the table - the line where the cursor was when you hit carriage return now floats as a row all by itself, and the following line of text floats in a space below the (now floating) row above. Yes, Ctrl+Z will recover it to where I was before - sometimes, not always. Come on guys - this is not how it is supposed to work! Another problem: Part of the template is a check list consisting of a two line table with 8 columns. The upper row has check items already filled in, responses to the check list are entered in the second row when completing the application form. It used to be possible to move back along the 2nd row when filling in the check responses to edit previous text entries. Not any longer! Shift+Tab will take you back to a previous cell, but if you try and edit the contents of that cell, either the text will freeze solid and can't be edited - or - the table will split (as described above) and the text in the cell you were trying to edit floats in free space between the row that has just become detached, and the rest of the table. Come on guys - that isn't supposed to happen either! Could we please please have some resort resource on this problem to get it solved yesterday if not sooner? This is a serious problem!!! I am going cross post this to the Ver 5.9.1 release thread - just in case support don't visit here!
  5. This is becoming a serious pain in the butt as far as I am concerned. As mentioned above I am using templates based on tables stored in Evernote to process applications. I get an application - I fill in a blank template - I send completed template to applicant - I bank money from applicant: Like - this is how I make a living! Now: One part of the template is a table consisting of one column and seven rows. Each row of the table contains several lines of text and to complete the template it is necessary to insert information after the text in each line. It is sometimes necessary hit carriage return to create a new (blank line) after the text that has just been entered. What now happens if you hit carriage return within a row is that instead of just opening up a blank line within the row, Evernote splits the table - the line where the cursor was when you hit carriage return now floats as a row all by itself, and the following line of text floats in a space below the (now floating) row above. Yes, Ctrl+Z will recover it to where I was before - sometimes, not always. Come on guys - this is not how it is supposed to work! Another problem: Part of the template is a check list consisting of a two line table with 8 columns. The upper row has check items already filled in, responses to the check list are entered in the second row when completing the application form. It used to be possible to move back along the 2nd row when filling in the check responses to edit previous text entries. Not any longer! Shift+Tab will take you back to a previous cell, but if you try and edit the contents of that cell, either the text will freeze solid and can't be edited - or - the table will split (as described above) and the text in the cell you were trying to edit floats in free space between the row that has just become detached, and the rest of the table. Come on guys - that isn't supposed to happen either! Could we please please have some resort resource on this problem to get it solved yesterday if not sooner? This is a serious problem!!! I am going cross post this to the Ver 5.9 release thread - just in case support don't visit here!
  6. I am having problems with table too now that I have updated to ver 5.9: I use templates based on partially pre-filled tables. When I start adding information into blank boxes in the template the most unexpected things happen - like I'm typing into a blank box, and all the sudden the table splits into two tables and the next is dumped into the blank space between the tables. This is a revenue-generating application and I really cannot afford to be messed around - is there away of rolling back to ver 5.8?
  7. Well, that's good to hear Jack. However, I do have a few comments to make. Firstly, I think there are a lot of folk out there that have demonstrated that they believe Evernote is a truly unique product that helps them hugely in their daily lives - whether for personal or business reasons. As I have related elsewhere, I have developed a way of using Evernote that not only generates a revenue stream for me (putting bread on the table and paying the rent), but also helps people in a humanitarian way. I could do it without Evernote, but it would cost me a lot of extra effort and time. Secondly, I'm sorry, but I really don't feel that EN support is really doing what it should be doing: I have submitted multiple tickets, but all I have got back is a message saying, "I've pushed this further up the line", but I have never got a definitive reply that "this or that has been fixed". I finally get an e-mail asking "has the issue been fixed?". Well, yes, the problem does seem to have gone away, but I'm not quite sure why or how. Could we have a bit more feedback, in the form of, "We have done this and that, and that should make the problem go away". Also, Gaz has pointed out that Support does not respond to problems reported on the forums - fair enough - but then they don't respond in any other way either. Thirdly (and lastly), I do hope that we will get a bit more feedback on what the problems were and how they have been fixed. Not just the bland, "Well, we found a few sync problems and we fixed 'em". I for one would like to understand what the problems were: I suspect that this has been a cross-function problem and may have to do with the size of notes, the fact that they contained URL's, and also has something to do with IP addresses. After all, when all is said and done - we the users are the people that make or break the product, so please help us to help you understand what we need (and what we don't need). // set rant = off
  8. Hi Chris - I would second Gaz's suggestion! But you need to be a bit careful and turn off automatic sync and sync on exit (otherwise you can truly create a Real Bad Day for yourself). The purists will likely roll their eyeballs - but I have used the technique on a number of occasions (only windows system to windows system) - see my post #15 at https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/79917-persistent-sync-error/?p=337930 Works for me! Good Luck!
  9. You can find the thread about new release 5.8.2 at https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/80258-evernote-for-windows-582-beta/#entry339085 and there are other threads about the sync bug here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/79932-evernote-for-windows-5816061-sync-bug/ and here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/79917-persistent-sync-error/?p=337930
  10. Deepest sympathy raghu102! I had much the same experience, starting at much the same time. This problem is spread across several discussion forums (for example, https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/79932-evernote-for-windows-5816061-sync-bug/ and https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/80258-evernote-for-windows-582-beta/#entry339085 ) A number of causes have been suggested (very large indiviual notes ( >100Mb) and also poor network problems). Recently I have noticed some anecdotal evidence that Evernote Clipper and embedded URL's might be a partial cause of the problem. Rather than use Clipper, I am using an extension to Firefox called "Clearly" which seems "cleaner" than Clipper (though not quite as much control - you have to watch which notebook it saves the clipped article to and move it to the required notebook. The other solution that worked for me is that I managed to get one system to synchronise, and then copied the database folder to another system that was persistently refusing to synchronise - and that solved the my problem. See note #15 above. And I am no longer having sync problems. I don't feel comfortable resorting to such techniques - but it has certainly saved me a lot of heartache. From all accounts the Support Team are continuing to work on this problem - but it seems to persist for some users. I rather feel that slow connection speed is part of the problem. So I'm now keeping my fingers crossed that I am somehow back in business with systems that synchronise. However, continuous typing with my fingers crossed is very awkward - so I hope Support come up with a definitive fix Real Soon! Good Luck!
  11. For those that might be interested - have posted some comments in the 5.8.2 discussion forum at: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/80258-evernote-for-windows-582-beta/#entry338897 @C6REW #44 - Chris - That lends some credibility to my feeling that this problem also has something to do with the communications link - maybe your office connection is better quality than your home study connection?
  12. I have to comment that my experience makes me very twitchy about introducing a beta version of anything into a production environment. That having been said, I suppose if nothing is working (syncing), then you haven't anything to lose. To define the apparent problem rather more precisely, it seems that this is a problem for users using a Windows Client (Mac and Android Client users seem unaffected), and anecdotal accounts suggest that it may be caused by large notes (with lots of images), and possibly by low-speed internet connections. Furthermore, again anecdotally, the problem seems to equally hit users with huge volumes of notes (I have seen the number 15 000 notes mentioned) as well as users with a much smaller number of notes (I have seen one user with a couple of hundred notes). Whilst I have the greatest respect for those users who have totally removed Evernote (using Revo) and then re-installed, it seems this course of action may or may not work. It does also seem to me (without the benefit of any specialised knowledge) that this problem lies somewhere in the "pipe" between Evernote's servers and the user's interface on a Windows Client machine. In this context I define the word "pipe" as everything that happens between Evernote's Servers and the Windows Client (ie. Evernote's code, the Internet link, and the software running on the Windows Client). Here I would make the point that the fact that your machine is running Windows and my machine is running Windows does not mean that the same things are happening under the covers - Microsoft continue to push out "Critical" and "Important" patches to the various flavours of Windows, and the description of the patches become ever more vague. There's not much I can do about this, but I would ask the support team/development team to take some notice of this because it's not unknown for Microsoft to issue a patch that solves one problem but creates a completely new problem. Lastly, I would like to try and understand the ramifications of another possible means of remediation. In my case I had the situation where nothing was syncing. Shock, Horror, Despair! Then my desktop machine started syncing, but my laptop continued to fail. Running in desperation mode, I copied the Evernote "Database" folder from my Desktop to my laptop - and (Cheers, Cries of Joy & Clapping Hands!), my laptop then sync'd quite happily, and has continued so to do. My hypothesis is that this cleared an irrecoverable problem in the "pipe" and permitted the laptop to happily sync. What I would like to understand is whether there is anything in the "Database" folder which is platform (ie. Windows, Mac or Android) specific, and whether there is anything that is specific to that particular client in the DB folder. In my case, my desktop machine is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, and the laptop is running Windows XP, so it was kind of the same platform, but two different version of Windows. I would really welcome some input from the EN development and/or support teams on this - even if it's a huge snort of derision, provided the snort is accompanied with some reasoning as to "why it is Not A Good Idea" Anyone?
  13. @Jackolicious - Apologies! But this problem has been so desperate for a lot of folks (self included) that may be I'm not thinking too straight.
  14. Hi Harris Be aware that there is currently a huge synchronisation problem at Evernote for people using Windows clients - I know of at least six other discussion forums that are running on this problem, and am suggesting that unhappy windows users concentrate on a single discussion forum to get the message across to EN Support that they need to do something about this: here is my message pointing to a single forum: Just in case you are reading this discussion forum and are suffering Evernote Sync problems yourself, please be aware that there are a number of other discussion forums dealing with the same problem. Could I suggest that we all register collective displeasure at the apparent lack of support from Evernote on a single discussion forum? The one that seems the most active can be found at: https://discussion.e...ug/#entry338437 Look forward to seeing you there!
  15. Hi Lloyd Be aware that this is currently a HUGE problem with Evernote - so (cold comfort I know) you are not alone. There are at least five other discussion forums running, and I am suggesting that we all try and report on a single forum to get the message across to EN support that they really need to do something about it. It seems to only impact Windows clients - Apple and Android devices seem to work like it says on the box. The thought that is coming across is that it might have something to do with large notes and/or flaky internet connections. Suggest you take a look at this discussion forum: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/79932-evernote-for-windows-5816061-sync-bug/ Good Luck!
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