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  1. Still no import folders? Ugh. So I guess I can forget about the two features I asked about (which were more hope than any real possibility). What has been ported over in the last few months? When I was last here, it seemed like EN wanted to try to bring over many of the features that were dropped in the move to v10.
  2. Received an email from EN suggesting I update the app (I'm on Legacy). Usually I ignore such emails, but I noticed this bit "enjoy reintroduced features from our legacy apps". Forgive me, but I'm a bit out of date as I haven't been on the forum in a few months, but what features have they recently ported over to v10? I assume local notebooks and local file links are not among the recently ported features?
  3. Yes, my use of APIs is mostly in Google Sheets (via GAS). And you'll be shocked to know that sometimes the API's change, breaking the scripts that use them. Nothing is forever, not even green elephants and their APIs. "Glee" is the wrong term. We have differing views on the sanctity of EN's existing architecture. I merely look forward to having my view vindicated. Anyway, as I jumped back in to discuss the potential relationship between v6 and when we might see nested notebooks in v10, having done that, I'll jump back out. See you in April, unless something really interesting happens before then.
  4. Since switching to another note app as my daily driver, I've been spending less time here. Popped in yesterday because it occurred to me that v6 might be a holdup to nested notebooks and wanted to have that discussion. That said, I still have *thousands* of notes in Evernote, so of course I want to be here. Plus, it's entertaining watching the slow motion wreck that is v10 - hard to look away actually! We are witnessing in real time what could be a business school case study. Fascinating stuff, IMHO. And of course we cannot rule out the possibility that EN management successfully navigates this rocky period and emerges with a world class note app. So that's another reason to stick around. At the end of the day, I want to use the best note app for my needs, and given that this has been Evernote for many years, it would be foolish to dismiss EN as a permanently lost cause. As for your sacred cow API, I really couldn't have cared less until you expressed such supreme confidence that EN would never ever do anything that would adversely affect the existing API. My observations from using EN and being on this forum for years tells me that you are wrong. But we shall see!
  5. Indeed. It's as if he's only been here for a few months. EN has a long history of breaking workflows. What EN has shown repeatedly is if they believe they need to change something to stay relevant/competitive, they will do it no matter how much it disrupts things for their userbase. @ehrt74 I look forward to your sacred cow API being butchered. Exactly - and none of the naysayers has addressed the point that the CEO himself is essentially saying that tags are a niche feature for power users. And everyone who has been here for more than a couple of months should know how much priority EN places on niche features used by power users. I'd bet a lot of money that Small doesn't view nested notebooks as similarly niche.
  6. Do you think EN rewrote the entire codebase for v10 and NOT build in a pathway to add nested notebooks? If Libin was still the CEO, I would find that plausible. With Small, a CEO who claims that only a tiny minority of the userbase uses tags, I find it impossible to believe. The writing is on the wall. Evernote will get nested notebooks.
  7. Also Joplin, where you can have automatically displayed in every note the backlinks to other notes. Plus it's very easy to create links to other notes without switching notes and without your hands ever leaving the keyboard. And it has outline view as well. Evernote, by not having backlinks, very easy note linking or outline view, is miles behind the competition in this regard.
  8. I really shouldn't have to explain this. Resources are finite, are they not? If a company pours some of its finite resources (funds, CEO mindshare, etc.) into merchandising, that necessarily reduces resources available for other pursuits.
  9. LOL, you are living in fantasy land. There's a reason many note apps have nested notebooks. And even among EN users, this is a highly requested feature for as long as Evernote has been around. Telling me about tags is preaching to the (very tiny) choir. I have no desire for nested notebooks, and use very few notebooks, and do not use notebooks to categorize by subject matter, but I also recognize that I am in a tiny minority of users. No less an authority than the current CEO has said that only 2% or 5% (I think he's used both figures in different comments post v10 release) of users are using tags. He wasn't referring to nested tags, but tagging in general. I think it's safe to assume that nested tag use is going to be a small fraction of general tag use. By golly, you better tell Microsoft and Apple they're doing it all wrong with their folders inside folders and allowing folders to contain both files and folders. The horror! Ah, now we're getting to the crux of the matter, and the entire point of my earlier post. We have a highly requested feature that much of the competition implements, we have a new app in need of a big 'win', we have a new CEO who clearly isn't wedded to tags (in contrast to Phil Libin), and 10(?) updates into v10, we still don't have nested notebooks. Why not? Probably because it would break old clients. There are few things I'm more certain of regarding Evernote's future than that the green elephant will get nested notebooks. It's just a matter of moving users off the old clients. Right now they are constrained because v10 is such a disaster, but once most of the significant bugs have been removed and the feature set has been enhanced to put it near the same level as Legacy, EN is going to force the hand of the Legacy stragglers.
  10. Given how much of the competition has nested notebooks, including apps built on Electron as v10 is, it seems to me this feature is quite feasible to add. And given the desire of the vast majority of EN users for this feature, providing it early on in v10 would have been a great win for a version that has been mired in controversy. That it hasn't been added in the initial release or the many subsequent updates makes me wonder if the holdup is v6/Legacy. Might it be that they need to stop syncing v6/Legacy before they can change the architecture to support nested notebooks?
  11. I just whitelisted the Clipper for all sites, and now it works. I'm also able to access Options. Strange because I previously whitelisted the site I was trying to clip from, but that didn't work. Thanks for helping me get it working. But it sucks that I have to give such broad access to the Clipper. Unnecessarily intrusive.
  12. 'tabClipper.checkBackgroundStatus' failed with error: Error: Tab must be specified ^ That's the error I'm seeing in the logs.
  13. Just installed Brave browser on Windows 10. EN Clipper has been fine for me in Chrome browser, but it's not working in Brave. I was able to log into the Clipper extension, but cannot access options (the wheel just spins indefinitely as seen in snapshot below). And when I click on the Clipper extension, I just see a briefly flashing popup indicating that login was successful, but it doesn't try to clip the page the Brave browser is on. Anyone experiencing something similar in Brave?
  14. Amazing. Months after the release, v10 is the disaster that keeps on giving. We have seen multiple users complaining about sluggishness in various aspects, but nothing is as maddening as when an app cannot keep up with your typing. Doesn't matter how good a note app is in other aspects, if I have to wait for it to catch up with my typing, that's a fatal flaw.
  15. That site is a good starting point, but be aware that the site is updated by one person, and he's not spending his days checking for updates on all these note apps. So essentially the site is only as current as the messages he gets from people pointing out changes in particular apps. For example, Joplin has features that are incorrectly reported as being absent - daily notes/templates, pdf viewed within note, E2EE, export note links, Linux app, backlinks, intra-note links, notebook hierarchy, shortcuts, etc. Another example is Evernote, which is listed as having E2EE, which it absolutely does not. My advice for dissatisfied EN users is use the noteapps.info site to get a general overview of the competitive landscape, but don't take the specific feature list for any app literally, as it could be very out of date. If you are interested in an app, install it and import just your current working notes and use the app as your daily driver for a couple of weeks. If it fails your test drive, it's easy to import those notes back to Evernote, and you can try out another app.
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