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    Evernote Legacy

    in Evernote General Discussions

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    On 8/27/2023 at 2:13 PM, PinkElephant said:

    @Mitoids If we can assure you about one thing: EN legacy will never ever get an update.

    If there was a theoretical chance, it’s gone since the dev team was replaced. 

    Actually I don’t care anymore if somebody doesn’t like this or misses that. EN should just set a date, then pull the plug, and focus on the future.

    Legacy is only a burden of dead, outdated code requiring backend resources and making anything more complicated than necessary.

    Thanks for your comments.

    I'm not suggesting that Evernote should continue maintaining or updating the Legacy version.   

    I work in IT and software development and I understand the reasons for phasing out EN Legacy, and for keeping the current code base platform-agnostic as much as possible.  Usually, I'm fast to upgrade my personal software and to push my clients to stay current on their systems and applications.

    @agsteele's point about RTE makes sense.  I was not aware of Ctrl-R.  That's great.   I can even exit and restart the app if/when the sync stops working. 

    However, I would like to see EN bring some of the Legacy (e.g. tabs for OS X) features to the current version.  Lots of other threads on this topic--I know.  Not worth our time to revisit here.

    Evernote Legacy

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    On 5/4/2023 at 6:09 AM, HeBoIz said:

    I have a hard time imagining that those who still use the legacy version today don't really know that there is an entirely new Evernote version with lots of new functionality with version 10, which was introduced 2 1/2 years ago. I would assume instead that many continue to use the old version for very specific purposes or for specific and personal reasons. For this, according to my memory, many individual reasons and arguments should be found in this forum spread over many threads (also for why others have left Evernote because they could not make friends with V10).

    As for me, Evernote was (and is) - even with V10 - my PKM, my "second brain" and therefore - privately or in the office - "allways open". This I use for daily work, note editing, linking and thinking.

    For this and my personal use and focus, I don't need a dashboard, elaborate task management solutions (for that I would prefer specialists like todoist), additional collaboration features or novel AI applications to which I would have to entrust my information and data. 

    But what counts and is of crucial importance for me is a fast and immediate access to my notes and a speedy and fluent editing of notes, fast searching and finding as well as simple and fast possibilities for reorganization as well as networking and tagging of my notes. In addition, I don't want to be completely dependent on an online service, but rather have the ability to access my notes remotely for emergency purposes, or to export them in a way that can be used in a variety of ways or, in some cases, to transfer them to other and more suitable systems. For this, the legacy version offers me many functions that are still missing in V10, a blazing fast search without dependence on server communication, locally stored data, extensive export functions and fast and easy possibilities of reorganization and keywording.

    It is true that I do not need these functions on a daily basis, but only on certain occasions or as a fallback. It may also be that my need to access the legacy version will be partially taken care of with the improved performance provided by the new sync. But for now, I'd like to have the legacy version available as a quick backup and complementary work environment for as long as possible.

    In view of the lack of speed and unsecured immediate and cross-system access to my data and notes, including all-round fluid editing, Evernote has already lost some of its significance as a pkm or second brain for me over the course of the last 2 1/2 years. as a pkm or second brain. Parts of my content and use cases have shifted quite satisfactorily to other solutions such as Workflowy or Obsidian. Against this background, rising prices for Evernote - probably not only for me - increasingly trigger thoughts about where and how I might want to organize my information differently in the future.

    Considering that legacy is, in my estimation, very consciously continued to be used, at least by the paying users, I would prefer to do without update reminders anyway. For the non-paying users of the free version, where legacy should still be installed, I assume that they hardly use Evernote anyway. But these "users" will be difficult to persuade by a simple update to use and develop the new Evernote and this preferably as paying users to the increased costs. Growth rates and additional paying users could probably only be won with an even simpler and cheaper entry-level version.

    By the way, what disturbs and alienates me about the recently constantly appearing, advertising update reminder from Legacy to V10 is the incomplete and misleading information about what is triggered by clicking on update: It is not just a simple update to a newer Legacy version, but to the fundamentally new and different V10 version of Evernote. It may be difficult to go back after that. This decision has to be considered carefully. It should be clearly stated that (and why) an update to a fundamentally different version is recommended.

     

    I agree.  I've been using Evernote for 12.5 years. I have updated from Legacy to the current versions at least 3 times, most recently accidentally on one of my computers because I thought that Evernote had made updates to Legacy.  I'm going to go back to Legacy on that computer now--again.  This time the triggering reason is the lack of sync button on the current version...couldn't find the button to force a sync when automatic syncing had failed.

    I like to use tabs on my Mac.  I know there are browser workarounds and keyboard shortcuts, but they are annoying.   I don't want task management.  I also use ToDoist.  I don't care to use calendar integration.  

    I understand that Evernote is under pressure to add features and functionality.  It's a competitive market.  Unfortunately, I see standard, almost "must have" features being retired, and usability (for my purposes) suffering.

    I already use Devonthink for paperless office, scanning and document management.  I think it's time to explore expanding my use of that...

     

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    Rearrange tool bar

    in Evernote Teams Requests

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    On 2/1/2023 at 10:40 AM, MuYiMing said:

    I have a similar request ... I use a few of those functions a LOT, but most that show up on the tool bar in its current arrangement don't show... I always have to click through to perform simple, oft repeated functions. Would very much like to be able to organize a favourites toolbar for my regular work. 

     

    I completely agree.  In the latest version, buttons for To Do, Calendar, and AI Cleanup take up precious real estate on the left side of the window.  I don't use those functions and they are of no value to me.  

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