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13 hours ago, dudeman313 said:

Hello,

First of all, thank you for continually improving this app. Last year I reviewed the app and didn’t give it such a great review. However, I just updated my review and gave it five stars as it really has become more reliable and is constantly improved. 

Just reporting some issues with the latest update. 

1) Tabs are cut off at the bottom of iPhone X. See attached photo. 

2) The app becomes unresponsive when selecting a notebook and tapping the Edit button. See attached photo.

3) I have a kind of large .zip file (about 70mb) that doesn’t open when attempting to decrypt using the private link from Evernote.  It says “Loading note...” for a while and eventually just goes back to Evernote. However, decryption within Saferoom app works fine.

Issue persists with multiple notes that have large file sizes.

I understand that there may be some limitations of the Saferoom extension for file size imposed by iOS. Is it possible for it to simply open the note in Saferoom app. So just create a link that will open Saferoom app if file size is too large when opening from Evernote?

 

Hi, @dudeman313,

I am already fixing iPhone X layout issues. Will be ready next week (+ 1-2 days for Apple approval).

About zip files and extension - yes, there is a limitation by Apple. But Saferoom's fault is the user experience, so we will fix it. And thanks for the tip about the link to Saferoom when the file is big, I think we will do exactly like that. The only thing is that I wonder is Evernote API reveals the file size before the download...

Anyways, thanks a lot for your feedback, we are super happy!

Cheers,

Ilia

Hey, 

After some quiet period we are back with some new things. We did some thinking about Saferoom's future because it was not clear where to move from today. When you are small, you need to focus, and this was an important break for us to recap our thoughts. Anyway, we are back into swing of things and here are some recent updates:

• New Windows app is almost finished (I will start publishing new videos). This will be a final Windows version including free version (with folders and off-line notebooks) (cc @dantonic). Windows version will also support separate files encryption.
• Update is coming to iOS platform with a bit different UI - the first screen now becomes a list of notebooks and we will use tabs. We will check user feedback and implement the same change to Android.
• macOS 2.0 version will be released in January-beginning of February for beta testing (I will create a signup form in first weeks).

And one more thing - for business we are advancing towards a new technology that allows us to control encrypted content access permissions. This will allow to create encrypted notes with access per user. Check out the video below:

On 7/8/2017 at 11:08 AM, dantonic said:

Ilia, is there a way in the new windows app to encrypt local notes and transfer to a regular notebook?

My use case with the previous version of saferoom was the following:

I scan my sensitive documents and they get automatically saved in a local scans folder.
I then use the tray app to encrypt and it creates encrypted copies to a regular notebook which is then synced to my evernote account.

Though that is a little clunky what I liked about it is that the only notes that get synced are encrypted ones.  How would I achieve something similar with this new app?

Also another question,  once I encrypt a note there doesn't seem to be a way to decrypt it permanently, in a way that I could view it decrypted from the evernote app.

The app does tend to crash a lot and just close.  

Hi, @dantonic,

TL:DR; It is Microsoft's fault :).

Long story: When we started building Saferoom for Desktop (the one in Microsoft Store), we were using relevant development technologies that Microsoft provided developer to transition to Microsoft Store (e.g. Windows 8 and 8.1) . Microsoft Apps that are part of Microsoft Store should be written using special IDE, there is no backward compatibility with previous IDE (it is crazy). But ok, we've knew that and we have finished the app. And once we started to integrate Saferoom Mini (the free version), Microsoft had changed everything - and introduced Universal Apps IDE with Windows 10. And guess what - no backward compatibility. Now all apps that there were written for MS Windows 8 and 8.1 are stuck with unmaintained modules and libraries which were not automatically transitioned to new platform. For example, we want to read a stream from a file (you do it when the file is too big) to decrypt it - sometimes we receive the stream, sometimes we don't. No one knows why, this library is abandoned. 

Now Saferoom 8.1 will have lots of bugs that we are solving but some of them are just random behaviour. We are rewriting it now for MS Windows 10, it will take time unfortunately. 

I clearly understand that this is not a user problem, I can only pledge for some patience. We had to pause macOS and Corporate versions of Saferoom to solve Windows issue. Your use case will be part of it.

>Also another question,  once I encrypt a note there doesn't seem to be a way to decrypt it permanently, in a way that I could view it decrypted from the evernote app.

I will check it separately, maybe we can fix it quickly.

Again, our apologies.

Cheers,

Ilia

On 5/29/2017 at 8:58 AM, dantonic said:

I noticed the new windows version requires logging in with the evernote credentials.  I don't think previous versions needed this?  Just curious what is the difference?  Are there any risks involved?

Thank you.

Hi, @dantonic,

We are aligning desktop experience with mobile one. We've received lots of feedback about the inconsistency and a lack of friendliness of desktop version. Hence, we are now developing more advanced desktop apps with similar experience to mobile apps. It also means that now you are working through Saferoom with your Evernote cloud account using  the same principles as in mobile. No additional risks involved. 

Previous notebook-based version is still available called Saferoom Mini. Honestly, I have not yet figured out how to integrate this Mini version into a new one from UX point of view.

Mac update is in development process; we had to rewrite some Evernote SDK modules as they don't have API for Mac.

@deroo, thanks a lot! If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. 

@Karlot, is this the experience you are looking for?

On 4/15/2017 at 0:53 AM, Fray Dends said:

Hi, love the product idea. Just wondering - with local notebooks (eg. encrypt/decrypt inbox) on the Mac desktop app, the sync icon spins for quite a while whenever a local notebook is changed (eg. delete a note from the decrypt_inbox). Is it definitely not sending something to the Evernote server? If not, why does the sync animation spin for so long? I don't have the technical knowledge to investigate this but I wonder if someone can shed light on why a local notebook even fires off a sync animation? It doesn't even seem to make sense to trigger a sync icon animation ever for local notebook operations?

Hello, Fray,

Saferoom macOS doesn't work with any server. In macOS system when you develop an app you need to select which capabilities you want to be allowed as each app is in a sandbox. It means that if I want Saferoom macOS to work with any external server I need to enable incoming connections so that macOS will allow our app to send a request to outside server. 

Saferoom macOS has everything disabled except 1 option - it can send and receive data only from Evernote app. It means our app is fully sandbox, it cannot make any connections to any outside servers, it cannot connect to any app except Evernote.

The spinning animation is just an animation we start when some activity begins it's cycle. I think it is spinning in your case because of some bug, it is just stuck in infinite loop. I just tried different activities with my local decrypt notebook and spinner is not appearing. 

Can you please send us an email so I can investigate? I would need some details.

Thanks,

Ilia

Hello,

We've just released a new version for Windows:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/saferoom-for-windows-81/9nblggh40cdw#

Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Also some users reported issues with decryption via Saferoom macOS on Sierra. There is a bug (recognised by Apple), and you need to upgrade to the latest 10.12.4 version of Sierra.

Thanks,

Ilia

Hey,

We've just opened a sign up for Saferoom Windows Beta testing on our website -  http://getsaferoom.com.

Unfortunately, Microsoft is not particularly user-friendly when it comes to Beta testing, hence, there are two conditions:

• Only Windows 10 users can participate in Beta
• You need to specify your Microsoft Account email so we can generate a Microsoft Store Link for you

Please sign-up if you want to play with Saferoom v2.0 Beta which will work similarly to Mobile Apps. We would be extremely happy to hear to feedback as always.

Cheers,

Ilia

On 12/23/2016 at 8:33 PM, eric99 said:

That's good news that you have an open source app, thanks for that.

I'm still wondering what happens with my encrypted notes when exporting a notebook to HTML format? If it stays encrypted, how can I decrypt it in my browser?

 

Hmm...A good question - I will test that in coming days.

On 12/21/2016 at 8:29 AM, dudeman313 said:

Hi, 

I have really been appreciating Saferoom for iOS.

Will the ability to decrypt short video clips be added soon? I have a few video clips within notes that I cannot view on iOS. 

It would be awesome to be able to tap on the video and "Open In" another app to play it.

Hi, @dudeman313, 

It sounds like a bug. Can you tell me the video clip file size and extension?

On 12/19/2016 at 8:19 PM, eric99 said:

Is there an option to encrypt the whole note in a standard encrypted pdf file format? I don't want lock-in by a proprietary encryption format.

Hi, @eric99,

Right now there is no such possibility. Our library works with AES-256 format which is a standard nowadays. I understand your concern about our proprietary encryption format, but we don't have. We use standard available AES-256 means provided by macOS, iOS, Android, Windows libraries. We just created a very stable multi-platform realisation of this library, but we had not built any proprietary encryption format. To protect our users we have added some enhancements to standard libraries increasing key size, putting minimal limit on the encryption key, etc.

We also have an open-source app for Linux where anyone can easily build a client to our encryption format.

https://github.com/saferoom-app/saferoomlinux

Having said above, we are not discarding the usage of different encryption techniques (asymmetric, PGP). In fact, I agree that our users would appreciate that. For now we have an important milestone to reach - update our desktop apps. After we will update our library to allow only file encryption (so you can encrypt only attachments, leaving original note's text as it is) and during this exercise we will take a look at other encryption algorithms.

5 hours ago, dantonic said:

Hi guys,

Just wondering when do you expect to roll out the next version for windows?  It's been a few months since you showed the youtube video of it.

 

Almost ready. Waiting for beta certifications in Microsoft Windows Store. It usually takes 2-4 days. 

On 12/12/2016 at 3:24 PM, Wetbear said:

I'm using Mac Desktop version 1.8.  When I de-crypt any evernote notes that contain tables, any images that are within tables will be removed from the tables.  The table size and text data is retained, only the images will get removed and then be placed at the end of the de-crypted note.     Is this a bug ?  Is there a chance this will be corrected in the 2.0 version?  

Thanks

Tim

Hi, Tim,

This is a small bug in Evernote macOS app during note import. We already notified Evernote on stack overflow. I don't know when they will fix it.

I am building macOS app now, and I want to finish it by middle of January to run beta testing. The new app will follow the same UX as the mobile so you will see all your notes inside Saferoom macOS and decrypt them as you would in iOS or Android. 

I understand that we promised updates to desktop apps for a long time, and we are doing what we can to finish them. I hope new Saferoom Windows app will go to beta next week.

Thanks,

Ilia

On 10/19/2016 at 8:36 PM, dudeman313 said:

Both files about 44MB

I am trying to solve this. iOS block CPU and memory consuming operations and downloading big file "hangs" Share extension. I will try to find a workaround (maybe, for big notes give an option to open them directly in Saferoom App).

On 11/20/2016 at 5:03 PM, Jestre said:

I really like the workflow of the Linux version, so I may just install that version on my Mac and give it a try, but as for the regular MacOS version, how does one do the one-time (shared) password function?  I have the Lock/Unlock, but don't see a one-time function I swear I saw mentioned elsewhere.

Also, after the first encryption pass, I noticed that part of the word "Encrypt" appeared on that button over the lock, but the same does not appear on the Un-lock button.  Perhaps an artifact of a prior version?

Thanks,

S

The shared password works by toggling the Keyboard button. 

I will check this Encrypt title stuff, it is an artefact indeed. And go ahead with Linux version, Saferoom Pro for Mac is a bit delayed due to lack of Evernote SDK for Mac, we have to modify iOS part.

Also Linux version will feature CLI interface for file encryption soon, we've just finished testing. It means you use command line to encrypt files to notebooks using command line (thus giving the possibility to write scripts to Saferoom).

On 10/18/2016 at 0:35 AM, dudeman313 said:

Hi,

Thanks so much for the iWork file update! That's a huge help. 

Saferoom has really given me peace of mind with my data. 

If I may offer some feedback... I have a few files with MP3 or .MOV attachments within notes. When I try to open these notes from Evernote using the share feature on iOS to decrypt in Saferoom it does not open. However, when I open directly in Saferoom they seem to work just fine. I don't know if the issue occurs because of the file type or file size.

Which brings me to my feature request... an easier way to find notes in Saferoom. For starters I think a sort feature would be great where I can view notes either alphabetically by note title or chronologically. 

A search would be nice too. 

But if the share private link to Saferoom feature worked flawlessly, I could simply use the sort and search within Evernote app.

 

thanks again

Hi, @dudeman313,

I am so happy that we could help you! 

Can you please tell me the size of those files? Probably, there is an issue with the size (files that are too big are blocked by Apple iOS in the Share Extension). I will run some experiments and come back with a solution.

Yes, easier notes search is on my list, absolutely agree. 

Thanks a lot, and please don't hesitate to share your feedback.

Cheers,

Ilia

11 hours ago, dudeman313 said:

Hi,

I recently encrypted all my notes using Saferoom in response to the move to Google Cloud Platform for Evernote's backend. However, I find that Saferoom on iOS cannot decrypt my keynote files properly and also that Saferoom on iOS crashes a lot when decrypting. Any tips or software updates that will make Saferoom more reliable. It seems like, there is a lot of talk about adding more functionality to Saferoom... but what about making Saferoom work flawlessly on current platforms?

Hello, @dudeman313,

Agree with your annoyance with Saferoom bugs. Actually, I just finished fixing them during this weekend. We saw those exceptions in our systems (iOS) during decryption and we've just finished fixing them. Keynote (and actually iWork docs) were not yet supported by Saferoom till today, and after your feedback I've added them into supported file list. 

I will do some checks on Monday on other devices to make sure it works, and deploy an update during next week.

Thank you very much for your feedback, and please send us any doubts and problems you have. You can always sent us any message to support@getsaferoom.com or to me via PM here.

Cheers,

Ilia

On 10/7/2016 at 0:31 AM, virtualbartek said:

Hi,

I downloaded the mac app but am being asked to set a master password in Keychain. How can I bypass Keychain. I have no trust in my keychain as my computer user account can access this info. That makes the master password only as secure as my computer user password. The way I do things is that I make it easy to get in to my computer cause that makes things easy for me, but anything sensitive is encrypted locally. 

 

Thanks

Hey, @virtualbartek,

Thanks a lot for the question. I never thought that a user might actually want to skip keychain password creation. I will update the UI in the next release to have a skip button. 

In your case you can create a dummy password in the keychain - something like "testtest". And then use Manual password entry button each time during encryption/decryption. That way you will need to enter the password for every operation manually, and it will not be stored anywhere in the system. But make sure you remember it.

Do you extra help to show you how to use Manual entry?

Cheers,

Ilia

P.S. I can't still make support of 1Password or LastPass on Mac, but I will be working in that direction.

Hey,

A small update - we've just released Saferoom Linux that features open-source code, and also supports Evernote and OneNote. There are some tricky things to do to set it up, but we believe it is a good way forward. Also for advanced users - it is not limited to Linux, it runs as a web app, so you can deploy it on other systems.

https://github.com/saferoom-app/saferoomlinux

Here are some videos:

Creating a note:

1 hour ago, OMNIZEN said:

Thanks for clarifying. I guess for me it's about convenience of use. I have stuff I like to keep secure but I'm not holding any security national secrets. Nor would I care to much if someone saw my notes. But the idea of encrypting an entire group of notes / or even notebook and have it easily encrypt / decrypt easily is what I'm looking for. 

 

 

Thanks for a great question. I understand your point of view (and that of many users), and step-by-step working and investigating different things we will get to the point where encryption will become a standard function like Copy/Paste. The idea to constantly work towards it, and this is what we are trying to do.

On 2 September 2016 at 5:28 PM, OMNIZEN said:

Can someone answer me this question about saferoom. Why is it that, if you change the password (for security purposes) that the note will only remember that one password and not a new updated password? Seems to be a HUGE issue in the event that you scrap or change passwords often

Hey, @OMNIZEN,

This is how math works, and we can't really do anything here without putting user data under serious risk. Let me explain in simplified manner - encryption is a math operation. Like any math operation it requires some input parameters (a key and some other stuff) to produce a result - a cipher. Then decryption is reverse math operation of encryption, so it requires the same input parameters to produce the result - the original text or data. And as math operations it produces the result instantaneously - and input parameters become integral part of the produced result.

If you change input parameters (change your password), then the result won't be the same anymore. So previous ciphers (encrypted notes) won't produce the original data after you put different parameters. This is how in most of the cases symmetric encryption works  - the key is integral part of a cipher. 

Now, the workaround in Saferoom during a change of your password would be the re-encryption of all your previous notes. It is a bit of hassle, but once we solve a problem how to encrypt a massive amount of notes (>100) at one operation, then re-encryption would not be a problem on the desktop. 

The other solution is to use asymmetric encryption - I honestly like it very much, but then somebody should provide digital certificates and PKI infra should be in place. 

I hope it clarifies, and thank you for the question. Comment if something is not clear, I would glad to help.

@Sayre Ambrosio, I will take a look at it. 

A small update as a reminder - For better security Saferoom supports 1Password app which you can use to encrypt/decrypt your notes for better password security. One exception is macOS - we still could not figure out how to do it there. It will come eventually.

Here are the examples:

Saferoom Android and 1Password - through 1Password keyboard:

https://support.1password.com/android-keyboard/

Saferoom Windows:

Saferoom iOS

@Sayre Ambrosio, I tested it on iOS 10, it was working fine. However, iOS Betas sometime behave strangely around keychain topics and memory allocation (for Share extension), so not much guarantees.

I can include you into Beta testers list, and you will get the latest version of Saferoom. Then you can play with our app on iOS 10.

Cheers,

Ilia

Hi, community,

We've been a bit passive on communications for couple of months, but now I wanted to update everyone with some cool stuff that we've been doing.

1. Support of OneNote in Saferoom. Now you can attach OneNote account and encrypt/decrypt notes between OneNote and Evernote - example from iOS (release of mobile apps - end of August):

2. Saferoom Word  - an important step in our encryption library, and a neat addition to MS Office folks. It is still a standalone add-in (no support for Word inside Saferoom App), but we are working on it. This add-in will work only in MS Word, not supported inside Saferoom Apps ecosystem yet. 

3. Saferoom Linux - it is a completely different approach, and it will be open source . There is one limitation - you need a developer key and you will need to request it from Evernote. Right now there is no way to hide our dev key, so we had to make a choice. We have an idea how to solve this in future, but it will take time: 

4. First video of Saferoom Windows Pro beta - this one was tough. Due to Windows 10 release we had to throw out almost 6 months of work - Microsoft changed everything and we had to rewrite it from scratch. As you can see it is not yet aesthetically nice, and with strange colours, but the flow is there. This is our priority number 1 now.

5. Saferoom Android Updates - we've done a major enhancements to Saferoom Android:

There is one thing left - the support for encrypting existing notes, it will come at the end of September for all mobile apps. We just could not fit it correctly to the current release. 

Cheers,

Ilia

P.S. We are now also available in France App Store and Google Play.

Hello, @Dubhead,

On iOS you can already use Passcode/TouchID to encrypt/decrypt your notes instead of entering the master password. Go to Settings and enable "App Access Control". 

I will check Android part separately. 

Cheers,

Ilia

Hola, @ArmyMan,

Thanks for your feedback, Desktop app is becoming a burning question. 

When we were building Desktop app, we decided to use the following guidelines:

• It should work offline
• it should work without asking Evernote account 
• it should be simple.
• it should not connect to any servers at all

The most important criteria was simplicity. At that time the design was a good match - when you need to encrypt 2-3% of your notes, using notebooks like a inbox/outbox is a good choice with above conditions (Saferoom macOS works in sealed sandbox with access to only Evernote app, nothing else at all). And as you correctly mentioned - this simplicity breaks user workflow when you run daily encrypt/decrypt operations with big number of notes. I absolutely agree with that and we are building more sophisticated version of Saferoom Desktop for Windows and macOS. We are 80% ready on Windows to start Beta, and approximately 50% ready in macOS. 

Bottom line: I agree with you (and with many others) about Desktop, we are working on that as fast as we physically can. We can only ask for a little bit more patience.

I hope this clarifies a bit, and thanks again for your message.

Cheers,

Ilia

On 7 July 2016 at 2:04 PM, dwsundin said:

Gentlemen, is there any update to the development of a native Linux app?  I know that the installed base isn't as big as Windows or Apple, but I would imagine that there's a higher percentage of your target market within the Linux community than the others, too.  Still waiting....

Hey, 

Well, there is not much of an update - as I already mentioned we need to rebuild our encryption library using C and write a client in C also to protect Evernote Dev key. We thought using Python, but then we did not find a way to protect the key.

Right now, I am waiting for Apple Swift release, to check if we can run it on some Linux distributions - this way we don't need to rewrite anything.

Linux is on our list, but it is not the first one in the priority. First we need to solve speed issues in mobile, release Saferoom macOS and Windows 2.0 apps, and then we can switch to Linux app.

Cheers,

Ilia