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  1. I suspect that is where things are going - not just in Evernote, but in many apps. I somewhat agree with you, but consider it as a business decision: Electron makes it easy to target multiple platforms and allows the many web developers familiar with HTML/CSS/JavaScript to write desktop apps. As a frequent Linux user, I also appreciate that Electron is making it easier for commercial applications to be published for Linux. Your options for many apps may actually be "Electron or nothing at all." Evernote's present/previous state serves as a good example of what can happen when there's a native client for every platform: inconsistency and slow development. Have you used the new Evernote web beta? It's pretty slick, and I feel I'd be willing to trade some RAM and battery life for rearrangable bullet points. I know it could be done in a native application, but how many years went by where Evernote didn't? Only Evernote knows for sure, but it seems likely to me that the development effort only became worth it when the time spent on such a feature would only be needed once, then could apply to all their platforms.
  2. Running Firefox 68 on Linux, I was kicking around in the previous (current?) version of Evernote web. Clicking my user-icon thing, clicked the "Switch to new Evernote version" (or something worded similar), and it worked! Hopefully this is news to other people, because I didn't know, and I was very eager to see this happen!
  3. The memory drop after killing the tab is only 300M, but, I suspect there's still memory being tied up. I assume 1.2G of memory use in Brave isn't usual for you? I was never able to catch the high memory use, I only knew it had happened after the fact because Linux killed the process.
  4. I found it irritating that the message seems to imply the problem is with Firefox, rather than Evernote choosing not to use widely adopted standards that already exist for web applications. I guess this just echos your #2 point.
  5. Yeah, this is with the beta only. You don't experience this issue with the beta version and Brave? Or is it just with Brave and the current client that it works fine for you? I'm back to "current" which doesn't have any issues (aside from not being as nice to use). I was hoping as the beta client was beta that there might be a chance of helping to find an issue. I guess I'll just check in on it from time to time. I've also noticed that when sitting idle Brave and the beta client will use a solid 5% of my CPU, while the current client will use none. 🤷‍♂️
  6. I've been using the new Evernote beta web client in Brave on Linux lately. I'll leave two windows open throughout the day. At seemingly random times my system will become unresponsive and after 30 seconds or so Brave will be killed and my system starts running normally again. My 'dmesg' output has: [72616.778671] Out of memory: Kill process 47516 (brave) score 318 or sacrifice child [72616.778757] Killed process 47516 (brave) total-vm:784704kB, anon-rss:163084kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:2840kB [72616.809596] oom_reaper: reaped process 47516 (brave), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:2720kB I'm reasonably sure this is related to the new Evernote web client, as in the past I've left Brave open for a day or more without issue. I've watched the Brave process closely and the memory use stay fairly constant, so whatever happens must be sudden. Memory use of my system is usually 5GiB/7.8GiB or less. So, putting this out there in case others have experienced this, or if someone can give me tips on how I can track this down better. Thanks!
  7. That looks right. I guess I was hoping for something obviously wrong. I figure either your system is interpreting the application wrong (thinking it's a file type it's not) or a broken Evernote application is persisting despite your reinstallation. Do you have any kind of virus scanner or browser extension that might be reading/modifying your downloads? I notice in an above post of yours that the Evernote application from the downloaded image has the proper icon, whereas before it didn't. What if you tried dragging the Evernote application, from the downloaded dmg, into your downloads folder or somewhere else that wasn't in your Applications folder? Can you run it from there?
  8. In Finder, when you select Evernote and do a "cmd+i", what does this window show?
  9. I'm sorry to say that the text editing functionality is quite new (around a year old). They implemented a new cross-platform editor for a common code base. It's written in Javascript, I'm fairly sure. Pull up Activity monitor, sort by CPU use, and then beside it start typing at a normal pace in and Evernote note. You'll be baffled at how/why a computer function as old as computers themselves (text editing) needs to use ~40% of a modern CPU (on my system). My theory: Evernote developers spend their days madly trying to build and fix a house built on sand, while management demands new additions be built yesterday. With 100 different problems, a Javascript editor to unify some of their code base seems like a great idea, but now they have 101 problems.
  10. I couldn't adequately compare versions. You could try one, uninstall, try the other. The problem of blank search results I believe is High Sierra-specific, and I've seen mention of the problem in fairly recent releases, so I don't know that 6.11.1 would have fixed that problem. Depending on your dedication to this, you can use VMware Fusion (or Parallels or Virtual Box) to run different versions of Evernote isolated from your system. This would give you a taste of what you were in for. But then at some point you have to ask yourself why you're spending so much time on a tool that's suppose to make your life easier.
  11. I'm running 6.9 (On macOS 10.13.3), which I make the case for here: Bugs I run in to: List of notes in search results can sometimes be blank (there are results, you just can't see them) My reminders at the top of my note list will sometimes get squished together at the top (not currently doing it, or I'd paste a screenshot) I've decided it's worth it to stick with this version for now. I do keep a close eye on the beta forums.
  12. It seems entirely redundant when the option exists for putting that same button in the top bar. Which, could be fine, but then making it non-optional is a bit much. I feel that the sidebar has better things to do with its real estate than host a mandatory, redundant button. Fingers crossed for this being an upcoming option.
  13. I did something recently that made me so happy I decided to share. I downgraded from Evernote 6.13 to 6.9. Let me tell you why - In Evernote 6.10 the old text editing code was replaced with new (Javascript-based, I believe) editing code. This was done to pave the way for new enhancements, and likely to create a common code base for the editor across all their platforms. It's the reason why tables got a lot more fancy soon after the 6.10 release. Further, somewhere around 6.12 Evernote started trying to synchronize your notes in real time. So, version 6.9 was the last version before all that started; it was released September 8th, 2016. Here is why I'm basking in the glow of "outdated" code: Memory use no longer grows without bounds. 2+GB was normal by the middle of the day previously. Now, I sit at a steady 400MB of memory use. Power use is no longer through the roof (which I think came with the continuous syncing). macOS 'Monitor' displays a metric for energy use, and those numbers are most interesting in relation to each other. Entering plaintext on the newer EN clients, the "Energy Impact" would sit around "66". Now, with 6.9, the average is well below "1", and editing is always under "5". Much more concrete, I can work the day at the library and leave with over 50% of my battery left. Previously, with 6.13, I was leaving with ~30% left. After a couple of hours after starting Evernote, my cursor doesn't stutter as I type Text editing with bullets doesn't do inexplicable things sometimes. Tables, although less pretty, happily resize with my note window My search bar is spacious My Atlas is back Want to do this too? Backup your notes! In particular, your local-only notebooks. Delete your old Evernote Rename/move the following directory: ~/Library/Application Support/com.evernote.Evernote Install Evernote 6.9. You can get the official binary here: Run Evernote 6.9, log in, get all your settings the way you like it, let it finish syncing Import any local-only notebooks Uneasily enjoy as you hope Evernote fixes their Mac client faster than they decide to block your old client! What could go wrong? Evernote is changing a lot in their new clients, Sync might slowly become incompatible is non-obvious ways. Data loss/mangling is a possibility Notes created in the new/old version might start to work less well in old/new versions. Evernote may just decide to block older clients There was a version 6.9.2 released, which was probably released for a very good reason, but I couldn't find that official file. 6.9 (or 6.9.2) aren't without their own bugs. Choose your poison! There might be security issues? I'm not sure the real risk here, but prior to being burned so badly with new EN releases, I would have said always stay up to date with software. I have no knowledge of security problems in older versions. There you go. My experience has been flawless. I was happy to see that the tables I created in the new client look just fine (better, in fact) in the old client. And, to be clear, this is an attempt at constructive criticism of the current Mac client situation. I'm incredibly entrenched in my Evernote ways, but I'm suffering from death by a thousand cuts with the current client. At some point the pain of reworking my workflow and foregoing some EN features is going to outweigh the pain of trying to work with the new client. Good luck! (?)
  14. For whatever it's worth, the sync issues coincide with Evernote ceasing to support older versions of macOS. In effect, the last version of Evernote many Mac users will have access to will be an exceptionally buggy one. This seems like unfortunate timing.
  15. So, I guess there are a few reasons I don't consider this enough. First, is that each independently encrypted section of text asks for a password. Sounds like that doesn't bother you, but if I'm flipping through notes, I don't want to have to decrypt repeatedly just to browse. As well, I feel it works against using strong passwords as I'm likely to just pick some easy password for everything. Second, I can only encrypt text. I can't just blanket highlight and encrypt everything. I can't encrypt if there's an attachment, image, or table (and maybe even more stuff). I'm surely not going to separately encrypt around these things in my notes, just to make sure I get all the text. Not an objective reason, but, I don't really trust it. It appears at one point Evernote had an official statement about the implementation (Actually in a post of yours: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/106326-evernote-encryption/?do=findComment&comment=466895) but they've since removed it (https://evernote.com/security/). Encrypting attachments sounds like a good approach, but, it does kind of break most workflows. For a new document I'd have to save it to the file system, attach it in Evernote, then delete it from the file system (or risk forgetting which copy was the current one). As for the "leaving Evernote fire," I guess, maybe it's just the places I hang out, but it feels like its been a pretty persistent sentiment in a lot of places for over a year now. Lack of note security I see cited often. I agree with your impression of it, however.
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