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Krunoslav

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    Also since there is plenty of screen real estate could you make the icon for changing alignment no a drop down menu type icon. Its an often used feature and clicking on it and than choosing from a drop down menu is more click than it would be necessary. Just make them icons one next to another like other icons please. Thank you.

     

    If you set ClassicHTMLToolbar to 1 in the registry, it will do what you want.

     

    Great. Do you have a link or some more information on how to do this, most specifically where to find the "ClassicHTMLToolbar"? thanks

     

     

    It's located in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Evernote\Evernote in the registry. Double-click the ClassicHtmlToolbar entry and set it to 1 (it defaults to 0).

     

     

    Oh, that's so cool. Much appreciated. :)

    Oh and I just noticed you added spell checking to the tile of the note, when adding a new one. That is a requested feature. Thumbs up. Thanks guys. Keep it up. Nice little Easter egg. :)


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    Also since there is plenty of screen real estate could you make the icon for changing alignment no a drop down menu type icon. Its an often used feature and clicking on it and than choosing from a drop down menu is more click than it would be necessary. Just make them icons one next to another like other icons please. Thank you.

     

    If you set ClassicHTMLToolbar to 1 in the registry, it will do what you want.

     

    Great. Do you have a link or some more information on how to do this, most specifically where to find the "ClassicHTMLToolbar"? thanks


  3. So far the Evernote seems snappier and faster at browsing notes and displaying those with lots of images. You also fixed the bug I reported about notebooks section always resizing to 215 px. Thanks.

    Another feedback and suggestion. The new icons look pretty good so far, subtle change but a welcome change. Devil is in the details, and speaking of the details. The icons for editing the note, are looking like faded like they are permanently dimmed, which usually indicates not available icons. In most applications dimmed icons as an UI element means its there but not available at the moment. Wrong tool selected or wrong section etc. Anyway, here is the screenshot of the current icons and their state. I wish you guyes made them as before, icons are fine just make the not dimmed or faded. Also since there is plenty of screen real estate could you make the icon for changing alignment no a drop down menu type icon. Its an often used feature and clicking on it and than choosing from a drop down menu is more click than it would be necessary. Just make them icons one next to another like other icons please. Thank you.

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  4. The options to view, annotate and rotate images are very useful. And there is off course perhaps the most useful - RESIZE. But its not consistent with other options or very intuitive. Especially if the image is similar color as the blue outline. Please add resize icon next to the other ones, so that everyone is immediately clear of all the things one can do with the image.

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    For years I have been hoping that Evernote would concentrate on fixing the poor editing features and stop introducing new features that nobody asked for and strange product partnerships (Post-it notes, messenger bags, etc). Finally, it seems as though it might just happen!

     
    I appreciate the detailed blog post explaining how you're planning to move forward. I'm not concerned about the choice of technology (javascript) as I currently use the following javascript editors extensively and have no problems with performance:
     
    • the Wodpress (CKEditor?) editor for blog posts
    • Marxico, "the missing markdown editor for Evernote" which allows me to write markdown in a split screen view, and create beautiful notes with a consistent style and appearance.
    • the editor in this forum

    I really think that you need to look at implementing a way for users to suggest and vote on product features. This would provide you with metrics on how your user-base feel about particular features.

     

    It's important to note however that you MUST feedback on the suggestions. Perhaps it would be a good idea to set a threshold at which you guarantee more detailed feedback. E.g. if a feature gets more than 5,000 votes then a response of more than 100 words is guaranteed. Even if it's a response explaining why a feature won't be implemented, it will show respect for your users and rebuild the trust that is lacking.

     

    The most important features that I would like to see in a new improved editor are fairly standard features. These are features I would use every single day.

    • Better image handling. I can't believe I can't resize an image, let alone choose how text flows around it
    • Better table support. Controlling borders, margins and padding... background and foreground colours and setting column sizes.
    • Styles. Seriously, this would be the biggest change for me. I like my notes to look consistent. I like to format code in a particular colour and font. I like to have headings of different sizes.
    This is your opportunity to do something great. Don't drop the ball on this!

     

    I pretty much agree with everything said and support the same requests. Its 2015, this should be a standard at this point.

     


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    Thanks for letting us know! This sounds very promising. I'm getting a lot of issues with lag with the new release, and now that I understand you've switched to javascript, I'm worried if that would have a performance penalty which we can feel in larger notes?

     

     

    This is definitely on our radar - I don't believe that this is a limit of the technology, but rather, something we need to do differently.

     

    Actually with the 5.9.1 release and few betas before it I had the same issues with lag on larger notes. Even if its mostly just text. Is this when you started implementing new JavaScript. I don't remember having that problem with the same notes in previous releases. I don't think I want to trade better editor for a slow performance, that is a compromise that should not be done. I like what you said. "I don't believe that this is a limit of the technology, but rather, something we need to do differently." Because I feel the same way. Hope you guys find a solution by the time you get out of beta.  


  7. Wow.  Thanks for all of the feedback.

     

    Regarding the technical details, I'll see if I can summarize here, but I think this might be better suited for a follow on blog post.  Here are the particulars:

     

    In all of our clients, what you actually see, interact with, and edit is HTML.  Originally, each of the clients consumed ENML and then translated that to HTML so that you can view and edit it.  Those edits were translated back to ENML which was store locally and synced with the Evernote service.  ENML is well defined, so there was no need to standardize the ENML -> HTML conversion.  So long as each client produced and consumed valid ENML, things were fine.

     

    This worked well for a while, but as the codebases and clients features diverged, inconsistencies between the converters caused inconsistent HTML rendering across clients.  Bugs started to show up on one client, then were fixed only to pop up on another.  New editor features needed to be built by each team so a new feature meant 5-7 times the work of building it once... all of this leads us to where we are today.

     

    The "new" editor is a  shared, common codebase that consumes and produces ENML, just like the old ones.  The difference is that the technology we used to build the new editor (JavaScript) is cross platform, so we can build it once and share it everywhere.  No more inconsistencies.  Fewer bugs.  Better editing for everyone.

     

    The complexity lies in the details. Each of the clients were not built thinking that we would just "drop in a new editor" so we needed to do some rearchitecting and refactoring.  Hence "replacing the pipes".  This work is completed on Mac and Windows, and is ongoing on the other clients.

     

    @JMichael, that's why I posted this message twice.  I wanted to make sure the Mac and Windows users were aware.

     

    Be expecting more detail as things progress.

    This is one of the first believe it or not actual precise feedback I have seen from Evernote team. Congratulations. I'm impressed. :)

     

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    We can’t promise to get everything right the first time, but we can promise to listen to your feedback and work tirelessly to make every version of Evernote’s editor better than the last. If you have feedback on the editor, we’re here to listen. Feel free to comment on this thread or DM me.

    I appreciate the attempt to implement new features, God knows Evernote is in desperate need of note editor because even note editor in forums here is better. That being said, a legitimate concern and question I have to ask, based on the quote from you posted above. I'm sure you can understand. Perhaps you personally are not responsible for any of it but you do wear Evernote banner so in a way you are part of the organization.

    You said "We can promise to listen to your feedback and work tirelessly to make every version of Evernote’s editor better than the last. If you have feedback on the editor, we’re here to listen."

    Evernote has a long and embarrassing, well documented history of doing precisely the opposite of what you now claim. No feedback (just browse this forums here and its really easy to see) and ignoring user requests. e.g. Evernote beta and other examples. So why should we trust you or even be excited about your promise when actions speak to the contrary? I ask this not to troll but to see if you are man of your word. And is this something worth investing time into. From testing beta to following its progress to actually sticking with your product vs alternatives such as Onenote for example. Can you please answer my question and prove that we the loyal users are not being brutally ignored once again. Thank you.

    i don't think we can hold one individual to blame for the sins of others (perceived or imagined), especially when it was a multiple team project undertaken over multiple years with a shifting staff of developers working under different leadership. in short, i don't think he (or anyone else) can satisfactorily respond to your question about whether they are a man (or woman) of their word. even if such a thing could somehow be demonstrated here, there is a lot more going on here -- "listening," for example. listening does not mean responding to user requests. it doesn't mean implementing them. it doesn't mean ignoring them. it means listening, which really isn't going to be very easy to observe by those doing the speaking. at any rate, as far as trust and so forth goes, it's a beta and you can give it a shot or not.

     

    Sure I can, because I have little choice. I am a paying customer and I can't get any information on the problems that I am having and since the big CEO or any of the decisions makers are not responding and have decided to make the Evernote policy to retain information and infuriate millions of its users for years. If they have decided to put someone on this forum as a spokesperson for its customers than he or she is the only one I can reach and therefore he or she is responsible. That is my right as a customer especially paying customer. When they decided to treat its users with more respect, the users will be more tolerant. As for this particular individual I have clearly stated "Perhaps you personally are not responsible for any of it but you do wear Evernote banner so in a way you are part of the organization."

    You said: "listening," for example. listening does not mean responding to user requests. it doesn't mean implementing them. it doesn't mean ignoring them. it means listening, which really isn't going to be very easy to observe by those doing the speaking. at any rate, as far as trust and so forth goes, it's a beta and you can give it a shot or not."

    I'm sorry, but for any company and especially a leading company in its field witch prides itself with over a hundred millions users and payed subscription model, that simply is not good enough. The only reason why it is happening is because it can, (so far) but certainly not because it should.

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    So why should we trust you or even be excited about your promise when actions speak to the contrary? I ask this not to troll but to see if you are man of your word. And is this something worth investing time into. From testing beta to following its progress to actually sticking with your product vs alternatives such as Onenote for example. Can you please answer my question and prove that we the loyal users are not being brutally ignored once again. Thank you.

     

    I'm sorry that you feel this way, but I can tell you that we hear you and we do care... this is precisely why we're making it a priority to be more responsive.  Beyond that, we will just have to earn your trust by following through.  

     

    Fair enough. I am willing to wait for a little longer and see what happens. That being said, would it be too much to ask for you to post screenshots or even better a video showcasing what is new and what is expected for the new editor. I don't want to try beta just yet since last few betas had bugs and broke some things that worked before and I was forced to go back a version. Having many valuable notes and relaying on it of daily use, but also eager to see what is new. I would appreciate some more visual information demonstrating what are the new features. Thank you.

     


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    Since updating to Ver 5.9.1 there seems to be new behavior involved with the way Notebook column re-sizing works. It always defaults to width of 215 px no matter how many times I manually resize it, as soon as I switch windows or minimize Evernote window, the Notebook column goes back to 215 px. This is a problem since I have notebook names that are longer than that and I want them to be visible. This is something I noticed since Ver 5.9.1. Either its a BUG or a new forced behavior that I didn't ask for or want. Please revert back to the manual way or re sizing it and evernote remembering the values. Thank you.

    Here are screenshots to illustrate the problem.

     

    Aaaaaand this bug is back. Same on my machine. Drat.

     

    You had it before? You mean I'm not crazy? Hehehe.


  11. Since updating to Ver 5.9.1 there seems to be new behavior involved with the way Notebook column re-sizing works. It always defaults to width of 215 px no matter how many times I manually resize it, as soon as I switch windows or minimize Evernote window, the Notebook column goes back to 215 px. This is a problem since I have notebook names that are longer than that and I want them to be visible. This is something I noticed since Ver 5.9.1. Either its a BUG or a new forced behavior that I didn't ask for or want. Please revert back to the manual way or re sizing it and evernote remembering the values. Thank you.

    Here are screenshots to illustrate the problem.

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  12. With the last two betas there were some bugs introduced that were not there in the last stable release. Bugs were mostly mentioned in the threads for each beta, respectfully. It forced me to revert back to last stable release. Can you list and bugs that were fixed in this release in regards to both stable release and last two betas. Thank you.

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  13. Appreciate the update, seems to be on the right track now. But, I really find useful the update all other browsers received, a more cleaner and more useful way to clip, LinkedIn, Youtube etc. Any chance of getting that in Firefox soon? As for Firefox approval period, don't worry about it, just post an update here on on their website and keep us notified. That is all we ask. Thank you.

     


  14. You're right - "Stability improvements to 5.8.11" is the only change in the details.  No official release post in the forums yet either...

    That is correct, I checked the forums right away. Might be some small bug they detected and quickly released an update to fix it but didn't spend time on officially documenting it as they normally do.


  15. Ok, I just received an update which states new version but release notes are exactly the same as in previous version 5.8.11.8117. Any idea what is going on?

    Evernote for Windows 5.8.12.8127 GA Release Notes

    Stability improvements to 5.8.11:

    Faster launch and sync

    Numerous fixes and stability improvements
    • Fixed OCR bugs
    • Fixed bug where YXBJ customers could not export some notebooks
    • Fixed bug that caused text to be truncated in Account Info for some languages
    • Fixed several bugs which caused the app to freeze
    • 1 security fix -- learn more at
      #


  16. The tick for needing sync is a really nice feature!!

     

    Im feeling really smooth navigating through notes, search notes...etc (the usual "not responding" thing), well done.

    +1 on that feature. Small but really really useful. Those kinds of small but significent improvemnts are most welcomed.

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