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CalS, Thanks. That's just what I was looking for. I can't check it now but when I get back I'll make sure the file and folder you mention is on the P: drive. When I leave the machine I log out so P: has to be reconnected when it's turned back on. Mike

gazumped, I used the option "Evernote Local files" on the Evernote General tab which apparently specifies the location of some local files. It takes a path that by default is set to something like "C:\Users\Mike\Evernote". There is no external volume involved. I use the VeraCrypt feature to create an encrypted pseudo-drive that has a drive letter (I use P: for private) assigned to it. The encrypted information is stored in a big file that I can put anywhere on my 😄 drive. When I start the PC I enter the password that allows P: to be accessed. The "Evernote Local files" option is set to "P:\Users\Mike\Evernote". If someone starts my PC or removes the hard drive and views it they can't view anything on P: if they don't know the password. When I poke around looking for Evernote files I see lots of them in P:\Users\Mike\Evernote and also at C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Local, C:\Users\Mike\AppData\LocalStorage, C:\Users\Mike\AppData\LocalLow, and C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Roaming, and there may be others. My question is if the various files on 😄 contain notes or portions of notes that could allow someone to view information in my notes. Mike

Hi, I want to improve security on a Windows laptop that has Evernote installed to reduce the exposure of my information if the laptop is stolen. The best approach would be whole disk encryption but the machine is so old and slow that I don't want to slow it further. One thing I've done is used the Evernote Local Files option to store Evernote files on a VeraCrypt encrypted volume. That will protect information controlled by that option but I see that some information is stored in other locations on my C: drive. It's not clear what is stored where and so I don't know what is protected and what isn't. Can anyone tell me how effective this approach is? Specifically what information is controlled by the Local Files option and what is stored on C:? Thanks, Mike

AFAIK there's no way to do this. I have auto update disabled, and every morning I go into Play and individually install every update except Evernote. It's a pain but it beats the alternative.

Never mind. My mistake. The list of apps indicates what apps are allowed to sideload an app (typically a file manager), not the apps that can be sideloaded. Once I enabled the file manager I was using to sideload Evernote it worked fine. Sorry for the false alarm. Mike

Hi, This morning I opened my Pixel 3 phone and saw that my Evernote Legacy app was spontaneously updating to the current version even though I definitely DON'T want it because it strips certain formatting information from my notes. So I deleted the new app and tried to install the legacy apk. I was then blocked by a message that says I'm not allowed to sideload apps even though I previously enabled that option and have sideloaded before. I then tried to set the option to allow sideloading (/Settings/Apps and Notifications/Advanced/Special App Access/Install Unknown Apps) where previously there was a single checkbox to enable sideloading. But now there's a list of apps with a checkbox to enable apps individually. Evernote isn't listed and there's no way to add an an entry. Unless I'm missing something it appears that Evernote has just taken away our ability to use Evernote legacy on Android! Mike

Eric, thanks for that, but I don't follow. I do have the left toolbar open. If I've entered search text, what do I do then? When I click (or Ctrl-click or Alt-click) on a tag the search text disappears, so how do I add the tags without clearing the text search? I did find another solution, sort of. You can do the text search first, and then use the Add Filters icon to add tags from a list. That order is unintuitive to me (I prefer setting where I'm searching first) but maybe some will prefer it. However I still don't see a way to use shortcuts with a text search, which is a big loss for me. Why remove the more intuitive (Ctrl-click is a standard for selecting multiple items on a list) method that everyone is familiar with? Any why remove the ability to use Shortcuts with text search altogether?

Hi, In legacy Evernote I commonly select one or more tags (via the tag list or shortcut list on the left panel) and then search for text within those notes to get a list of notes I want to examine. Specifically I click on a shortcut that specifies the tags and then type into the search field. This is very efficient: click the shortcut, click to position the cursor in the search field, and then type my search term. When I naively try this procedure with the new Evernote it doesn't work. If I click on the shortcut I see the matching notes as expected, but when I type in the search field my tag selection is discarded and ALL my notes are searched. If I try reversing the process, i.e. search for the text and then filter via tags, it fails in the same way. The text search searches every note as I expect, but when I specify the tag filters the text search is ignored so I see ALL notes that match the tag filters. I tried using the search field tag: feature to specify the tags in the search field with the search term. That works, but it's not practical because I must type way more and remember all the tags and type them all in. That makes searching so much more work that it's not practical for regular use. I've searched the online documentation but can find nothing about this. Please someone tell me how I can search using both tag and text criteria that doesn't require that I type in all the tags manually but rather lets me select the shortcuts and tags from a list. Thanks, Mike

PinkElephant, I've sent in a lot of support tickets. For the last one I sent 7 emails, tried some things they suggested but didn't help, generated a log, and recorded (using an application I had to install on my PC) the actions that caused the bug. In other situations I've also sent in an Evernote note that I crafted (to avoid exposing personal information) that demonstrated the problem. In this and other cases after a long series of emails and work on my part they've agreed that the malfunction exists, and then said they won't fix it. I think they're making a diligent and competent effort, but nevertheless when I report a problem I have to be prepared to invest a significant chunk of my time and effort and at the same time realize that there's a good chance that the bug won't be fixed. Sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it. Mike

On the Android main screen the number of notes that can be listed is smaller than it could be because there's so much wasted space. On my Pixel 3 even if I turn off all view options (tags, text, images, note size) I nevertheless see only 6 notes listed. This is not enough: I often need to scroll some to find what I want and so I'd like to see as many notes listed as possible. The sad thing is that there are 2 empty lines for every entry, so 6 x 2 = 12 empty lines on the screen, which if removed would allow maybe 2 or 3 more notes to be listed. Why do we need 2 blank lines in the middle of every note entry? Particularly on a small screen device this seems like a terrible visual design choice which is completely unnecessary.

I finally tried the new Android version of Evernote and immediately tested for long standing issues that I had with legacy Evernote. With the legacy version medium size notes would take a long time to open, then take a lot more time to be ready to edit, and sometimes would respond slowly to inputs. I tried one note using the new version and the performance is much better. The note opens quickly, is ready to edit immediately, and responds to editing inputs as expected. That's a worthwhile improvement. I tested again with a large note and this time performance was terrible. The note displayed immediately but then the app was completely unresponsive, soon displayed the app isn't responding message, and I had to cancel. It's hard to compare with the legacy app because there's a lot of variability in the behavior of both, but the new version is at least as bad and maybe worse. I thought that the new apps were going to fix problems with the old architecture. It's disappointing that they haven't corrected this major performance problem.

You're right: my guess is that I could do better! But how much am I going to get paid to find and document these bugs? Or is the plan that I just keep plugging along reporting problems because I want a tool that I heavily rely on and pay good money for to work correctly? I guess that's a good plan from Evernote's perspective: they save on QA because their users do the work for free that they should do before releasing the product. My message is that I wish Evernote would do a better job of QA, not release new versions that remove critical features, and in general treat their customer base with greater respect. New features and architecture are great, as long as you don't break the product for your loyal users who just want to keep using it without a huge investment in bug reporting and personal workflow changes.

Hi, Even though the new EN is missing a must-have feature for me (hiding the right panel) I thought I'd give the new version a try. I installed it, then reinstalled the legacy version, and made a copy of a note to test with (because the new version permanently strips all image indentation information from the note which for me breaks the note). I then did a little testing. I assumed I could edit a note with both versions as long only one EN version was open at once. First (as suggested by or8m8 on this forum) I tried the note option /Note/Note Width/Optimize Readibility to see if that would be an acceptable circumvention of the problem of removal of the image indentation capability. When I tried this option it had no effect: it just didn't work. The indentation of every image in the note was unchanged. I then noticed that I had a mixture of fonts and font sizes in the document that I hadn't noticed in the legacy version. In the new version I selected everything in the note (Ctrl-A) and used the pull-downs at the top to set the font and font size. However that also had no discernible effect on the fonts or font sizes. Later I tried this using the legacy version and it worked fine. During my testing at one point the legacy version showed 2 notes with the identical name and attributes. However later on the duplicate had disappeared. Since it was just a test I didn't notice if some edits disappeared too. Am I missing something? Shouldn't I be able to alternatively edit a note as long as only one version is open? Is there something else I'm doing wrong? Or did I just happen to discover 3 bugs in 15 minutes of testing? Mike

or8m8, Thanks for the suggestion. I just installed the current version, made a copy of one of my notes that includes images (mostly created via Alt-PrtScr to capture a Window), set the Optimize Readibility option for the note, and nothing changed. Afterwards all images in the note are still fully left justified. None are centered, or indented as they were in the Legacy version. For me this option has no effect. Is there something else I need to do to make this work? Thanks, Mike

I wasn't clear. I was not saying that we should make that assumption now: that's clearly not what they're doing. I meant that the better choice for both users and Evernote would have been to implement all features of the legacy version except for those for which there was a specific design benefit for excluding.