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  1. Hi GM, Thanks for all your advice in all the forums. I'm completely new to EN and was wondering if you could help me understand a key point about pdfs: Q. What is the difference between storing a pdf file inside EN (is this an attachment that can be opened elsewhere?) vs extracting the text from a pdf and only storing this in EN? Q. If I extract the text, will the EN text version be linked to the pdf file I keep in my dropbox? Q. How do I actually (a) strip text from a pdf vs ( add a pdf as an attachment? (I can get pdfs in EN, but I do not know which way I am saving them!) I'm sure these are very basic questions, and I have tried to find answers elsewhere. But I'd be very grateful for any help to get my head around this! My aim is to have all my pdfs (currently stored in a dropbox folder) searchable in EN (so I can access via ipad and mac). I've attempted pdf annotation in the past with limited success, and I have basically given that up as a viable notetaking option. But I have heard that EN allows one to take notes beside pdfs (or, I'm assuming, beside the stripped pdf text) -- is this right, and is this all in a single note? Currently, when I'm taking notes from a pdf journal article, I make a MS word file in which I same my thoughts/highlights, and then save this file with the same fie name + "notes" in the title. This is cumbersome but works, but I assume EN would let me do this more effectively? Again, thanks for all your comments and I'd be very grateful for your or others thoughts!! Hi. Welcome to the forums! There are a couple of things to consider here. If you are really into annotating PDFs (it sounds like you are), then stripping the text out of them is probably not the best solution for you. I am glad to say that Evernote has advanced by leaps and bounds over the past year, and you can do a whole lot more things with PDFs on your desktop and on the iPad. That said, they still have a critical problem (for me). I work with many thousands of PDFs, with some of them being quite large (scanned dead tree stuff). They don't fit in Evernote (over the 100MB limit for attachments) and even if they did, Evernote still compels you to download your entire Evernote database onto your computer, so I don't have enough space on my computer for Evernote. It is truly unfortunate, but until we have selective sync, I simply cannot put more than a handful of PDFs into my account. The good news (for you) is that I am an outlier in this regard. Very few of my colleagues have gone down this road, and because they mainly use relatively small PDFs (from online journal databases and the like) they probably will not encounter this problem for some time yet. Personally, I prefer taking notes separate from my PDFs, so I actually think the current method you have sounds quite nice. I have one note for the original text (author + year of publication in the title) and one note for my reading notes (YYMMDD + reading + author + year of publication in title). I link these two with an Evernote note link. The only difference here would be that my "original" is a textified version of the PDF. Hi everyone, and thanks for all the very useful feedback! I'm having more success with EN now: using it to write/store my notes on pdfs, as well as pdf files themselves (which for now I'm duplicating in dropbox). While there is redundancy in this workflow, it is a trial to see how much space pdfs will take on EN. Having files in dropbox is still very useful too, as dropbox will sync pdfs with many iPad annotation apps (unlike EN to my knowledge) -- and annotation is still something I need/like to do with certain pdfs (esp. when marking up translations on documents printed in other languages). I've a couple of questions that I'd really like to get your thoughts on please: 1) What is the best way to put EN links between EN documents? For example, if I am linking a pdf article and my notes on that article, should I put a link in each note to the other note, or just in one? 2) Can I link EN notes to dropbox pdf files? 3) In another thread, GM mentioned keeping a "master bibliography for everything that links to the reading notes, the text versions of PDFs, and the PDF files." How can this be created? 4) Various people have discussed ways to automate the process of pdf importation, note creation, (and sometimes tagging). I have read about the Mac Automator, EN import folders, or other apps/services that enable users to setup rules, however I have not stumbled upon a sufficiently explanation to help me out! Would anyone here know where to look? -- My aim is to automate or simplify this process: when I import a pdf into EN (either text or pdf itself) I routinely create another note called "identical title +notes" and tag this second note with the same set of keywords. How can I make this happen automatically, if at all? (Or, am I doing something redundant for EN search facilities?) Again, thanks you all for the help!
  2. Hi GM, Thanks for all your advice in all the forums. I'm completely new to EN and was wondering if you could help me understand a key point about pdfs: Q. What is the difference between storing a pdf file inside EN (is this an attachment that can be opened elsewhere?) vs extracting the text from a pdf and only storing this in EN? Q. If I extract the text, will the EN text version be linked to the pdf file I keep in my dropbox? Q. How do I actually (a) strip text from a pdf vs ( add a pdf as an attachment? (I can get pdfs in EN, but I do not know which way I am saving them!) I'm sure these are very basic questions, and I have tried to find answers elsewhere. But I'd be very grateful for any help to get my head around this! My aim is to have all my pdfs (currently stored in a dropbox folder) searchable in EN (so I can access via ipad and mac). I've attempted pdf annotation in the past with limited success, and I have basically given that up as a viable notetaking option. But I have heard that EN allows one to take notes beside pdfs (or, I'm assuming, beside the stripped pdf text) -- is this right, and is this all in a single note? Currently, when I'm taking notes from a pdf journal article, I make a MS word file in which I same my thoughts/highlights, and then save this file with the same fie name + "notes" in the title. This is cumbersome but works, but I assume EN would let me do this more effectively? Again, thanks for all your comments and I'd be very grateful for your or others thoughts!!
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