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  1. Evernote is filtering out my forwarded email using subject: @notebook. Can this spam filtering be turned off? If I cannot rely 100% on items I forward to my own notebooks arriving, then this functionality is pretty much useless. I use EN to SAVE time not waste it. As it is I have to forward and then sync and confirm it's actually received by EN. Would't a more reasonable control be to limit the addresses (as an option) which are allowed to forward to my EN address?
  2. Suddenly I'm getting notices when this thread is updated. Anyone know how to turn that off? At any rate, I had no idea this thread carried on as it did. Yikes. My overall impression is that this is a pretty dysfunctional "community" with a lot of ego involvement. My human to human advice would be to take a step back, re read this thread and think about how much is actually useful dialog and how much is just sparring and chest-beating. Is that really a good investment of your time? The essence of helping someone is kindness, not criticism. Not that I was asking for help in the first place. My initial post didn't request help, it was a feature request. My suggestion for the future would be that when next you see a feature request, say nothing unless you are trying to HELP refine, clarify or build upon the request. Why would I, or anyone else, be interested in why an "evangelist" thinks my feature request is all wet?
  3. another way would be to allow me to place a one-word password on the notebook without registration and usernames. Which I could make as simple as I want.
  4. "Otherwise, there would be NO security, and ANYONE, including someone you didn't invite, merely by discovering that link, could go in and modify or delete content at will." Simple. The invitee in the not logged-in state cannot erase anything only ADD to a notebook. Add, notes, comments, etc. I'm not too worried about graffiti because I would be sending the link to people I know and not posting it someplace.
  5. "As to the requirement for people to sign up for an Evernote account in order to edit, I'm guessing that this will not go away. Evernote are in the business of adding customers, they believe that the more customers they add and the longer they are retained the more likely they are to go Premium. " I understand that. It's central to my point. There would be more potential for growth if the barrier was put up in a different place. It would be better if my clients could collaborate with me on my notebooks (I'm guessing here that this is the purpose of shared notebooks in the first place) without being EN members. Require membership when they (my clients) want to start making their own notebooks to share with others. That's how Dropbox grew so rapidly. No login or membership was required to receive a file. Only to send files... So lots of people were exposed to the value of the product without hassle or cost, it makes more sense to monazite a customer at the point that they want to begin to send files rather than the more passive receiving of files. (n the case of Dropbox). Likewise, invitees to EN should have no barriers - make it easy for them. Later, when they have discovered the usefulness and want to start using the product to reach other collaborators, then require membership. I get why EN has the paywall (or membership wall), it's just in exactly the wrong place.
  6. "If there were no restriction on who could edit your notes and how they could be edited" The necessary restrictions are already part of the product. I can share a notebook with anyone I want and give them the permissions I want. Only they have to JOIN and Login in order to share the notebook. Restrictions are not the issue.
  7. "I would imagine it would be far worse for you if you customers (your bosses) started editing a note at the same time and then caused a mass of confusion. This is the reality of Evernote as a 'collaboration' tool." I don't understand this point. an invitee can, as of now with the current EN, edit a shared notebook. With all the mass confusion that may or may not cause. Only, in order to do so, they must join EN. My quibble is not with how the sharing function works. It's only the requirement for a login and joining.
  8. "First, EN is not really a collaboration tool... " Oddly, then, it offers invitee's the ability to collaborate on notebooks, but only after joining EN. Seems like some form of collaboration to me. Here's my issue. When an invitee follows the link to a shared notebook they cannot contribute to it UNTIL they join EN. There is a membership boundary placed at that point - you cannot contribute until you join. I'm suggesting this limits the growth and usefulness of the EN product. I won't ask my clients (my bosses) to jump through hoops in order to add notes and comments to my shared notebooks. They simply won't do it and I won't ask. If, however, I could let them add to shared notebooks simply by being invited (URL based without login) they would do it. And they most likely would see the value of EN in time and then join when they themselves wanted to start sharing notebooks with others. "If you need a true collaboration tool, Evernote is not it. " The best uses of tools are the ones users invent themselves with the tools, not the pre-determined limited uses the product may have been intended for. "Third, many people seem to think their one missing "killer feature" would cause EN to become the be all/end all thing that will zoom EN from the current 60+ million users it has today, increase profits by a billion dollars in a month, etc. " and? How is your opinion or value judgement on my comment germane to the discussion at hand?
  9. I collaborate with dozens and dozens of clients and colleagues on scores of projects per year. Evernote COULD be the backbone of that collaboration process. But it has one fatal flaw and I can't use it. When I share a notebook to a non-Evernote Member they cannot participate in the collaboration. It's "read-only". That's a killer. I cannot ask clients and colleagues to install software and join a service that *I* am forcing on them. They would happily follow a link and participate from the website but I cannot ask them to join. You should adopt a model like Dropbox whereby non-member users can use the service fully but cannot INITIATE new projects themselves without joining. I could be introducing your product to hundreds of people per year. Many of them would see the value in using it for their OTHER projects and THAT'S when they'd join - after they've seen the value and when they want to start using it to collaborate with others. A read-only collaboration is of ZERO use to me when collaborating with my clients.
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