QuackGoesThePenguin

Recently, I have upgraded to version 10.0.10 1838 Public.

I cannot easily create new notebooks by right clicking or even create stacks with multiple notebooks any longer.  I've been using Evernote for years with a paid subscription and this has caused issues with the way I work, now.

For a new notebook, I can go File -> new notebook, or use the keyboard shortcut.  But cannot even create a new stack by dragging and dropping one notebook onto another.  

While the new version is nice, it would be nice to bring back the right click menu.  Also, how do we create stacks with this newer version?  I am not interested in any work-arounds for something "like stacks".  This was a big reason I chose evernote, the ability to nest notes inside notebooks organized in stacks.

TIA!

On August 14, 2016 at 9:46 PM, GrumpyMonkey said:

 

12 hours ago, DTLow said:

What an intelligent comment

Ditto.....

Maybe instead of cutting features to current users, demanding a paid membership; they should just add better features to entice people to want to buy it? Then people would buy a paid subscription and not look to phase the product out.

Even if someone from Evernote would acknowledge one of the largest threads on their forums????  However, they are crazy if they think cutting features by limiting devices is not going to do anything but shun negotiation savvy (who don't give money away) consumers away from their company.

I do thank Evernote for letting me use two machines to get all docs off while I deploy something cross-platform. However demanding my credit card by decreasing features was the nail in the coffin of Evernote for me. Newer enhanced features and probably would have been interested. But not demanding payment by restricting. This company seems a little backwards to me.

Far as "not enough Linux users". Linux users are usually people who are tech savvy and NEED to keep notes. I'm an I.T. professional and NEED notes. But being an I.T. professional I understand the benefits of using Linux as my primary workstation.

Sure there are 100 million Windows users for every single Linux user. But how many out of that one million have needs for a paid subscription to Evernote?  Linux users: professional I.T. people who are more computer scientists. As well students taking Computer Science. So... the majority of Linux users could use a paid subscription to Evernote. I'd love to incorporate Evernote into my I.T. process and share documented procedures with Sals and Customer Service people. But at work I use Linux as my primary desktop, running a VM for Windows administration.

So my money is better spent on other solutions. I've slowly been phasing Evernote out of my needs, and working with other solutions. Mainly native Linux apps that can export to OneNote. :-)

I've been around here a long time and have a decent feel for how Evernote have made decisions in the past. They've also been really explicit on this subject.

 

Whinging because they won't support your niche OS, claiming some sort of discrimination or some universal right just makes me laugh. 

Having the time to make over 5000 posts on Evernote forums only proves you have too much time on your hands. Aside from putting words in my mouth (or posts), the only problem I have is justifications for your opinion. In case you didn't realize, it stinks.

Please go to your Winblows, and let us upper-echolon users/developers discuss our operating system of choice. There is no way to block you, and you're stinking (I mean littering) this topic with opinion.

You use Windows! Why are you opinionating amongst us, who are trying to discuss Evernote in Linux? We have heard your opinion. Now kindly go help some Grandma log into their Evernote. Thank you, and happy Windowing and opinionating. LMAO

FYI: Linux users don't like reading irrelavent posts and opinion. Most of us are developers, sys admins, consultants, etc.... You are wasting our time with dumb replies based on opinion. Go increase your post-count helping someone.

Business decision or poor planning. I love how random interwebz people come in here and talk like an Evernote ceo.

Computer + opinion, means knowledgeable these days. Give someone mod status because they have nothing better to do with their time and they they're a god. Fluffy computing is going to people's ego. Lmao

 

I think they've been pretty clear in the past that they are not going to build a native Linux client. So you have a number of options, Wine, the web or just find something else.

Not quite sure why people find this so difficult

 

See upthread as to why this is difficult. Good luck if you can get it working. You may need more luck to keep it working. It is not a stable deployable solution hence not really a revenue opportunity for Evernote. Same for NixNote 2.

 

The WINE problem is the current EV solution appears to need more than a bog standard Windows API. It isn't designed to be OS agnostic so I guess EV are stuck without an expensive rewrite that won't do anything but possible regress their main market. That's why they say no. Though adopting NixNote/Java and sorting it into a distributable version using current libraries may be an alternative inexpensive solution. They could keep it third party to mitigate the ongoing support costs. Not perfect but it would at least keep the Penguinistas quiet. That must be worth something!

 

Or they can hire me. I could do it, but will not write my own software and pay a fee to use it. LMAO

Obviously, asking for a native Linux client in QT or something is never gonna happen.

However, there are two options:

1 - hire experienced developers and design around WINE compatibility.

2 - use a Java base - and tweak for each platform: Linux, mac, and that other o/s

Obviously, asking for a native Linux client in QT or something is never gonna happen.

However, there are two options:

1 - hire experienced developers and design around WINE compatibility.

2 - use a Java base - and tweak for each platform: Linux, mac, and that other o/s

 

You don't feel entitled to demand software is made for the operating sytem in use, before paying any money?  Do you demand bags fit your vacuum? Or just buy anything people sell you?

 

Try marching into Wal-Mart and demanding that they sell you a car. If you are lucky, you will only get laughed at.

 

But since you think that sort of thing is ok, maybe I should demand that you write an EverNote replacement that will run on Linux. See how well that works?

 

If somebody *does* write an EverNote replacement that is suitably cross-platform, I may well buy it -- and drop my premium subscription to EverNote, even though the cost only amounts to a flea-bite. But jumping up and down and pitching a fit because EverNote doesn't see fit to do it is unlikely to accomplish much -- except getting yourself laughed at.

 

What are you talking about, crazy Duck Man? Your analogy is far off kilter, I cannot help but to think you're stoned.

Let's put this in perspective: I go to the local car dealer and all they have are snowmobiles. I tell them, "I would buy one if I could commute to work on it. But we live in Arizona and it never snows here, they are not even capable of driving on the freeway. If you ever get a nice sports car, or SUV I might do business with you".

See the difference between right field, left field, and even being close to the ballpark?

I'd love to see Evernote for Linux.

 

However, I don't feel entitled to demand that Evernote produce something they consider to be uneconomical, or don't think they have the resources to accomplish. That's up to the market. Evernote is a great product, even if the Linux access is limited to a browser, but if any of you folks would like to do one better, let me know. If there is ever something comparable for Linux that is cross-platform (so I can use it from my Android, my iMac, and my Windoze systems), I will sign up for that in a heartbeat (assuming there is some way to migrate my current database), and quit paying for Evernote. Until then, I'll just use Evernote.

You don't feel entitled to demand software is made for the operating sytem in use, before paying any money?  Do you demand bags fit your vacuum? Or just buy anything people sell you?

 

 

We all make choices, and choices have consequences. You choose the set of consequences based on the choices you make OR you choose the consequences and that makes decides your choice.

Remember the day when you wanted to play Mario Bros., but your parents would only let you have a Sega Genesis?

Not everything in life should be free or available to everyone. I don't know where people came up with that idea. Sure it might be nice if you were a have-not and graduated to a have, but life isn't like that.

These are just general statements and not direct toward anyone in particular.

As for feeling slighted, I know how Linux users feel about not having access to certain software. That's how I came across this thread-looking for e-note for Linux.

I feel the same way about Disney's decision to trash the StarWars expanded universe. Choices-Consequences.

So you're saying that if people want something they should just shut up beacuse life isn't fair? Great attitude!

Btw; cool nick....

+1 Linux version

+1 Redo the osx client to be more like the windows version

Obviously people don't understand supply and demand. While at the original time Evernote may have felt there wasn't demand, but it's our work to change that.

Anyone who thinks it's final should look at companies that don't adapt. I mean Microsoft is considering going open source and porting .net to Linux. There is demand for .net on Linux.

A quiet voice is no voice...

 

I could not agree more. I know M.S. has yet to port Onenote to Linux, but Office is marketed to create a need for Windows. Even porting office to a Mac does that; lets a designer share proofs documents with customer service and bean counters on Wndows.

However, the most simialr product (marketing wise), Microsoft has is Skype. Yep... they continiue to devleop Skype for Linux:

ap-get install skype. What about another product that is close to Everneote in terms of revenue and user-base? Dropbox: apt-get install dropbox.

C'mon evernote: if Keepnote ever goes in the cloud and establishes a good app for OSX and Windows with a good wizard to transfer my Evernote notebooks, you guys will lose out. I pay for both Skype and DropBox, but only use free. If there were a Linux evernote client AND better tools for code snippets in Evernote I'd sign up for a paid account ASAP.

Give us something to pay a premium for and we'll signup for premium serives....

@QuackGoesThePenguin can I please ask you take your moderator issue to PM or a new thread?

 

You are disrupting an important discussion on persuading Evernote to commission a Linux Client. That is the important bit. Whether the moderator is a white knight or Evernote stooge doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters to me (and I suspect other contributors here) is that Evernote reconsiders its decision. And does it for its own benefit as well as ours. We are all frustrated but letting that frustration rip isn't going to help.

 

Peace please.

An off-topic comment asking to stay on topic? The irony.  Mods are not white-nights, they are people not gods.

 

I have been pretty pleased with the Evernote Chrome App on Linux. It uses my Mate theme, can launch from my Dock, etc... As far as usability, it is just as good going to Evernote.com with Chrome. However, Chrome's JS engine seems to be pretty good and retains every function I need. I have not come across anything that doesn't work as good as the Evernote App in Win or OS X.

 

All the Evernote App in Win and OS X does is uses Trident or Apple's rendition of WebKit. Chrome uses Chromium, Google's rendition of WebKit. I don't see what it does not now offer that the Chrome app does offer. The only difference between using Evernote App in OS X or MS is it retains Window decorations of the OS without convoluted stuff provided by Safari or I.E. 

 

Perhaps this why they have not released a Linux version. Since the Chrome App already does what a dedicated Linux App would do. As Linux has no native underlying HTML or JavaScript rendering engine with acceptation  of WebKit. But Chromium (Chrome's rendering engine) is far more advanced than a vanilla install of WebKit.

 

 

 

What exactly do you mean with "the Evernote App"? The web app or the just released native ChromeOS app (ported from Android)?

 

I mean a Chrome App. Google Chrome has "Apps" that run off Chromium. They are developed in NodeJS and use Chrome's NodeJS Engine. There are VNC clients, RDP clients, etc....

Very similar in concept to ChromeOS. Practically the same as Chrome OS uses Chromium as a NodeJS engine as well. Its trivial to port a CromeOS App to run off Chromium in any operating system. If in doubt look at the screenshot. Every App for Evernote just uses HTTP and HTML with the operating systems native rendering engine. They just use a library in Xcode or Visual Studio.

Just download Chrome and go to the Chrome App Store. Search for Evernote... Then it will appear in Chrome's Apps. You right click and add a shortcut to your dock etc..

 

No offense, but I find it funny a person uses a note taking application doesn't know the meaning of the word affiliated. Affiliated doesn't mean employed. Might want to make a note of that. ;-)

I really don't think this was any of your business anyway. You were either trying to defend a girl by being a night in shining armor. Are a total dill-wad. Or trying to start a flame war with me.

Please explain the relevancy of your post? If you don't like my comment, I don't care. You're not the Internet avenger, and cannot make the Internet to your liking.

No offense, but I find it sad that someone doesn't know how to use a dictionary and/or fully comprehend the meaning of a word.  "Affiliated" is a useful word b/c one does not need to be EMPLOYED by a company in order to get some sort of benefit by promoting a company. I would suggest you make a note of that. It may come in handy someday.

 

https://www.godaddy.com/affiliates/affiliate-program.aspx

 

As to your other comments, it appears you are the one wanting a flame war.  Please abide by the forum code of conduct & refrain from name calling/flaming.  Thank you.

 

https://discussion.evernote.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

 

Affiliated DOES NOT mean employed.

It's nice to know I'm getting personally attacked by moderators. This is a direct reflection of Evernote in my opinion. Being a moderator of the forums, you are unprofessional that my company will be canceling their subscription to Evernote. You have lost the company about $150 per month.

I will not do business with a company that is AFFILIATED (being on a mod the forums you are DIRECTLY OFFICIALLY CONNECTED). You are just dumb enough to be officially a MODERATOR w/o being compensated.

Further more, your comments and the guy's are just as out of bounds. What was the saying, practice what we preach. You might was well ban me from the these forums. As I don't think I'll be using Evernote anymore. Neither will anybody in the I.T. Department where I work. We will most likely be switching to a solution that offers more professional service in public forums.

BTW - That's GoDaddy, a web hosting company, not a dictionary; here's a little help:

 

 

 

Both Everpad and Nixnote (Nevernote) suck! In addition, Evernote native client sucks under wine. After trying these, I use Evernote's slow web client (website). There is a HUGE community of Linux users, many of them using Evernote (some of them like me, on a daily basis). I really think Evernote should respect all of its users. It's a democratic world, not an authoritrian one where you dictate your users which OS they should use.

We really want it dear Evernote!

Evernote certainly does respect their users. Just because they don't do something you want them to do doesn't mean they are disrespecting you. A company is not a democracy. Those in charge have to make choices & they have chosen to not make a Linux client. And lastly, they are not dictating (or even trying to dictate) what OS you use.

 

No offense, but I find it funny you spend more time defending Evernote than answering OP's original question. You hate penguins! Admit it! After all, you are not affiliated with Evernote? Right?

 

No offense, but I find it funny that the person BnF was responding to (Metallica) did not pose any question at all; they just made the laughable assertions that Evernote doesn't "respect" Linux users, and that the fact they don't make a native Linux client somehow makes the world less democratic and more authoritarian.

Or if you're talking about the OP who actually started the topic, their question has been amply answered.

BTW, the moderators are not Evernote employees. That has nothing to do with how we feel about penguins.

 

No offense, but I find it funny a person uses a note taking application doesn't know the meaning of the word affiliated. Affiliated doesn't mean employed. Might want to make a note of that. ;-)

I really don't think this was any of your business anyway. You were either trying to defend a girl by being a night in shining armor. Are a total dill-wad. Or trying to start a flame war with me.

Please explain the relevancy of your post? If you don't like my comment, I don't care. You're not the Internet avenger, and cannot make the Internet to your liking.

I have been pretty pleased with the Evernote Chrome App on Linux. It uses my Mate theme, can launch from my Dock, etc... As far as usability, it is just as good going to Evernote.com with Chrome. However, Chrome's JS engine seems to be pretty good and retains every function I need. I have not come across anything that doesn't work as good as the Evernote App in Win or OS X.

All the Evernote App in Win and OS X does is uses Trident or Apple's rendition of WebKit. Chrome uses Chromium, Google's rendition of WebKit. I don't see what it does not now offer that the Chrome app does offer. The only difference between using Evernote App in OS X or MS is it retains Window decorations of the OS without convoluted stuff provided by Safari or I.E. 

Perhaps this why they have not released a Linux version. Since the Chrome App already does what a dedicated Linux App would do. As Linux has no native underlying HTML or JavaScript rendering engine with acceptation  of WebKit. But Chromium (Chrome's rendering engine) is far more advanced than a vanilla install of WebKit.

 

Both Everpad and Nixnote (Nevernote) suck! In addition, Evernote native client sucks under wine. After trying these, I use Evernote's slow web client (website). There is a HUGE community of Linux users, many of them using Evernote (some of them like me, on a daily basis). I really think Evernote should respect all of its users. It's a democratic world, not an authoritrian one where you dictate your users which OS they should use.

We really want it dear Evernote!

Evernote certainly does respect their users. Just because they don't do something you want them to do doesn't mean they are disrespecting you. A company is not a democracy. Those in charge have to make choices & they have chosen to not make a Linux client. And lastly, they are not dictating (or even trying to dictate) what OS you use.

 

No offense, but I find it funny you spend more time defending Evernote than answering OP's original question. You hate penguins! Admit it! After all, you are not affiliated with Evernote? Right?