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  1. Happened again. Every note's reminder time set in the wee hours this morning that I've reviewed thus far have changed from (X):00:00 to (X-1):59:59 on another device.

    • I set the reminder times on my Dell laptop having Windows 7SP1 Pro with EN v. 5.8.13.8152 (276152) Public, which was defaulting to reminder times set for an hour later.
    • I am now using my HP desktop to edit/act on notes using Windows 7SP1 Pro with EN v. 5.8.11.8117 (276117) Public where the times are (X-1):59:59.
    • Just checked back with my Dell laptop where times remain (X):00:00.
    • Synced both PCs prior to checking times on a note created this morning with a reminder time set that I had not yet reviewed today.
    • With an existing note that I had reset the time this morning but had not yet touched today, on both my laptop and desktop, the reminder time changed from 8:00:00 to 7:59:59. However, I do not recall if I needed to reset the time on this. I did reset the date and would have ensured that the time was 8:00:00 as I was being extremely OCD about this this morning.
    • For a note that was throwing up conflict errors left and right for which I ultimately copied and pasted from to create a new note, the time remains the same on both machines. I had not yet touched this one either. Hooray! One note's reminder time wasn't altered.
    • Looking for an existing not that I have not yet touched but had edited both the date and timestamp this morning. Found one! Reset this morning from 08:00:00 to 14:00:00 on my Dell laptop. Just checked my HP desktop where the reminder time reads 13:59:59.

    Next time I will ensure that both machines are using same version prior to launch to see if that has a positive effect.

  2. Because the MSI uninstall process cleans up the shortcut (during RemoveShortcuts). During an upgrade, the old product is uninstalled and then the new one is installed. (If you know MSI terminology, we schedule RemoveExistingProducts before InstallInitialize)

     

    When you pin the app, we do not intervene. The _only_ API Microsoft provides for interfacing with a pinned item is IStartMenuPinnedList::RemoveFromList. I think that name is descriptive enough that it's obvious what it does...

     

    The _only_ legal way to get the shortcut to stick on upgrade is to change the installer to first do an install and then uninstall the old product. This has it's own set of issues, especially in an already released product.

     

    Bottom line, this is not going to change unless Microsoft changes msiexec.

     

     

    Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.

     

    I do see a lot of programs on my machine that do do the uninstall afterwards. Some are not pretty.

  3. Let's hope so! I know I've tried this with iTunes, another task bar hater, but I had no luck three or four years ago.* However, in looking at iTunes again, I notice that it's target location remains the same whether pinning from the Start Menu or from creating a shortcut from the exe and pinning that to the task bar. I'm pretty sure I've tried this with Evernote in the past. I'm just hoping that my memory is foggy or that Evernote allowed the target location to change as it is doing now.

     

    *No more need for iTunes now that Google Music's "Feeling Lucky" mixes have come along, they just get me. :)

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    I like having Evernote pinned to my taskbar for easy access. However, everything I update, its icon disappears from the taskbar. It is a minor annoyance, but it would be great if it would stay there.

     +1000. This. A thousand times this.

     

     

    Microsoft frowns on any installer messing with the task bar (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2003/09/03/54760.aspx). I believe (tho I haven't looked closely) that we do have some special cleanup code to remove the existing shortcut. Because if you don't, then an uninstall/install (or upgrade) would leave the old pinned item pointing to nothing. (I see that with other programs I use)

     

    How's that? Unless Evernote's application name changes or its file path changes, the "old" pinned item will still point to something. For those who manually pin Evernote to the taskbar, it is most likely pointing to C:\Program Files (x86)\Evernote\Evernote\Evernote.exe unless Evernote is intervening and doing something else and pointing to what, the registry? C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local (or Roaming)?

     

    Jeff, this is not helpful. We're talking about the Windows taskbar, not the notification area. Maybe you found a workaround and it's working for you, but that doesn't solve the problem we all have here. Every single time Evernote updates (several times a month) we have to RE-pin Evernote to the taskbar. It's retarded. In my taskbar, I have:

    • firefox
    • thunderbird
    • notepad++
    • all the adobe creative suite icons
    • quicken

    All of these programs get updated all the time as well, but NONE of them gets un-pinned in the process.

    As a matter of fact, I haven't experienced this unpinning behavior with ANY OTHER program. This is unique to Evernote.

     

    PLEASE. FIX. IT.

    With the exception of Quicken being Quickbooks and the addition of Chrome > surfing (Firefox > dev), our task bars are otherwise identical!

  5. 8:00am vs. 7:59am - A consistency request

     

    Preamble

    I forget and cannot right now find where I set the default reminder time (if I did at all and from the two seconds I spent here it looks like it is preset by EN itself) but... on EN Web, my default reminder time is 8:00 am of the day I set it even if that time is earlier in the day. On Android, reminders are automatically set 24 hours after I click to set a reminder. In the clipper, reminders are set for 8am of the day I set the reminder. And on Windows, reminders seem to vary. Sometimes they are set for 8am that day (or the next, too, I think), sometimes an hour later and sometimes 24 hours later. I think I have that correct. I just know that Windows is anything but consistent and it is frustrating.

     

    Amble

    For now, if and when Evernote ever implements recurring reminders, I like to have almost all of my notes needing reminders to be set at the same time, which is how I came (I now remember) to accept 8am as the default time (the majority of time at least). However, many, many of them show up having reminders of 7:59am, I am (re)setting them for 8:00am. I am not sure how 7:59am is happening because I am not setting reminders for 7:59am. But it would be nice if they were all 7:59am or all 8:00am or whatever I want as the default across all platforms.

     

    I have not really sat down to investigate if reminders set on one platform are converted from 8:00am to 7:59am in another platform. After nearly a year I figured that a pattern would emerge and reveal itself. Yet no such pattern has. At least not one without keeping a log. But I do know that this minor issue is distracting at times (like today when it was very much so), and I would like any suggestions on how to go about resolving this issue. Thanks.

     

    Postamble

    1 Android Lollipop, mobile app auto-updates

    2 Windows Pro 7SP1, desktop application auto-updates via ninite.com upon startup

    10+ Web, the pre-"new version" accessed in Chrome via 1 Lubuntu 14.04, X Windows 7SP1 Enterprise and 1 ChromeOS

     

    P.S. Yeah, I'll get over it now that I've said my peace. Piece?

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