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  1. Since you're a big fan of information perhaps you'd like to share with the rest of the class your evidence that EN is indeed "clawing back to offer working v10 clients." Because a lot of people keep using words like "slow", "buggy", and the like. When someone complains they find 10.6.9 unusable on a Mac that is in fact useful information. It might not be at the level of detail to help developers fix problems or to warn users which particular features to avoid, but it's not the ****ing job of paying customers to help a company debug software that should never have been released in such a state.
  2. As Grand Moff Tarkin once put it, you're far too trusting. Once you've concluded that v10 should have been presented as a preview/beta/work-in-progress instead of as "the new Evernote" you have to ask yourself, why was it released in that shape? The missing features people have complained about aren't bugs, they're design decisions. Ditto for the font choice limitations, etc. So why should we believe that the company will "fix things" when management has already given the green light to reduced functionality? It seems to me there are three explanations for the premature v10 release: 1) ma
  3. Alas, at the bottom of the page describing the Legacy version (i.e., the way it used to work) it says it's only for the Mac OS and Windows versions: In theory one could side load an earlier version on Android. If you/I/we had known how bad things would get we could have saved the earlier version of the application, its APK file. It would be easy for them to deny access to our information on their servers if it detected an earlier version however. UPDATE: A web search revealed a site with an archive of older versions: apkpure.com. I'm sure there are others. How much you're wi
  4. Never attribute to malice that which may be explained by incompetency. And shipping v10 before it was ready and then leading people to believe it was ready is not a sign of competence at the top. Ian Small may indeed be the CEO the company needs to survive. I am certain however that I can't take his or the company's promises on faith. As to tags, I use them as just one example of missing functionality. Tags may not be a big deal for me or you. They've been around forever though and I have yet to hear anyone make a case that they shouldn't have been put in the product in first place. Indee
  5. If they are able to make improvements so quickly then why were they in such a rush to release it? It arrived with a bunch of problems that should have been caught in QA. Not to mention it was missing features that people rely on for their workflow. To be fair, I highly doubt the developers were in a rush to release something so unfinished. That was almost certainly a management decision driven by a CEO who didn't think tag support was a big deal.
  6. Welcome, kinsman! There doesn't seem to be a drop in replacement at present, so your options are limited by what you most value in what's now branded as the Legacy version. If you are happy with a product that only works on Mac OS and iOS, for example, then DEVONthink is worth looking at. Reviewing the previous comments in this thread will provide numerous other candidates, again depending on what capabilities you most need/want and which EN capabilities you could easily live without. I am currently testing Joplin because it appears adequate to my needs even if it falls far short for othe
  7. This comment would be more useful if you indicated how EN users could more productively manage their information. If you were trying to encapsulate the current attitude of EN corporate management, however, then full marks. Indeed. EN is a useful tool because it provides easy access to a database's information, its organization, and its presentation. Crippling those abilities in favor of a new facade is expecting customers to accept an inferior product. Telling customers they shouldn't be using a product as they have been using it for years is at the core of the problems many of us hav
  8. Yeah, the majority of the posts in this thread are assessing v10 as "not ready". The company could have avoided a lot of drama and ill will if they had offered it as a preview/testing/beta release. Instead the email I got announced "The new Evernote for Windows has landed." There were no disclaimers. As the poet noted, "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." To which I'd simply add that once lost, customer trust is not easily regained. I think your practice of regular offline backups is wise. So is holding back on client updates until some of the dust has settled. And yo
  9. I wholeheartedly agree. I only refer people to that list so they know some alternatives exist, not to endorse particular choices or to pretend that 25guy's criteria are definitive. A program might tick a feature box but that's no guarantee that the feature has been implemented well after all. And while I personally have a lingering fondness for programmable folding editors (Leo, Org-Mode) and simple tools like TiddlyWiki I would never seriously suggest them to people as replacements for EN. (Indeed, I would strongly prefer to just keep using EN Legacy, but that option isn't one I have much co
  10. I've been pointing people to 25guy's list of Evernote alternatives. The short answer for those happy to live in Apple's walled garden seems to be DEVONthink. For the rest of us our best choice greatly depends on the features we consider essential to our workflow. My use of tags and text formatting is rudimentary when compared to the way others here use EN, for example, so Joplin is at the top of my evaluation list. Others in this thread have found Joplin's lack of <X> to be a deal breaker and so are looking at other options. I have yet to hear of an alternative to EN that won't take some
  11. I don't see much hysteria but I do see a tsunami of ****** off customers. It's true that the legacy version is stable. It's also true that EN management has deliberately chosen to not guarantee that stable version will work for a set period of time. Why? It's clear to everyone that v10 was simply not ready for release. Worse, people who've tried the pretty but barely functional v10 have lost hours/days of work from changes to their notes thanks the new software. There's no good reason that should have happened. And I wouldn't describe the other emotion as hysteria so much as desperation -
  12. I already have Android, Linux, and Windows machines in my life so I'm somewhat skeptical of adding Mac/iOS devices to the mix to simplify my life. However my Ryzen desktop machine has more cores than I normally use and plenty of RAM, so perhaps a Mac VM? No, that way lies madness.
  13. When 25guy created his long list of Evernote alternatives DEVONthink was at the top of the list as the only criteria he found lacking of 12 was cross-platform support. The three programs tied for second place were EN Legacy edition, Joplin, and Keep It (another Mac & iOS exclusive). I have a growing fear that EN's future development will force me to rethink my workflow -- and possibly split my migration efforts into multiple applications.
  14. You start with a promise of significant changes coming soon and finish by saying (in effect) Legacy app downloads can disappear as soon as those changes arrive. Which is simply a more positively phrased version of what's already been said. It's a bit like me saying I'm committed to losing weight until my weight changes. If the company is truly committed there should be no problem promising the Legacy app will continue to sync without new bugs through, say, 2021. But such a promise would in effect be supporting the legacy app, wouldn't it? So aside from a reaffirmation of the previously announc
  15. I wound up searching these forums today because the new "improved" Windows app didn't know how to add terms to the dictionary for some reason. I find it reassuring that others hate the new app but the different issues they're reporting is disconcerting. It's a fundamental rule of the Linux kernel developers that things they change under the hood of Linux should never create issues for existing user software. Would that the Evernote crew subscribed to similar reasoning with their UI "upgrades". I understand the appeal and/or necessity of moving to a unified UI and minimizing the difference
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