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  1. 20 hours ago, gazumped said:

    The forums here are mainly supported by other users,  so "we" don't have any testers that we're aware of.  Linux users are part of the general Evernote community so hopefully will be aware that things are not progressing.  (The last Linux version being 10.29 might have been a clue...).  If any questions come up in the forums we'll let the posters know the position.   The current web version is now much more advanced than the Linux client,  but if an existing tester finds the beta version is useful,  then they can continue to use it.

    My question was directed to the thread's original author, who appears to work at Evernote.

    The Linux Beta testing program was a pretty formal program, with agreements and a private forum. By abandoning that whole group, Evernote seems to be making light of the time and effort beta testers had/have been putting in for the benefit of Evernote.

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  2. Just passing through and saw this, so I'll give my similar experience.

    I also lost some images when I went from v6 -> v10. The issue is that, at some point in the EN client history, malformed HTML was being generated, which the v6 client tolerated. v10 apparently doesn't only not tolerate the bad HTML, it'll rewrite it to "proper" HTML and in the process wipe out, in my case, images.

    The way I figured this out was by exporting a note with the issue to ENEX from v6, then exporting that same note again in v10. From the v6 export I could see that I had a bunch of un-closed `<li>` tags, and in the v10 export that was all fixed up, but my images were gone.

    I opened a ticket with Evernote, and after a few months, they did actually fix that particular case. But, I still had all sorts of notes that were losing images, and on top of all of the other one-at-a-time formatting issues I had slowly gotten fixes for, I just didn't care anymore. The import tool I was using for a different notes program was handling the issue gracefully.

     

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  3. 18 hours ago, gazumped said:

    Such a rush to get the software even the company don't think is quite ready for release.  The web version on the other hand is almost as good and freely available...

    When you say "almost as good," I just want to double check - the desktop client is the only way to work offline and edit attachments without downloading/uploading them, right? These features don't exist in the web client last I tried.

  4. 4 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

    The editor of the new version is build for straightforward note taking. It is not a layouting tool for complex text design.

    I think it tries to make sense of the old note. It treats it within the limits of its concept as bullet points plus content, because this is what it is build for.

    The numbers are just text I've typed in. I've pasted another example where there aren't any numbers.

    The suggestion that my indented list, highlights, and text colours are "complex text design," and that they're "text design ideas" Evernote is unlikely to accommodate is bordering on absurd. These are all features the current text edit supports.

    I can't recreate the issue going between Evernote Legacy and the current version 10. It does seem like highlighted text and multiple indents is the common denominator. I'll make a support request with Evernote to see if they care to look into it.

    Screen Shot 2021-11-29 at 4.56.19 PM.png

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  5. The new version of Evernote (10) isn't properly displaying indented lists in notes created in the older version of Evernote (version 7 and before). I've included a screenshot of the two side by side. There also seems to be some font formatting lost, which I'm just noticing now.

    If I make any edit to a note with the indents lost, the changes stick, and it will then display this way in the old version as well.

    I'd be surprised if it was happening only to me, but I wasn't able to find anything about it in this forum, aside from someone on Android complaining of lost indents.

     

    Anyone else having this issue?

     

     

    Screen Shot 2021-11-29 at 8.39.32 AM.png

  6. I clip this website using the Evernote Web Clipper 7.17.0 in Firefox (on macOS): https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7414

    Now, I want to modify the formatting of what I've clipped, so as usual, I click the "Simplify & make editable" button (in 10.25.6-mac-mas-public (458831), or the web interface). It appears to simplify the formatting, but I'm unable to highlight or bold any text. I can insert text, however.

    I believe it's because simplifying the formatting has placed the text in code block, where such formatting is still not allowed. I couldn't figure out how to remove the code blocks. I've tried copying and pasting without formatting, but in the browser at least, I'm still getting content in a code block.

    Any suggestion appreciated, but I'm thinking this is a bug.

     

    Thanks

  7. The search I want to do is: someterm AND (tag:A OR tag:B)

    As in, "I want all the notes with tag 'A' or 'B', which contain the term "someterm".

    So I looked through this page: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php

    And it looked like "any:" was going to do it. I tried: any: tag:A tag:B

    And that brought back notes that had either of those tags, great! But whether "someterm" is in the front or back of that, I wasn't getting the results I wanted.

     

    Can someone tell me the correct way to perform this search? I was doing this on "Evernote Legacy," so I'm not sure if the search syntax will be different on the new client.

     

    Thanks!

  8. 45 minutes ago, BigBug said:

    Seriously? That's ridiculous. Why roll out updates to only some of the users? Do they have a bandwidth problem with handling too many updates at once? Once again, I question the intelligence of the Evernote upper management team.

    I don't know if this is what's happening, but other companies do slow roll outs (Chrome I know of in particular) in order to assess whether or not the update had any previously uncaught issues. Better to catch it when only 5% of your user base updated then after 100% updated.

  9. I used (and paid for) Postachio for about a year. It worked fine. But as you may be experiencing with the support response time, I felt like it was just being minimally maintained by someone with a day job.

    It was supposed to have a feature where it would show different authors for posts, depending on which Evernote account created the note in a shared notebook. After some troubleshooting with support, I was told a fix would be on the way. Months later my inquiries about the progress were ignored. It never did work for me.

    What I really liked was knowing my posts were always safe in Evernote, and that I could write/format them as I wanted in Evernote, and just have my blog post look like that. Ultimately though, $5 /month combined with the irritation that their support window shows my messages were being read, but just not replied to, lead me to greener pastures.

    We moved to GitHub Pages. Unless you're already technically inclined, I wouldn't recommend it. It's 100% different than blogging with Evernote, but I was surprised how quickly my wife picked it up. It's free, hugely customizable, and searching for "github pages blogging" shows there's lots of help to be had. To keep the formatted posts in Evernote I just use the Web clipper on the rendered pages. No editing in Evernote.

     

    Good luck

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  10. The choppy scrolling on the laptop screen is probably because the resolution is much higher than the external display (even though the external display is larger). So, Evernote/macOS has to work harder to get all the changing details ready for display.

    Regarding your question about which laptop you should get because of this, I wouldn't choose your hardware hoping it will fix this. It shouldn't be choppy - this is an Evernote issue. I suspect if you looked at the same note in the Evernote web app, that it would scroll much smoother.

  11. The Evernote transparency report was last updated for 2018: https://evernote.com/privacy/transparency-report

    I know these support forums aren't official, but thought I would point that out for anyone interested, or in case there was someone here who knows more about that.

    I was impressed with the apparent push back Evernote gave regarding data requests (16 criminal requests, but only 5 "responded with data"). It'd be nice to know that Evernote is still only handing over user data when absolutely necessary.

     

    Chris

     

  12. Running macOS 10.13.6 with Evernote 7.14 (App store version).

    I haven't contacted support as I anticipate the response will be "reinstall," which seems to waste an opportunity for Evernote to avoid this problem with other users. So, I'm hoping this is useful to someone. 😀

    Evernote is currently syncing continuously, draining my battery, and using about 7KB up, 5KB down of bandwidth. Looking at my sync log I'm seeing (in part):

    Quote

    2020/01/29 10:26:30:825 W|**  16483 -[ENCoreDataLocalStore fetchEntityOfType:withPredicate:] | More than one result for entityName=ENResource, predicate=guid == "c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60", results=(
        "<ENMacResourceMO: 0x6000008b0140 MOID: 0xc618001cb <x-coredata://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/ENResource/p12678> GUID: c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60 Account: (null) USN: 752217 Active: 1 Dirty: 0 Filename: (null) Hash: <1d06b051 187d3fe6 198ae472 c989fc0c> Length: 67374>",
        "<ENMacResourceMO: 0x6000008aff60 MOID: 0xc654001cb <x-coredata://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/ENResource/p12693> GUID: c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60 Account: (null) USN: 752217 Active: 1 Dirty: 0 Filename: (null) Hash: <1d06b051 187d3fe6 198ae472 c989fc0c> Length: 67374>"
    )
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:837 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager fetchNextBatchOfDownloadOperationsUsingBackgroundTransfers:]_block_invoke | Processing 1 notes
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:837 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [d0854938-487f-4594-865b-6b57aa462e47]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [2928014b-cc0a-47a8-bbc2-cdba4d497941]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [6f3b0227-39ea-4f82-82c2-1f687e3994fa]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [6c0f3b6d-395a-4a11-a537-047b592bfce9]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [59dd929e-9ab4-4b71-bbd5-e044a1d39339]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [42c0ba9e-a290-44a4-a5fe-34ab4ba60f87]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:838 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [c3fd3a60-ca22-47ec-86f8-d7ebe0a9797e]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:839 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [f6538811-c24f-4bc0-ad69-7ffd222ade09]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:839 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Queueing Reco Data: c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:839 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Not queuing content (file exists): c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:839 I|*   16488 -[ENCacheManager generateOperationsForResource:usingGenerator:] | Received resource with cacheStatus:1, generated no operations [c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60]
    2020/01/29 10:26:30:962 W|**  16483 -[ENCoreDataLocalStore fetchEntityOfType:withPredicate:] | More than one result for entityName=ENResource, predicate=guid == "c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60", results=(
        "<ENMacResourceMO: 0x6000008b0140 MOID: 0xc618001cb <x-coredata://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/ENResource/p12678> GUID: c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60 Account: (null) USN: 752217 Active: 1 Dirty: 0 Filename: (null) Hash: <1d06b051 187d3fe6 198ae472 c989fc0c> Length: 67374>",
        "<ENMacResourceMO: 0x6000008aff60 MOID: 0xc654001cb <x-coredata://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/ENResource/p12693> GUID: c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60 Account: (null) USN: 752217 Active: 1 Dirty: 0 Filename: (null) Hash: <1d06b051 187d3fe6 198ae472 c989fc0c> Length: 67374>"
    )

    I've bolded the parts that I think represent the problem. In my 'content' directory (where all my notes are), if I grep for the guid '16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA', I get:

    $ grep -lri "16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA" .
    ./A54E6E60-24E3-4549-B88E-54CB1F4EB092/note.xhtml
    ./ED3FC5D5-9F08-4905-B29E-837469283E6A/note.xhtml
    ./8F88A765-8012-44AC-BA27-20B734132091/note.xhtml
    ./88BCA9C6-CA27-4A8D-8853-341AE76A265F/note.xhtml
    ./59D8D876-A00F-4617-8334-04D84F586484/note.xhtml
    ./4192EC2F-8A2E-4F4B-AA5F-DBE11E313EF9/note.xhtml
    ./F6B1EC41-5590-430B-BD5E-CE1661782264/note.xhtml
    ./0173CAE2-9530-4477-A661-8FA92F5B6B73/note.xhtml
    ./36365DCE-4F0D-42A1-AFFE-81DF89AF7EAA/note.xhtml
    ./67E710F6-5EFD-4345-9FEA-0F2A86484057/content-pre-sync.enml
    ./67E710F6-5EFD-4345-9FEA-0F2A86484057/snippet.txt
    ./67E710F6-5EFD-4345-9FEA-0F2A86484057/content.enml
    ./61F2DD0F-BE67-4096-AF83-89300FDEDE76/note.xhtml
    ./38B613C3-4888-4CCE-A75A-EA85D24AB818/note.xhtml
    ./6B7DA6DC-DD60-4EA9-88AB-C53A4144E501/note.xhtml
    ./D296697C-92A7-4B53-9666-B99D1C6EE530/note.xhtml
    ./75501781-D509-4D15-9621-97C6F9F5C7BA/note.xhtml
    ./CB53E28A-DF7C-484A-A9E2-D85DE91D7F3E/note.xhtml
    ./E416F82B-0A9E-440B-997D-9039D8920CFE/note.xhtml

    In a sampling of these notes, I see images like:

    <img src="evernotecid://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/wwwevernotecom/7460442/ENResource/p12103" id="en-media:image/png:6400d81a6838d6833e54210c8f82809c:none:none" width="586" class="en-media"></img>
    ...
    <img src="evernotecid://16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA/wwwevernotecom/7460442/ENResource/p11903" id="en-media:image/png:6ecd8eee3764e270ec6a68d9730dad79:none:none" class="en-media"></img>

    Other little things that might help:

    • The guid "c9397a0e-602a-44ee-a917-06857663ba60", which the log references repeatedly, doesn't exist as any part of a file name, or as a string in my 'content' directory.
    • These images sharing the "16C8E5FF-2E42-47C8-AD37-305DC50248EA" guid show up fine in Evernote.
    • These images are also showing up in the web interface
    • This syncing problem is much more recent than these notes
    • I've been running Evernote 7.14 since release

    So here is where my lack of Evernote knowledge leaves me. I'll hang out on the web client for a day or so, then probably just resort to reinstalling.

    Hope this can help someone!

  13. I suspect that is where things are going - not just in Evernote, but in many apps. I somewhat agree with you, but consider it as a business decision: Electron makes it easy to target multiple platforms and allows the many web developers familiar with HTML/CSS/JavaScript to write desktop apps. As a frequent Linux user, I also appreciate that Electron is making it easier for commercial applications to be published for Linux. Your options for many apps may actually be "Electron or nothing at all."

    Evernote's present/previous state serves as a good example of what can happen when there's a native client for every platform: inconsistency and slow development.

    Have you used the new Evernote web beta? It's pretty slick, and I feel I'd be willing to trade some RAM and battery life for rearrangable bullet points. I know it could be done in a native application, but how many years went by where Evernote didn't? Only Evernote knows for sure, but it seems likely to me that the development effort only became worth it when the time spent on such a feature would only be needed once, then could apply to all their platforms.

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  14. 15 hours ago, gazumped said:

    OK - just as a postscript on the above - 

    This is my Task Manager with Evernote web active...

    888210136_ScreenClip4.png.6bcacdaefa7bf8132844af1771394bfc.png

    And this is after I kill that tab.

    641711612_ScreenClip5.png.fbbfb7129ab7d1bd62681fd8f5893e9d.png

    The memory drop after killing the tab is only 300M, but, I suspect there's still memory being tied up. I assume 1.2G of memory use in Brave isn't usual for you? I was never able to catch the high memory use, I only knew it had happened after the fact because Linux killed the process.

  15. On 6/27/2019 at 5:30 AM, rimboma said:

    Just noticed it. Few important words of clarification, especially intended for general public not familiar with web technologies:

    1. The part about Gecko may make it look like Gecko is some technological cruft that Firefox intends to rely on. Firefox is well in the process of replacing vital parts of under-the-hood components with Servo, a very modern and efficient system, under the Quantum project.

    2. It was the Evernote's choice to rely on Google's WebKit, locking non-WebKit browsers (browsers not based on Chrome, essentially).

    3. WebKit adoption is part of the "slow boiling the frog" process that hurts internet users in the long run. See the sources.

     

    Sources:

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum

    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/microsoft-begs-web-devs-not-to-make-webkit-the-new-ie6/

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18617189

    I found it irritating that the message seems to imply the problem is with Firefox, rather than Evernote choosing not to use widely adopted standards that already exist for web applications. I guess this just echos your #2 point.

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  16. Yeah, this is with the beta only. You don't experience this issue with the beta version and Brave? Or is it just with Brave and the current client that it works fine for you?

    I'm back to "current" which doesn't have any issues (aside from not being as nice to use). I was hoping as the beta client was beta that there might be a chance of helping to find an issue. I guess I'll just check in on it from time to time.

    I've also noticed that when sitting idle Brave and the beta client will use a solid 5% of my CPU, while the current client will use none.

    🤷‍♂️

  17. I've been using the new Evernote beta web client in Brave on Linux lately. I'll leave two windows open throughout the day. At seemingly random times my system will become unresponsive and after 30 seconds or so Brave will be killed and my system starts running normally again.

    My 'dmesg' output has:

    [72616.778671] Out of memory: Kill process 47516 (brave) score 318 or sacrifice child
    [72616.778757] Killed process 47516 (brave) total-vm:784704kB, anon-rss:163084kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:2840kB
    [72616.809596] oom_reaper: reaped process 47516 (brave), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:2720kB
    

    I'm reasonably sure this is related to the new Evernote web client, as in the past I've left Brave open for a day or more without issue. I've watched the Brave process closely and the memory use stay fairly constant, so whatever happens must be sudden. Memory use of my system is usually 5GiB/7.8GiB or less.

    So, putting this out there in case others have experienced this, or if someone can give me tips on how I can track this down better. 

     

    Thanks!

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