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3 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

EN does not support it for a reason. Everything is "Basic", and if you add all that basic stuff, you end up with something bloated and complicated, which has nothing to do with basic any more.

An app is not perfect when you can't add anything new - it is perfect when it does exactly what is needed, without any extra features that block the sight and cloak up the UI. EN has refrained in the past from layout tools, and I hope they continue this tenure.

If you want layout capabilities, use a word processor or a page layout software.

I understand that, but they support bold, italics, links, indents, outdents, bullet lists, numbered lists, text colors, font size, mixed fonts, highlighting, and AI right now. Some of those things are not basic.

I just want a paragraph break vs having to hit return twice. Sort of like this forum supports. When I hit return, it puts some space between the two paragraphs.

In EV you have to hit return twice, so repurposing the content elsewhere (like in my word processor) means you usually have to delete all those extra/blank lines.

10 hours ago, gazumped said:

This isn't a request show - Evernote's new owners (who have been in charge for less than 1 year) have other priorities at the moment,  but might revisit this is they think it will help most users.  Personally I prefer a word processor for professional presentations,  since it can do far more styling than Evernote's editor is capable of.

It's not about using EN instead of a word processor, but taking notes in EN, then pasting them into a word processor without having to fix the line spacing on everything you paste in. 

I noticed that many of the Notebooks show up multiple times in the list, too.

When I move a note from one notebook to another, the list of notebooks seems totally random now. 

The list used to be alpha-numeric, so I could name a notebook 01 - Personal and it would show at the top, just before 02 - Author Work, then all the notebooks that begin with A, B, C, etc.

With 10.x the list seems random. It's not in order of recently used, either. some of the notebooks at the top haven't been touched in years.

BTW, all my stacks show up at the top of the list, but they are in random order, too.

If there's a setting, I'd love to know, but I think it's a bug.

And it's gone again with the 'legacy' version.

3 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

If you need specific layout capabilities, use a program adequate for this task. Probably Word or Pages should do. You can save the resulting file as an attachment in EN to organize it.

It's not really about layout, but about easily reusing the data that you put into EN.

I originally joined because an ad or promo showed someone writing a draft of a blog post, then pasting it in to the blog post editor (wordpress, probably).

You can do that, but if you write the draft in EN you probably have a blank line between each paragraph, just so you can see different paragraphs in EN. After pasting you have to manually remove all those blank lines.

Also, the data pasted in doesn't have a paragraph break, but a line break, so you have either paste in as text only and lose formatting or do more work to change the line breaks to paragraph breaks so the blog post is formatted correctly.

Compare this to text written in this forum, where hitting enter at the end of a line produces a paragraph break (with spacing between paragraphs) that can be copy/pasted to Wordpress, Word, etc. just fine.

I agree this might not be the best way to submit a feature request, so I hope everyone who wants this feature submits one through the official channels.

I have the latest version of EN, and whenever I open or even just select certain notes that have been created by the Chrome clipper, the CPU, Memory, and Power Usage immediately jumps. It never comes back down until I click into another note and close that note. Either one will leave it running down my battery and slowing down my computer with the uber-high cpu usage.

I've copied the content of the note to a fresh note, and that note also exhibits the behavior.

It doesn't happen with ALL clipped notes, but with most of them.

I've attached the portion of the log that shows the errors. It shows 'failed to open' and 'unable to open' even though the notes DO open and look fine, although CPU immediately shoots up and power usage (in Task Manager) goes to Very High in just 2-5 seconds.

Evernote_6.19.2.8555_20190725 edited.log

I guess I'll have to figure out the official support and submit the issues. My laptop just went 'red hot' because I failed to click into a text only note.

It's not EVERY clipped page, but lots of them do it, and it's almost instantaneous. The task manager power use goes from low to very high over about 15 seconds!

17 hours ago, jefito said:

I see no suspicious CPU spikes looking at the clipped versions of this page (I did the full article and the simplified article). Clicking on either of these gave a quick spike to 6-8% in one of the EvernoteSubprocess.exe's, after which it dropped back to negligible. Build is 6.19.2.8555 (308555) Public (CE Build ce-62.3.7750)

Thanks for trying it. I'll keep track and see if I see a pattern that can be replicated.

I'm on the same build as you, btw.

18 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

„It’s back ...“ leads to the question „what has changed ?“. In this thread was zero traffic since January and the release of 6.17. This does not speak for a continuing problem.

Did you update the EN client, Windows, something else etc. ?

I'm not sure what changed, when. The problem came back at least a week or two ago, but I couldn't figure out what the pattern was, and I didn't have time to look into it until yesterday.

It's possible (seeing the pattern that's causing it for me) that my issue never truly went away, but that the notes I was selecting weren't ones to cause the issue.

It's back.

Every few days I find my fan running full blast. I check Task Manager and find Evernote Subprocess taking up 19-29% of my cpu.

This morning I found that when I changed from my last selected note (created using Clip to Evernote) to a text only note I'd manually created that the CPU immediately drops, although 'power usage' remains high to very high for a little while.

I've tested this with a variety of notes, both text only and Clip. Not all Clip notes do this, but several of them do. It doesn't matter if they are open in a separate window or just clicked on in the side preview, the cpu immediately goes way up. If I don't click away, it will stay high for hours.

If you want to try to recreate this, the link below is the web page that I saved via the Clip to Evernote Chrome extension.

https://coschedule.com/blog/best-time-to-send-email/

I have to keep reminding myself to click to a text-only note when I'm done for now.

5 hours ago, pstock said:

6.17 fixed the problem for me. (Win 10)

On 1/12/2019 at 5:23 AM, Radiophile said:

Thanks for the heads up on the new version, tauAlphaC. I installed 6.17.4.8270 just now. For me at least, the problem is gone! 

Interesting that it doesn't list this issue in the release notes. 😕

So far it seems better for me.

On 12/15/2018 at 4:16 AM, Oart said:

It seems it indeed has to do with displaying a note. When I checked my version (6.16.4.8094 (308094) Public (CE Build ce-58.1.6897)) via Help>About and have that pop up open, CPU drops immediately. Close that pop up by clicking OK and have your note upfront again, CPU climbs again right away (for me up until 40% even).

 

Also have run my laptop for hours just in the hope it would have to do something with indexing, but after hours of high CPU I think I can conclude that's not the cause.

 

Now playing with displaying different notes, and indeed, displaying note containing e-mail text only also lowers CPU consumption.

Mine just did it with the only note open being text only. There was some bold, but otherwise plain text pasted in from a plain text document. I ended up having to kill the process that was eating up ~30% cpu using Task Manager before the fan would slow.

22 hours ago, dconnet said:

This is not surprising. We're a 32bit app.

Great. I wanted to be sure I hadn't installed the wrong version somehow.

BTW, just clicking the X to quit doesn't kill the subprocess. You have to File>Exit. Even then, the fan doesn't seem to return to normal until you launch  EN again.   ...unless that's just a coincidence, but I waited 5 minutes for the fan to stop after closing EN and force ending the process via task manager. The fan kept roaring, but as soon as I launched EN again, it immediately slowed, then stopped.

The EN Subprocess (32 bit) is nowhere to be seen yet since the relaunch.

On 12/7/2018 at 12:27 PM, Bart Bregman said:

I was at the edge of buying a new laptop.... ( hp spectre x360 1 year old..)

now I found out Evernote is the big problem, it uses 33% of my CPU, while it is running in the background...

It kills my laptop, makes it Super hot and the battery denigrates because of it...

Is there already a solution...???

 

Same! Same laptop even.

I keep having to kill the EN subprocess to make it stop. Strangely, it says (32 bit) when this is a 64 bit system.

If I kill the process and relaunch, it's fine for a while, but eventually, my laptop gets hot and the fan goes non-stop and full blast.

2 hours ago, CalS said:

Depending upon where you spend most of your time you can turn paragraph off in Word.

I agree a paragraph option would be nice, though I’m not sure what would happen with EN’s editor as it reconciled the different ways paragraphs get defined.  Exercise for the programmer I suppose.  

The paragraphs are there, EN just doesn't display them with an space between them. 

If I copy/paste into Word I get the paragraphs I want UNLESS I've added a blank line between them in EN.

In my mind, it stopped being a mere text editor when it got indents, bullets, bold, italic, etc. 

2 hours ago, DTLow said:

You have the option to use mostly any word processing editor for features like line spacing.  
The Evernote editor works well for basic notes; for word processing, Word/Pages are superior editors.

I use a word processing app every day.

The issue for ME is that I build my notes in Evernote over time, but when I want to take it to a word processing app, the paste into Word (or Wordpress) now has a blank line between every paragraph. I understand that I put the blank line there, but I did so because Evernote does not give me the option to display a larger line space between paragraphs, making it hard to read unless I hit 'enter' twice.

For me, it's simply a display issue in Evernote. I don't need a word processor, but I want it not to hamper things once I transfer to an actual word processor.

Even this very forum puts about a line space and a half between paragraphs. I don't have to hit enter twice to see when paragraphs change.

Evernote remembers now!

It seems trivial, but it's so much more pleasant to use now that windows maximized when you closed them, open still maximized.

Thanks!

Agreed! Often when a note gets really long and detailed it's hard to follow without a manual line break between paragraphs. When I later decide to paste it into a wordpress or a word processor, I have to go and delete all the extra lines.

This happens to me quite often, although sometimes undo DOES work. I haven't found a pattern yet.

It SEEMS to happen when I paste something in, but I'm not sure that's the only time yet.

Windows 10

EN 5.9.1.8742 (276742) Public

If this is on by default, then that should be changed.

With so many features in Tools on the desktop versions, why hide this in online preferences? Why would anyone go there? They would think all the preferences are in Tools on the Desktop UI.

I'm sure some people would love auto tags, but not auto filing. I would, but I want to be able to find all emailed in notes in one place so I can sort them later.

1. Change the default preference setting if it now defaults to 'checked.'

2. Add the online preferences to the Tools section of the desktop version. At the very least, put a note in there with a link to the online preferences so people know there are other settings not showing up.

3. Split the feature into two features; auto tag? auto file?

Thank you for listening!

Roland