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David Holman

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  1. @DTLow The legacy app was well done for it's time, as the performance demonstrates. But it was platform-specific, hence Evernote's [perfectly reasonable] desire to kill it off.

    @TechPerplexed Any good product person saw what Electron meant for the market -- it was a fundamental shift to the platform-agnostic future. It's a beautiful thing, but not for the faint of heart once you get into complex applications. You need a really good software architect to keep it from crumbling under its own weight.

    EN screwed this one up. I took it as a good time to get out of cloud dependence and move to a local-first solution (eg Joplin or Obsidian). I cancelled my paid subscription to EN as soon as I could after v10 came out.

    I just haven't found a good camera scanner yet. And I do miss the excellent OCR search of my whiteboards. But honestly I don't need it with my extensive tagging system.

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  2. Based on my experience building software products, the new app is a dead end. It will eventually lead to a painful rewrite and probably user suffering. Despite over a decade of EN use, I'd rather not sign up for that.

    It's worth noting here for those who haven't dug into it …
    Joplin is open source and supports user generated plug ins. Some of those are really quite fantastic productivity wins.
    Between the plug-ins and the customizability, it's a treat to use and gets better with time.

  3. If you're comfortable with Markdown, Joplin is a solid solution.

    I run the legacy Evernote on Android and Mac and honestly nothing beats those two apps. But, looking to the future direction of En, v10 has been out long enough now that's there's no reason for it to suck so bad still. If that's how En is going to build software, then it just isn't going to work for me.

    I've been running En (the legacy version) in combination with nvAlt for lightweight markdown-based note taking for several years now. I don't love having two systems, but I do love the flexibility. 

    Jumping to Joplin basically allows me to do both in one place. The experience isn't as smooth as legacy En, but it's a whole lot better than v10.

    The one thing that still keeps me around En is the doc scanner mode on mobile. I use it all the time to capture my notes and whiteboards in a clean format. I hate straight photo captures of stuff like that. I'll have to get over it eventually -- you can't have it all.

  4. After a couple of months trying to convince myself things would get better with v10 and my trusty friends at Evernote hadn't abandoned me, I finally had to accept that it was really just a big failure and EN doesn't seem to care.

    Thanks to the assistance here, I've installed Evernote Legacy on my Mac and v8 on my Android. I notice it less on my Mac, but I'd forgotten how far superior the Android experience is in the old version. Everything is faster and more reliable. It's also generally easier to use, even if it doesn't look quite as "modern".

    While I'm enjoying my old apps, I'm assuming EN won't give up on their investment in the new code base and I'll be forced over at some point. I don't think I can live with that. I'm moving forward with testing new platforms like Notion.

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  5. I held off on the update for a few months (not something I usually worry about with EN) and finally went for it on Android and Mac. Other than a slightly more "modern" UI, everything is worse. And this Home thing they keep touting in email marketing is a meager enhancement at best.

    I've been a daily user for over a decade and this is the first time I've been truly disappointed. I'm a software product manager -- I know how hard big roll outs can be. I feel their pain. But, months in, they need to publicly admit that v10 is a train wreck and figure out a path forward.

    I'll definitely be experimenting with other options. For now, I need to go figure out how to roll back my Mac and Android updates 🤞

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  6. This is driving me nuts right now. Are you telling me this is available on Windows!? It's not in Mac or the web app that I can find. I might just switch over to my Surface for this feature alone. 

    In my case, I mostly want to sort by "updated", but I have some notebooks where I use numbering in the titles to sort by "alphabetical" (since custom sorting also isn't available). 

    In those cases where I need the controlled sorting, it's critical for communicating with my collaborators and I really need that to stick. Everywhere else, it's a nuisance. 

  7. Evernote Helper quick entry failed miserably for me to, but I "Save to Evernote" right away.

    I use it to quickly capture notes while on a call, save, and move on to other things. Once or twice a week I open the app to review these notes. This week I discovered that none of my quick notes from the last week made it into Evernote. The toolbar quick entry acted like all was well, but nothing was saved ?

    I lost some critical notes from client and team calls. This is a big enough failure that I'm looking into new note taking solutions for the first time in ... 10 years?

    Make sure you submit a support ticket and make their team aware of your problem. There probably isn't any hope for retrieving your lost note, but maybe it can be avoided in the future.

    If simple text notes like the quick entry box are usually enough for you, I'd look into nvALT. It's quick, simple, and dead reliable, IME.

    # UPDATE #

    My notes just magically appeared! I've been restarting, relaunching, and anything else I can think of. Then the notes popped in out of thin air!

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