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  1. For the FIFTH time, what is it that makes you think we will have advance notice???
  2. OneNote is horrible! I looked at it for 5 minutes and realized it was to Evernote what Notepad is to Word. Having said that, Notion does have my interest. Its web clipper SUCKS compared to Evernote, but it does everything else as good, or better, than Evernote. Right now I am working on a massive home remodeling project, and thus don't have much desire to play with migrating over. And, the problem isn't that the migration is difficult--Notion makes it dirt simple. The problem is than Notion is to Evernote as Word is to Notepad--Notion does a lot of things and has a lot of options for how to set up and "type" each individual folder. That means I want to study it and think a bit before I pull the trigger. By analogy, Notion will copy my floor-plan I currently have over to the new location, but it will also allow me to radically change the floor-plan to include sunken indoor swimming pools, elevators, automated kitchens, etc, etc... Truth be told, I might not need, or have use for, a lot of its features, but I'd like to dig a bit before I take the plunge. However, having said that, the solution I will leaning towards is to use Evernote's web clipper to pull in web pages, and then import then over to Notion for hierarchical storage and retrieval. Should Notion get a good web clipper, or Evernote get nested folders, that equation changes. Oh, for how bad the Notion web clipper is--it sucks as hard as OneNote's. It is simply not usable. Yet.
  3. True, but irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Unlike a television show, which is idle entertainment consumption, a records database* requires you to pretty much commit to it because time spent working on one precludes you form working on the other. Since entertainment is designed to fill empty time, you can watch multiple shows. However, with work, there are usually a limited amount of hours per week one can spend on such, and thus opting into one product often precludes you form working on another. Thus, it is valuable to investigate the competing products and learn what you can about them, and this includes back and forth debate by various users. I will grant you that said debate over the merits and failings of a product really upset the fanboys, but that is their problem. *Calling Evernote a "note taking app" is accurate, technically. However, it is a little like calling Word a "keystroke recorder". Evernote is more than you just jotting down your notes--it is also a way of recording and organizing a vast amount of information created by other people. Indeed, the vast majority of my records are not notes at all, since I did not write anything into them.
  4. OH! I am SHOCKED you have such a poor opinion of him! He made a statement, and I am certain he has a totally justifiable basis for his belief that Evernote will slice its own throat by ignoring the advice of its bankruptcy attorneys and will give us all advance warning it will file for Bankruptcy. Surely you don't believe he made that statement from the gut and without factual basis!
  5. I never thought I would see the day when people openly argued that facts were a bad thing and hating them is a good thing.... Oh, BTW: You are free to engage in whatever conversation you wish. You have chosen to engage in this one. Worse, instead of engaging in the conversation in this thread about archiving, migrating, and porting, you have decided to jump into a side-conversation you claim to hate, and participate in it without adding anything constructive.
  6. Fact: If you are not enjoying a TV show, you can change the channel. Fact: The majority of posts in here are dealing with the nuances of archiving, restoring, and moving Evernote records. Fact: A lot of people have commented on how entertaining this thread is to them. Fact: Your granny had a sense of humor--you do not.
  7. For the FOURTH time: "For Evernote's demise, I'm confident we'll have advance notice and can take appropriate action" WHAT is it that makes you think you will have advance notice?
  8. You are about 390 years to late for that joke. http://www.memorialpages.co.uk/articles/decomposition.php
  9. You are avoiding the question--again. You said: "For Evernote's demise, I'm confident we'll have advance notice and can take appropriate action" I have asked you TWICE before what is it that makes you confident you will have advance notice. BOTH times you have answered that you won't be affected if the servers drop. I even gave you the opportunity last time to simply man up and admit you mis-spoke, and you have nothing to base your "confidence" on. You opted to not take it. So, for the THIRD time--what is it that gives you, as per your own words, "advance notice"?
  10. Actually, in truth, Shakespeare said things very plainly for plays at the time. He used the common language of the common man for most of his metaphors. It is the drifting of the language over time that no makes his text seem haughty. Take for example, "Why, she's neither fish nor flesh; a man knows not where to have her." Of course the audience laughs when Flastaff says that, and then laughs harder when the hostess retorts: "Thou art an unjust man in saying so. Thou or any man knows where to have me, thou knave, thou." I mean, what BETTER way to have Falstaff describe her as a cross between ***** (a woman who has ***** for money) and ***** (a woman who does not charge for it but does it almost as often)? And he does it by taking the common (at that time) phrase "“neither fish, nor flesh, nor good red herring" and turning it into sexual innuendo! No wonder the rabble loved Shakespeare's plays--he spoke THEIR language. Or, "melancholy as a moor ditch"? Is there anything MORE melancholy than a moor ditch? No, of course not. And the rabble loved the fact Shakespeare was bringing in toilet humor that they recognized! And, of course, my personal favorite--Titus Andronicus--the main course at the dinner party? Oh my god! Roman generals, power struggles, and then unknowing cannibalism of one's own offspring! Shakespeare was Monty Python's Holy Grail, Benny Hill, and Hammer Horror Films all rolled in to one! *Stupid Evernote obscenity filters!
  11. Why do you expect ME to walk away, when you just walked up? Is that something that happens in real life a lot, and you have grown accustomed to it?
  12. An yet here you are, participating... "The lad doth protest too much, methinks" That is a paraphrase from Shakespeare. He is a famous English playwright. Here is some information on him: https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Shakespeare
  13. You act as if I have not already acknowledged that several times over. Do tell, did you READ this thread before jumping into it?
  14. Such is your right! And, it is probably totally in line with all of your other decisions--ignore what you don't like because you don't like HOW the message was delivered. Who would I be to expect you to change?
  15. No. Your exact quote was, "For Evernote's demise, I'm confident we'll have advance notice and can take appropriate action Again, in direct response to your assertion you would have advance notice of Evernote's demise, I am asking you specifically: Based upon the fact that the majority of privately held companies give NO advance notice of closing up shop, what is it that makes you confident? That is what I am asking. Nothing more, nothing less. No questions as to whether or not you think you will fine when they pull the plug--just, what is it that makes you think they will tell the world--or you specifically--that they are about to pull the plug. Now, if you want to say you mis-spoke, that is fine. Just do so. But if you did not, I would sure like to know what gives you such confidence.
  16. Not the lord's work--my work. When I say something, and someone else "corrects" me with incorrect information, there is no way I am allowing that to happen. If I make a mistake, and it does happen, you pile on all you want--that is the price for being wrong. but to correct me with incorrect information or statements? Nope, that won't slide by. Look all the trite insults I let slide by. I don't know any of you people, so, frankly, I care as little about your opinions of me as you do my opinions of you. But when when someone tries to correct me with mis-information? Nope, not going to happen.
  17. Based upon the fact that the majority of privately held companies give NO advance notice of closing up shop, what is it that makes you confident? I mean, once it is apparent to Evernote that they are closing up shop, it is in their best interests to keep everyone else in the dark up to the moment they pull the plug.
  18. Nice diversion attempt. The reality of this debate is I post the way things are, you try to find an exception to prove it doesn't apply to you (which is semantics on YOUR part), and then I steer us back to the way the rest of the world--and your own past-posts--view the subject.
  19. 1. But you DO make them knowing they guard against other events, correct? 2. Don't be so confident. Privately held companies have a nasty habit of not announcing they are going bankrupt because they are usually hoping that some planned "Hail Mary" play will save them. Look to the Montgomery Ward bankruptcy as a textbook (literally) example. Companies do NOT announce faltering fortunes because to do so speeds up the process (executives lose their paychecks sooner) and pretty much guarantees the company's death. Usually, as a company is winding down, management is stripping as much out of the company as possible while surreptitiously looking for employment elsewhere. If you look at how bankruptcies happen in the service and retail sectors, consumer rarely get any advance notice. In fact, that is why Sunday is the most ideal day for companies to file for Bankruptcy... https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/08/why-do-companies-always-file-for-bankruptcy-on-sundays.html Your confidence runs contrary to reality.... When Evernote goes belly up, in all likelihood, you will find out about it by a notice that you cannot connect to the Evernote database, and asking if you would like to work offline.
  20. You've already acknowledged your data is safe against Evernote's demise because you have your own back-ups. Unless this was some new concept to you that you only became aware of the possibility of Evernote failing as a company because *I* informed you of it, your backups were made prepping for that and all other eventualities which you acknowledge are within the realm of realistically feasible problems. Do tell, you roof, is it Saran Wrap? How about a thin piece of glass? No? Do you, like most people have a roof that you can walk on? Probably. We build our homes for the purpose of protecting us from all realistically probable harm--including rain, snow, lightning, the occasional tree branch, etc, etc... You have been reduced to actually arguing that you would NEVER even consider protecting your data against anything major, because it is unlikely to happen. You are actually arguing that you would never even consider insuring your assets from acts of god of terrorist attack. Well, you know who DOES consider such eventualities? Your insurance company that, in all likelihood, specifically excluded acts of god and terrorist attacks from your base insurance policy, and probably wanted an increased premium to do so! Come on--this is what you have reduced yourself to--trying to come up with a specific very unlikely event and arguing that because you have never contemplated that event, you are not backing up your data for disaster preparedness. Well, whether you intend to do so or not, the act os properly backing up your data, and keeping copies in separate locations, is disaster preparedness. When you make a copy of your data, do you take that copy and leave it sitting on top of the computer? No? You move it to a separate location? Don't want to have a fire consume your HD and your back-up media, do ya? Psst... a fire is technically a disaster when it wasn't planned and it consumed something you didn't want it to consume. Might only be a small disaster if it is a small fire, but it is still a disaster. So, you can continue to argue you are not doing disaster preparedness, but you are going to have to make yourself look more and more foolish--or dishonest--by arguing the long list of things you are specifically not protecting against. Also, it is a good thing you are not putting up your roof to guard against meteorites--they come THROUGH roofs. Chunks of rock sturdy enough to survive entry into our atmosphere travelling 87m/sec* tend to do that. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/meteorite-uruguay-break-house-how-rare *194.61 MPH -- And since you mentioned the Ann Hodges strike, you should already have known they travel fast enough to shred virtually any roof if they are much larger than a marble, since it went through her roof and THEN struck her. Hint: If you decide to argue you don't put up drywall to stop .50 bullets, I will applaud that decision--they have a nasty habit going through several inches of wood. *
  21. You were trying to say you weren't making your backups for "disaster preparedness" but rather because it was "common sense". That is a little like saying you are not putting a bandage on the wound to staunch the bleeding but because it is "commonly accepted medical practice in this situation". Common sense actions do not sit in a vacuum. They are a result of, response to, or preparedness for, an event. In short, "common sense" is an adjective--but not truly a noun except in rare circumstances when we actually ARE discussing "common sense" itself in vacuum. Other times, we simply shorten things down and use it like a noun, e.g. "That is just common sense" but in reality, the noun is understood--similar to the way: "Go." Is a complete sentence despite the apparent lack of a noun. The noun, we understand, is "you". Or possibly "I". Again, we discern the noun from context. If someone had just asked, "What will you do?" we know the subject is the speaker. The full sentence would be "Backing up your data is just common sense to prepare for any form of data loss--from one corrupted record up through and including WWIII." Therefore, your backing up of data is to prepare for data loss for a variety of reason--and as by your own statement, some of those reasons are disasters. Good of you to prep for all possible reasons tho--I assume you do like I do and have a copy at home and a copy as work, in cases disaster strikes either one of those places.
  22. Are you really trying to tell me that if those Evernote servers got hit by a NoKo nuke you would say, "No--these backups I have are only for a minor disk failure--or software migration--I cannot use them for this because it is a disaster!*" Be honest--you make those backups without thinking of a LIMIT on them--you make them for ANY eventuality up to and including everything major that still leaves us with some form of government and economy. Common sense says to make backups and store them in a separate location from the main server because common sense acknowledges that the Black Swan does not pre-announce her arrival, nor does she come in only one size. But, I'll make you a deal, if you swear you would not use those backups if there was a disaster and they could recover your data, I'll give you a pass. That's all you gotta do! *I am assuming, of course, you have HTML, or some other generic form of backups.
  23. Wrong--once you are discussing the need to for a backup, unless you are discussing it ONLY in terms of voluntary migration--you are discussing disaster preparedness. This is reinforced by the fact we were discussing what to do if the Evernote servers dropped--of which you were part of the conversation... But, I digress. At least, that is what it is called in the business world with companies that employ more than themselves. And, again, I remind you, you do not speak for everybody. You only speak for yourself. Others might voice an assent, but it is up to them to say so after they have heard what you have said. Remember, if I was discussing disaster preparedness, which I was, everyone talking with me was also discussing disaster preparedness.
  24. Wow, you REALLY think you get to tell me what to do? ROFLMAO!!! You need your own HBO Stand-up special! Fact: We were not discussing note-taking--we were discussing the need for disaster preparedness. Fact: You cannot discuss disaster preparedness without discussing disasters. Fact: The more extreme the disaster and the better the recovery, the more relevant the event is to the conversation. Fact: The companies that were prepared for ANYTHING up to and including WWIII starting in NYC were probably the best examples (or very, very good) of disaster preparedness there are. Fact: These forums do support an ignore feature so you don't receive my posts. Fact: You should probably consider using that feature. Edit: WTF??? This post pushed me to Level 3??? I a now certain their Tier awards are NOT merit based!
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