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It looks interesting, but for some reason I can't locate the app on Google Play. I emailed the dev so maybe he can shed some light on that. :-)

For Android devices, there is an App doing spaced repetition integrating Evernote:

http://www.revunote.com

Unfortunately not for iOS.

I asked the guys at Revunote whether an iOS version is planned but I had to learn that this is not the case.

I haven't been here that much in a few weeks, and am really not up to backtracking through this thread, so please forgive me if I'm stating an obvious point...

@Workingman and @Christozoid, I used to handle a massive paper filing system as part of my job, so I do understand where you're coming from with regards to a hierarchical system of folders and sub-folders. Not using them when I first started with EN was a huge adjustment for me, but I now, by far, prefer the Tag system.

Granted, I'm not using EN in a business setting as I once did with the paper filing system, but I do recall one aspect of the the folder system that used to drive me nuts...and was equally applicable to the thousands of electronic files I processed and tracked each day.

That is that even with set perameters in place for everyone who has access to the files, people will always think just enough differently from everyone one else. What makes sense to as the appropriate destination for a document, even with clearly defined guides and "rules" set out for reference. In my experience, that inevitably led to problems with some files being located in hard to find locations.

The solution was to make copies of certain files - meaning those that could be applicable to more than one topic (or project) in the minds of someone accessing them, and put copies into every folder where they might look - and have a fairly elaborate cross-referencing system in place that I, as the filing gate keeper, had to set up and enforce.

Hope this is making sense...

With electronic files, the obvious problem with files that were worked on by more than one person, is how easily the current version can get lost or overwritten. This is where I find using the Tag system, along with a limited heirarchy of Notebook structure, Note Links (including creating a Table of Contents with clickable note links), and the use of EN's Search function, to be most effective. It allows me to cross-reference everything, track various projects and quickly drill down to find whatever I need.

In my case, and unlike some of the power users, such as Gazumped, I don't find it beneficial to completely do away with a hierarchical system of Notebooks and Stacks, i.e. folders and sub-folders. But I've managed over the past couple years, with some experimenting that led to reorganizing my EN database a few times, how to reduce and limit the number of Notebooks I actually need. That includes deleting or renaming several Tags a few times.

Tags can be safely deleted with having to worry about accidently losing individual Notes or entire Notebooks. (Though the latter two can be retrieved from your Trash Notebook, assuming you haven't deleted them from there too.) Tags, for me, serve the same function as making copies of my Notes (files) to put in every possibly applicable Notebook (folder). As others have pointed out, you don't want to get too carried away with Tags and end up with a ton that fast end up redundant and overwhelming.

Another handy thing about them, is the ability of the desktop EN apps to apply a particular Tag to multiple Notes at the same time select by first selecting them, then adding the Tag. Tags are also a great way to identify and grab all the notes belonging to a specific project that you want to archive out of your EN database.

Okay, I could keep going on about the pros of tagging for far too long, so I'll wrap it up now.

Quick question for you, Phils. Do you ever plans to expand into the Android market.

FYI I've posted an updated version of the program - it fixes a few reported bugs in extracting some of the fields, and it also adds a note's Date Created and Date Updated as two new exported columns.

You can have an unsynced Notebook on your desktop and if your Premium or Business, you can have one on your mobile device as well.

Or you could get a second account, free or paid, and save all your private notes in that one. All you need to set up another account is an alternate email address.

I'm baffled as to how many posts and threads there are on this topic- I don't have time to read all of them. But really, locking a notebook cannot be that hard to implement. I use EN to store all kinds of content quickly from many devices- like 20+ notes per day. I don't have time to sort through all the notes and tag them and put them in their own notebooks. I have assistants who do this. I don't want these assistants looking at some of the notes. To have one notebook where I can stash private notes would be ideal.

I can't think of a successful database-driven service that does not offer this. Maybe Evernote is just waiting to cash out from a buyout- maybe Google can come to the rescue.

Party pooper...

Hi Pete, sorry if you misunderstood my intenions. I wasn't trying to imply that you represent EN or that you think you do.

I just wanted to make it clear for the sake of anyone who reads this Thread, especially new Forum Members, that they are free to suggest whatever they would like to see Evernote do or add. And your post sounded a bit like you were trying to shut down the conversation using words like, "...it's pointless because..."

Regardless of Evernote's change in direction more for the business market, it's still a great for individual users like us. As such, I don't think we should be discouraging folks from posting Feature Requests, suggestions or any other thoughts they have about anything to do with Evernote

Also, I'm not entirely sure if submitting Feature Requests directly to EN through Support Ticket, is anymore useful than posting them here on the Forum. Either way, they get them and once it's in their hands, we, as users, have done all we can. But at least on the Forum, if it's a widely desired feature and large numbers of users chime in to support it, then we can present a united front to EN so they can't later says their wasn't enough users unterest to impliment a much wanted Fearure.

But I wasn't trying to insinuate anything about you, Pete. You're opinions, insights and thoughts are every bit as valif as everyone elses!

Sorry, Pete, I have to disagree that it's pointless to discuss. Evernote provides this forum as one of the ways they get customer feedback and staff have mentioned a few times that feature requests and suggestion are welcome.

Does that mean this request or any other will actually be implemented? Probably not, but it's really not our place to summarily shut down suggestion from other users. We don't speak for Evernote. ☺

If we wanted a smaller essential version of Evernote what features would you want to see.

THere would be no work chat or presentation in this mind you

It's pointless to discuss this because it is unlikely Evernote will go down this path in view of the fact that they are adding features for their business users particularly, and those can be turned off.

Um, you do know that clicking on a menu option that actually says the word "Save" is not the same thing as Syncing your changes up to the EN Servers, right? I don't use that particular feature on my Windows app, but do on my phone. I find it useful if I think I might be interrupted while working, but always manually Sync before exiting Evernote. I do the same when opening it. An any device for both syncs.

Hi,

I've been scanning business cards -- creating notes -- at a conference today.

When I go to edit them in the desktop app (much easier to type), Evernote will not save my edits.

I hit "Save" but when I return to the note, all my edits are gone.

The same problem does not exist with notes that are not scanned business cards; I can edit these notes on either platform and syncing works fine.

This is a problem because I can't rely on Evernote to save my edits. I'm losing valuable business contact information.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

Hmm, I see your point. I don't use the Share feature at all, but I have noticed more than a few aren't terribly happy about how it operates. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

It was reinstated a couple days afters they they pulled it. According to the below linked Article from the EN Knowledge Base, last updated on Feb. 17, 2015, it's now done through the Chat Feature.

https://evernote.com/contact/support/kb/#!/article/24973036/

I would suggest you create a new Notebook called, "My Public Notes & Links," or similar, then create and add Notes with any Link(s) you want to share publicly. This would give you the added benefit of being able to Title & Tag each Note, as well as provide a short blurb explaining what each Link in the Note is regarding.

FYI: I can still get to the notebook URL on the web interface, but having to go there just to get it is still not very user-friendly.

I do hope Evernote will back off from this idea - I am a paying power-user and not having public URLs for my notebooks and notes would be a major game-changer.

And, getting to the public Notebook URL from within Evernote should be made possible (or at least be made more obvious, like on the web interface).

First, sorry about the delay getting a response. To answer your question, sadly no. There is no way to increase the font size in the Android app. :-(

Is it possible to change the default font size in the mobile apps? Too small right now.

That would be great. Thank you!

The Paypal payment option is only available if you are paying via the website (using a web browser, like Chrome, Internet Explorer, Safari, or Firefox) and not when you are paying via one of the Evernote clients (e.g. if you are logged in to your Evernote Mac or Evernote Android app).

Nancy, this is *really*useful, key information that people shouldn't need to post or contact Support about.

A lot of people have been complaining about trying to upgrade with PayPal lately. PayPal's support says take it up with Evernote. Evernote says submit a Support Ticket...then crickets ensue while the user gets more and more frustrated and angry.

May I strongly suggest EN created a descriptive instruction article, with screenshots of exactly how each payment option works? And pin copies at this, as well as any other user forums hosted by EN, and makes it super obvious at the Evernote.com website?

I've said this before, but I"ll say it again here in an effort to get my point across...

I am one of what I strongly suspect is a very small sub-set of users with a lot of free time on my (out?) hands. Were I still mobile enough to have anything resembling a normal life, I would have given up on Evernote long ago. Why?

Because, by it's own accounts, the company keeps getting bigger and bigger, yet the quality of user experience appears to be in continual decline. It truly does come across, as noted by many, many users here at the forum, that over the last year, it truly does come across as though Evernote doesn't care at all about their users. Not even the Premium or Business ones. It feels like the company is still relying the "We're just a small start-up with terribly limited resourses; please do be patient," excuse.

But here's the thing, Evernote is not a small start-up anymore. Sure, it's resources are finite, but we aren't talking about a few guys in a basement or cheap rental office. Plus, there's a difference between patience and arrogance... Guess which way the company is coming across?

To be very clear, Nancy, I am not targetting you or any EN staff. Nor am I saying that EN does not care about it's users. But it's certainly a growing perception.

Buggy, premature release, features yanked with any notice, an apparently overwhelmed support department that can't live up to the advertised response time, scalabilty issues that have caused some of your longest standing users (and *free* PR champs) to seek other solutions for their data need, sync issues and the ever elusive quest to easily locate basic knowledge.

Yes, the Knowledge Base has seen much improvement in recent months. Yes the new forum changes and the crackdown on spam are great. But from a new to this type of software and/or user forums, locating basic info - such as how to make an advertised as acceptable payment - is oddly difficult to find. Just this morning, I learned from a post Lykoz left in the Productivity Bundle thread, that one had to use the Points system to ensure that if you purchase the package that's how you ensure it's applied to your existing EN account. Now I find out that to use PayPal, I can't do what seems to be the most intuitive option...go through my Windows or Android app and click on Upgrade. These are the types of things that would send many people - myself included in other circumstances - scampering away to find a company that appeared to actually want my business.

As I said, I personally, have the luxury of time to spare. Most people don't. If even I want to give up in despair at trying to find basic, yet oh so important info, how do you suppose others are feeling?

Please Evernote CEOs, focus less on selling yourself on being the next big thing in virtual work stations, and more on retaining the very customers who made you so sucessful. Live up to your own advertised promises.

Okay, rant over.

Please don't ever leave the forum, Grumpy. Please....

It matters where the servers are located because their physical location affects legal jurisdiction. US servers are under US laws and Chinese servers are under Chinese laws. Conditions in these countries might differ from the privacy / security expectations you enjoy in your country. If you think about copyright laws and other such restrictions on data that regularly affect everyday folks, you can imagine the trouble that could be caused if your data ends up in the wrong place, so it is a good idea to inquire into the location of the servers.

As was mentioned, Delaware is a well-known tax-haven, and Nimbus Notes apparently shares the office complex with some major US banks, but I don't think anyone else claims to share the same office with the administrative staff of the business complex. That is what piqued my interest, though it may all just be a misunderstanding. The fact that it is unclear where NN is located is enough of a red flag to keep me away. Other users may have a different threshold for fishiness

Thank you, Grumpy. That's what I feared and why I wanted your opinion.

Thank you, Grumpy. That's what I feared and why I wanted your opinion.

Nimbus Notes head office, according to their website, is in Delaware. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of their security, Grumpy. (That stuff still makes no sense to me unless translated to English...tech speech is not, IMO, English. Oh sure, I recogize a word here and there, but mostly it may as well be Martian for all the sense it makes to me.

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I see both of you gents are feeling a little cheeky today.

Wow! That sounds like a great idea and I'm sure other educators will find it most helpful. Thanks so much for sharing!

Frank, allow me to say how happy I am since you joined the forum...now I don't feel nearly as bad about my longer posts...

Thanks for clarifying!

Thanks for clarifying!

Okay, just chiming in here as a non-tech minded user. It's a small thing and I'm sure no offense was actually intended, but...

Using the metaphor of "even a 1st year or 2nd year computer science student could do it" (I'm paraphrasing here) is akin to saying "so easy even an idiot could do it!" It's a tad insulting and a bit demeaning.

Remember, just because something might be simple and obvious to you, does not mean it is to everyone else.

Hi Jay and Dave,

As Gazumped pointed out a few posts back, there's no way to tell when or IF such a feature will ever be implemented by Evernote. Folks have been asking for a collapsible outlining ability for years now and there's still no indication that it's under consideration for future releases.

In fact, over the last year their company focus seems to be gearered more than ever towards the corparate world. If you look at the Evernote.com website, you'll notice the "Remember Everything" as their tagline has been dropped in favour of promoting EN Accounts as a Virtual Workstation, with an emphasis on collaboration through use of Chat Feature options.

That's not to say they've deprecated the app's notetaking ability or completely dropped the notion of using EN as a virtual filing cabinet for all your digital data. They've de-emphasised filing cabinet metaphor, but it still functions as such.

My best suggestion in both your cases is to take a look at WorkFlowy, a free, online outliner app that has the ability to collapse and expand text and lists. They've been around for years and come highly recommended by other users on this forum. WorkFlowly also intergrates nicely with Evernote. Below is a the link to their sign-up page:

https://workflowy.com/

This below is one of many user made videos available on YouTube, showing some of the cool things you can do with WorkFlowy.

WorkFlowy: How to Stay Productive and Get More Done, by Eric Heavilin:

http://youtu.be/Oo8grkujGd8

Hope this helps!

Collapsible list items are one thing I miss from Omnioutliner. On many topics -- from business strategy to research -- I frequently have the need to embed details into my note. Collapsible list items would allow me to do this while retaining the ability to collapse the details to see the big picture.

+1 from me, too. I use a packing list for travel, and have several different sections based on the type of trip. I'd like to collapse the types that aren't currently relevant.

Thanks for considering.

Jay

Hi. I have no idea if this will help anyone or not, but thought I'd chime in just in case. I'm a free user with plans to upgrade to Premium by early to mid next week.

I work primarily from my Android phone (SG3), and have for about a year. Since the latest Android update, I have lost no data and had no problems editing or moving notes (to another Notebook).

That said, while I use it nearly every day, I am not a power user. I frequently edits the same notes repeatedly over hours, days, weeks and even months. Here's my workflow on both my Android phone and my Windows laptop:

* I never log-out on ether device, ever.

* As soon as I open Evernote on either device, I manually Sync DOWN from the EN Servers.

* While working in EN on the Android app, if I'm spending more than 2 or 3 minutes in one note, I use the Save feature - NOT to be confused with the Sync function - which can be accessed by tapping on the three vertical dots in the upper right corner of the screen in any open note. (Pre-existing ones open once you tap the Green Circle icon, which opens the note in Edit Mode.)

* The same is true for any notes you are currently creating. In either case once you tap those three vertical dots when in an open note, two options come up - Save and Settings - tap Save. i.e.

If I am making extensive edits to a pre-existing note, I will tap Save after every few edits - big or small. I do the same if I'm creating a note with a lot of text.

I tap Save or Sync, one last time before moving onto another note, be it to another pre-existing note or to create a new one.

(I don't recall if the latest Windows app as the Save feature of note. But if not and you also use Windows, I recommend manually Syncing every five minute or so. More if you adding or editing a Note's content fast and/or for a long period of time. Regardless, the local copy of your Evernote Database on your desktop's hardrive should save any changes or additions until you can successfully Sync UP to the EN Servers.)

* Before I close or exit out of Evernote I manually Sync UP to the EN Servers.

Then I check to be certain my final Sync was successful before exiting or closing Evernote. If not, I locate and deal with any Note Conflicts that might have occurred, and try Syncing again.

There has been a few times I couldn't connect to the servers, but I just kept trying every few minutes until I could.

So to re-cap the essential points:

1) When opening EN from ANY device (client), you ALWAYS first *manually* Sync DOWN from the EN Servers.

2) When working in Evernote from ANY device (client) for any extended period of time, you should utilize the Save (where available, such as on Android) and/or the Sync functions, frequently.

Just remember that Evernote is NOT like MS Word that autosaves versions of your work every couple minutes as work in case of a power failure or a computer crash. You have to be diligent using the tools EN provides - auto-Syncing set to a schedule you set, manual Syncing at any time, and in Android at least, the option to Save your work until you can next Sync it UP to the Servers - to ensure Evernote always has the most current version of all your notes available for you to access from any device you use it on.

3) Before closing or exiting out of Evernote - NOT to be confused with Signing-out - MANUALLY Sync UP to the EN Servers. Then check to be sure you've had a successful Sync.

Or, to put it in terms of old school video games kill monster or baddy and immediately Save. Kill more monsters or baddies and Save again!

Cheers.