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  1. Kwatah, I think there's room for a middle ground here. I understand your prior difficulties with an interface that felt too extreme. There were previously strong contrasts of green, white, brown, in the OSX EN interface etc that did seem harsh or dark to some people. I loved it, but no style is everyone's cup o' joe. However, the current design has gone too far the other way. Too many people - myself included - find it totally washed out, with so little contrast between text and background that it's often hard to read. Legibility shouldn't be optional. Also, there is no green whatesoever, not even a single little green elephant. Tossing out your main identifying colors is a marketing mistake. Yet Evernote has done a good job on the Windows and Web interface and a spectacular job on the Android interface - haven't seen the iPhone interface lately. So Evernote does know how to design an interface that is gentle on the eyes yet legible and visually captivating. Does Evernote employ the same design team for Windows, Android, OSx and iOX? If not, do the teams compare notes? They should.
  2. Talking about other interfaces that do it right - we need look no further than Evernote itself. The iOS and Android newest versions of Evernote are great - I have a Samsung and just upgraded to version 6 for Android. The functionality is awesome and the interface is beautiful, simple, clear, and easy to read: http://blog.evernote.com/blog/2014/09/04/new-evernote-6-android/ Contrast the visual qualities of the Android and Mac interface: Top Menu Bar: Android: Bright green, with signature elephant icon - when you click on a new level (note, notebook, etc,) the icon changes to give you clear, bright visual cues Mac: Gray, no elephant in sight Side Bar Android: clear black on white icons that turn green when you click then Mac: gray icons that turn blue when you click on them (blue??) Functionality Icons (note formating, attach, audio, camera, etc.) Android: Beautiful, elegant green icons that pop out upon clicking the green + icon (the "floating" new note button) Mac: Dull, very faint, hard to see icons at top of new note - very light gray upon gray Yes, the new Mac design is simpler and not so distracting. Yes, it's lighter. Fine. But the EN Mac team needs to take a trip down the hallway and look at what the Android and iOS teams are doing. Mac users are traditionally more visually oriented - I'd like EN to remember that and judiciously add color to the current interface - Yosemite transparency doesn't count.
  3. @greenprell The complaints are about the Mac Interface. I use both Mac and Windows and have no problems with the EN Windows, nor have I heard of any dissatisfaction from anyone else. Evernote has simplified the Mac layout very much from the prior versions, presenting a cleaner interface. As I understand, their goal is to create a more distraction-free environment. To that end, I applaud them. However, I feel they went too far. Completely eliminating any color, including their signature green, makes it harder for most people to visually organize and see what they have, in addition to eliminating a powerful branding tool. I believe the reason for this is to make the EN interface more compatible with Yosemite's transparency function. but if you have transparency turned off, don't like the effect, or have an earlier OS, that purpose is moot. We don't need to return to a skeuomorphic or "big green elephant" paradigm; all the EN design team needs to do is align the new Mac design more with the Windows, iOS, and Android interfaces, which would also create continuity among platforms. Continuity is important for me because I work in different platforms, and hence need a cloud based information system like Evernote. I will not be switching to another information capture/sharing program - Evernote's functionality, including the large number of tools such as Web Clipper and the tight integration with 3rd party software make it a winner for me. One Note, etc. doesn't even come close. I've made my points clear here on this forum and to the EN support team (who were encouraging and positive) and will continue to do so. I have faith in Evernote's desire to make a superior product.
  4. Update on reinstalling earlier version: procedure didn't work (for my client.) We found and deleted the data file on his Mac and reinstalled 5.7, but we received the same error message. How could this be? Client has most recent EN on PC and tablet - could the web file been upgraded, rendering 5.7 useless? Can someone refer me to current information about how Evernote updates its data files to work with different numbered versions? Specifically, if a user has EN on several platforms, and opts out of automatic updating on all of them, will they not be able to access their data when new versions come out?
  5. Correction - the message you will receive (if you try to go back to a prior version) is that your local Evernote data is being managed by a newer version of Evernote and to please use the latest version.
  6. An earlier poster mentioned going back to a previous version after having installed 6.0.x. This is not possible. You will receive an error message that the current data file does not work with the newest version.
  7. I'm confining my comments about the new Mac 6.0.x interface to concerns about color, or lack thereof. I posted a more detailed discussion here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/77432-evernote-mac-60-hate-the-new-interface/page-3 To sum up the points made at the other page, color plays a huge role in our lives. Among other things, it 1) creates Brand Recognition, 2) helps us visually process, organize, and filter information and 3) interacts with our emotions in a very fundamental way. Ignoring color in the design of a software interface flies in the face of thousands of years of human evolution. The Evernote design team can create an updated, modern looking interface without sacrificing the marketing, organizational, and emotional power of color.
  8. I understand the design theory behind simpler, cleaner interfaces and the need to update to match Yosemite, but with EN Mac 6, Evernote has taken the minimalist stance too far. My greatest complaint is lack of color. Evernote designers, please consider the following: 1. Pay attention to brand recognition! Not a spot of green is to be seen. No little green elephant icon in the top left. No light green background at the left. Green elephants and the color green are Evernote's brand signatures. You don't go changing and/or eliminating basic branding. Marketing 101, folks. 2. Respect user needs for visual cues. Humanity evolved for thousands and thousands of years in color rich/color variable environments: blue skies, green vistas, the tan hide of a deer, the bright yellow of a field of daffodils . . . We are wired to respond to color around us to help us organize, process, and filter information. Just because we are hunting information on the Internet instead of big game in the field hasn't changed our visual relationship to color. Creating a bland, gray, colorless interface increases confusion. Evernote has 2 basic colors: green and gray. Alot can be done with color using variations on the theme, as in prior versions: dark green, bright green, light green, light gray, dark gray. You can add one other color such as bright blue, to highlight certain things, without creating confusion by the use of too much color. Right now, it is much harder for me to tell business from personal notebooks and navigate other aspects of the interface. Color is a language. Use it. 3. Don't ignore aesthetics and emotion I use Evernote to help me process and manage information - a largely mental experience. However, we all have an emotional component which responds, among other things, to color. Look at the billions of dollars spent each year on products and advertising that employs color. Practically the entire marketing world! And, historically, Mac users are more visually oriented [reference needed here, but I'm confident that's correct] Creating a dull, colorless environment for EN Mac is counterintuitive and counterproductive and for me at least, creates a subtle emotional drain upon my experience of the program.
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