ObviousBob

I have been playing around with a new note app called Craft. The initial release was late last year, so within the timeframe of the release of Evernote 10. Craft is a pleasure to use on my iPhone, and especially on my iPad with its large screen. It is completely gesture based - like with v10, you can select and format text, but you can also reorder lines of text, or whole paragraphs, by dragging them around with your finger. It is an app that was built with the idea of mobile first - it fully uses the capabilities provided by a mobile operating system. And of course what you can do with your finger on an iPad, you can do with a mouse on a MacOS device (it is Apple only). My point isn't to recommend Craft over Evernote - it can only do a subset of what Evernote does, so it won't be enough for many users. But it makes me think that even when v10 has finally fixed all these initial problems that we are all complaining about, Evernote will still be behind the curve, because it is basically a computer app that also runs on mobile. So for those of us who use mobile devices as our primary device, Evernote is still going to seem old fashioned and not as mobile friendly as many contemporary mobile apps. Perhaps most Evernote users are computer only, or computer first. V10 features seem to show up first on MacOS, not iOS. But I think the future belongs to mobile, not the desktop.

I see this all the time on iOS. One of the reasons I've stopped using it as my primary note taker.. I'm guessing this is some sort of sync issue - my offline Notebooks won't finish downloading on iOS, so there is no local copy of many of my notes, so they have to be fetched from the server, and it can take forever to do so..

I also found the glimpse of "Home" to be intriguing, but what is more important to me is when I open a note on my iPhone, the note actually appears. And that offline Notebooks actually download to my iPad. Get the basics working, then give us the new stuff..

Unfortunately, this was not made clear when v10 was released. So now most everyone on iOS is stuck. Evernote acted in bad faith not warning us there was no going back and not providing a legacy alternative like they did on MacOS.

Well, in fact it is mandatory if you use iOS. The legacy app has been available on MacOS and Windows for many weeks. On iOS, there is no practical way around having to use the "improved" version.

That graph is pretty interesting, even if others are right that it isn't definitive. Its also curious that there isn't a recent bump in interest with the new releases (or maybe the graph doesn't go out far enough..). Another thing I've noticed but can't really quantify is that there is a definite lack of interest from the tech press.. back in the day, a new Evernote would be big news, with lots of reviews. Haven't seen the same thing this time around.

Under Settings, Display & Brightness you can set your Display Zoom to "Zoomed". When you do, Evernote enlarges the font as it supposed to, but cuts off the display at the top and bottom. All Apple apps do the zoom display correctly, using the entire screen, as do most other apps I tried: Fantastical, Bear, New York Times, Spark, Reddit.. well, you get the picture. Perhaps a nit compared to all the other problems with Evernote on iOS, but one I potentially see everyday.

Interesting.. speed (other than opening the app) on my iPhone XS is fine, but on my 2017 iPad everything in Evernote is slow. Running the latest versions of Evernote and iOS/iPadOS.

Not to mention that the iPad version is much slower than the iPhone version. Makes me wonder if there are some iPadOS specific changes that need to be made.

I agree the default font is too small on iOS (and there is no way to change it). But something that is much improved in v10 is pinch to zoom - you can enlarge the note and continue viewing or editing. Doing this with the "old" Evernote didn't work very well because it kept reverting to the default size, but now it holds whatever size you zoom to.

Yes, I see this on my phone all the time. I think if I zoom a note, from then on other notes will open zoomed, even if I had un-zoomed the original note. Not sure if it happens every time, and it stops at some point - maybe when I close the app or switch to another.

OK. How do you want me to do that? I tried to drag the web clip here but that didn't work..

Most, if not all, of my web clips have no blank lines between paragraphs, so the text runs together. I just tried it with articles from Medium and NYT to be sure. The clipping was done on iOS as was viewing the results. I also found that If I cut from the web clip and and paste into this window, the appropriate blank lines are inserted.. so maybe it is a display issue in Evernote?

I have a note with 4 .jpgs, that was created long ago. Last evening, when I wanted to look at the note on my iPhone, the images were not available - they looked like below. I immediately went to my Mac desktop, opened the same note, and no problem, all four images were there. This morning I opened the same note, and two of the images were visible, two had the error shown below. A few hours later, all four images were visible, as they should be. The note is in a offline notebook, and Evernote indicated that notebook was completely downloaded some time ago. I am at a loss here. I opened a note on my phone, but the contents were incomplete. This makes it pretty tough to rely on this version of Evernote

I went back and read your post and I agree we are talking about the same thing. Syncing - which is completely out of the users control - doesn't seem to be happening frequently enough. Except it usually works, but there is no way of knowing until it is too late..

Yes, very much so. But the idea of sync errors being "written off" is scary. Hard to rely on an app where sync isn't reliable. And since I can't go back to the previous version on iOS where sync WAS reliable, does it make sense to keep using the app in its present state?

Working on my iPad, I edited an existing note - I went thru and made a few words Bold. I then shut the iPad, went about my business for a while. Later, I picked up my iPhone, opened the same note, and my changes weren't there - nothing in bold. So I opened up my iPad, which was still on the same note, and I could see the words I had made bold - for about a second, then they all reverted to normal text. So somehow my changes were discarded or overwritten (I don't remember if I made changes to the note on my phone). This is scary - have other changes I've made in other notes gone too? No way to know. Anyone else seen this behavior?

Running Evernote 10 on an iPhone, iPad and iMac. Performance on the phone is fine, same for the desktop. But very slow on the iPad. Not a new iPad mind you, but the 2017 model, not that old. Anyone else see this?

This works with the web version, but I didn't think it worked on iOS. I hope it eventually does.. same code base, right?

I am finding after an initial issue, that the duplicate note problem is gone for me with 10.0.2 But downloading several small (less than 50 notes) offline folders has still not completed after many hours.. this would take a few minutes with the "old" Evernote.

After an hour of creating and deleting notes, I haven't gotten any more duplicates. So maybe the first time was a fluke? I also saved a full text web clip from the NYT, which previously was only getting a link. So maybe they fixed that too - I think maybe previously it failed due to requiring a subscription, which I have.

I happened to be on my iPad when this post showed up, so I immediately downloaded it, created a new note.. ..and got a duplicate. While I'm impressed they got two releases out this week, it is increasingly frustrating that Evernote remains silent about the bugs in 10.X and doesn't even tell us what they are fixing in these two releases. I can't really use the app the way it is now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEioUvE52To&feature=youtu.be Interesting insights into the "new" Evernote. First confirmation I have seen regarding the use of Java Script and Electron. Even talks about Notion and other competitors. But no mention of issues with the 10.X release.

Actually, Bear also works this way - you must open the app on the device where you save the clip for it to propagate to other devices. Ironically, this was one of the reasons I wanted to return to Evernote..

Created a new note on my iPad, got 3 duplicates and the note conflict message. So that wasn't fixed..