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Krunoslav

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  1. 1 minute ago, gustavgi said:

    I agree. Hopefully they have something like that in mind when refering to a new global feedback forum.

    Me too. Although I think that anyone who is interested and observant can see the request and make educated guess what the users want the most. So far it seems the company had either unauthorized forum moderators or disinterested decision makers. Probably both. After all one would explain the other.

  2. 1 hour ago, gazumped said:

    Evernote always have operated on the basis that while they're pleased to keep users in the loop from time to time,  they don't employ anyone as a user-facing intermediary. Yet various employees have stopped by here to help out forum members and comment on some issues.  It's not a question of "do they care" it's "do they have time?".  You may have noticed the company went through some major changes recently...

    As to addressing the features that users actually want,  I think their problem is that they're swimming in conflicting and confusing requests from users.  Evernote are developing their product under a timetable to which we don't have access.  If there's a request which can be addressed by a small change in code it will happen quickly.  If the change requires a major rewrite of big chunks of the app,  it can only be processed slowly through the multiple operating systems and various device specs that we all use.  The company has already delivered more updates and bug fixes in the past couple of years than Microsoft, Google and Apple together.  It would be polite to give them credit for that,  rather than just demand a personal update - which would likely raise more questions and argument and take up more employee time.

    I'll give credit to some of the bug fixes. I agree they have been fixing some of the nasty bugs especially int he last beta release and quickly made an update to that. Kudos.

    However I can't agree with they don't have the time. Take Wunderlist to-do-app team. If I'm not mistaken they are just as small if not smaller team than Evernote. But they have one person who is in the comments section and his entire job is to communicate between the developers and users. He is authorized to answer all the users about what the team is doing. He takes as much time as needed and answers virtually every comment, no matter how rude or polite the comment might be. I respect that. And its a two way communication because he takes the user requests to the team in meetings. They have a whole functional system in place for this. And its only one person.

    Heck, with the number of dedicated user in Evernote and people like you who is counting " 16,242 posts"  with no pay I imagine. All they have to do is ask someone like you to act as ambassador between the developers and users. Let them authorize you and problem solved. They have no time is not an excuse I can agree on. I'm sorry. You always have time for things you put first. And Evernote has a long sad history of not putting its users where it should. To quote Henry Ford here: “It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages.” Judging by the financial troubles in Evernote, maybe its time that some decision maker at the top takes that quote to hearth. With all do respect off course. 

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  3. 54 minutes ago, DTLow said:

    Then again, with only 7 votes (voting buttons in the upper left corner), it might not be that easy to identify what features users actually want.
    I think hierarchical folder filing gets more votes. Note: They haven't implemented that either < appalling

     

    2 minutes ago, gustavgi said:

    I'm pretty sure EN realized pretty quickly that the voting system doesn't work as noone uses it, and I'm sure they are just as interested in number of posts in a thread if it hints to an interest level among the users,

    Thank you! I was writing precisely that.

  4. 28 minutes ago, gbarry said:

    The new editor is live on latest versions of Windows, Mac, Android, and the web client. If you check our forum product release notes (latest is pinned in each individual product feedback area) there are often editor fixes included as we resolve issues or make improvements. iOS is coming very soon, and will have v 1.5 of our latest editor baked in (the others are on 1.0 and will play catch up). PJ may be an alumnus, but we have a new PM managing this project who we'll be onboarding to our forums after we begin to consolidate editor requests and discussions into a global product feedback area. 

    That is certainly nice to hear. Can we expect Heading 1,2,3 and paragraph options and ability to apply them easily by right mouse click and some keyboard shortcuts. I haven't used web version of Evernote for some time now, but if I remember correctly there was a right click menu pop up options for text editing. I wouldn't mind that on Desktop.

    Preferably not English keyboard layout only for obvious reasons if you will add keyboard shortcuts. Superscript, subscript Ability to change the color of the highlighter tool and uppercase only, lower case only etc. The standard tools found in most text editors. Ability to add styles or quote the text would be also nice, but I can live without that if its too much trouble. Although they are available here in the web editor on this forum, and that is just not right.

    Just make it more convenient to write and format text please with more than the very basic set of features. I don't expect full blown text editor like MS Word, but at least make changes to some of the things I mentioned. Certainly ability to assign paragraphs and heading, sub heading etc with a right click and different colors for highlighter tool which would greatly increase the note taking capabilities of Evernote. Thank you. 

    P.S.
    Insert horizontal line is a great feature in Evernote that I use often but the keyboard shortcut is only for English layout keyboards. Its useless on a different layout. (Ctrl + Shift + - ) is not working on my Croatian layout keyboard and I'm sure its not the only layout where its not working. Can that be changes to some other keyboard shortcut or as it would be the best allow users to assign their own keyboard shortcuts. Please do something about that. Thank you.

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  5. 22 hours ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

    It sounds like the employee who started this thread, @PeeJayTee, is no longer with the company. This forum now says that he's "Evernote Alumni"

    I hope this change is not representative of the laudable efforts to fix the editor! 

    Perhaps Evernote can assign another employee to attend to this thread and provide updates and previews regarding changes to the editor? 

    So I guess my first response was my gut instinct being right. Evernote's ability to address the features users actually want is appalling. In some instances they showed good will as by the mentioned user but apparently that is not the same as the overall company policy. It would seem he either acted under different management or on his own. So we cannot really put much hope anymore, that the Evernote team will actually finish their, what is it now "4 year" project with a dedicated team working on it. Ha!

  6. 9 hours ago, chirmer said:

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebExtensions

    You'll have to wait for Firefox to actually get their "WebExtensions" up and running, and this is where it seems they'll be posting the information.

    I asked around and some mention it being in the upcoming release Firefox 48 or the one after it 49, which is still a very long time. But at least its something. Shame because I have to use Chrome or opera now only for the Web clipper and its really slowing down the process.

  7. On 7/8/2016 at 0:56 PM, rubenb said:

    Apologies for the inferior support on Firefox. We'd love to offer a solution today, but the new Firefox API isn't available right now. 

    I wouldn't mind that it isn't if I had some useful information that its being worked on and when could be expect the same quality as on other major browser? Can you answer that please? Thank you.

  8. 1 minute ago, DTLow said:

    Agree that the Reminder Section clogs up the UI.  I havd mine turned off all the time

    As to what Evernote should be working on - I think they should focus on the high priority items.
    You can indicate your support for feature requests using the voting buttons in the upper left corner of the discussions.

    As to what Evernote should "at least reply to it"
    What kind of reply are you looking for?


    I was looking for some responses from an Evernote team. Ensuring they care and have hear the feature request.

     

     

  9. On 6/28/2016 at 3:19 PM, rubenb said:

    We'd love to provide you the same new version for Firefox too. However, this isn't possible at this time.
    That being said: Firefox is implementing an extension system this is more similar to Chrome/Safari/Opera.
    This will allow us to release the same version to all browser at the same time.

    Why isn't it possible at the this time? Its been like this for years? Who is in charge to provide answers to why isn't it being done. If you are increasing price for paying users and you are advertising as cross platform than you owe us at least an answer, don't you think? I mean, either say we have stopped supporting Firefox all together which seems to be the case or use the extra money to provide the same support of all major browsers.

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  10. On 6/28/2016 at 7:06 AM, gustavgi said:

    A note will be pinned if you add a Reminder to it (unless you are using list view) Hopefully this function will be added to list view as well.

    That is not what I really need, because adding reminders clog up the UI. It is very impractical and clumsy was of doing something that should be really simple. And with the price increase you would think they are working on it. Or at least reply to it.

  11. 27 minutes ago, FactMan said:

    I have too many shortcuts to put on even a full line of the screen. For this reason, I like the new capability of putting the shortcuts on the left panel where I can sort them, so that the most frequently-used items will appear on the screen where I can quickly access them. I can also look for searches that I have done in the past and copy the search terms to a new search and modify it to get what I am now looking for. If your example is how you name your shortcuts, I would work on reducing the length of them so that I could get more on the toolbar... but maybe that is just me?

    Actually the naming would be nice if we could change them in the toolbar. They are simply the names of the notebooks. I have a rigid folder/file or notebook/notes structure but there are many notebooks so I use shortcuts for some of them. The names are long because its the way to keep a description in the title like you would with your folders on your hard drive. The problem is with them being in the left panel is that I have to scroll up and down the folder structure to get to the shortcut, which makes it anything but shortcut.
    (see the image bellow.)

    There is panty of room to make shortcut panel be another row below the menu panel. After all, that is what it was in the last Evernote version. And pretty much all browsers have this, so why deviate from that convention to something that makes it less than it was before. Boggles the mind. I don't know who came up with that idea or why but it, makes no sense from an user experience point of view. Its not like they didn't have enough time or forums to ask people what to use, maybe they simply forgot to take note of all the feedback. Hmmm.

    P.S.
    Here is a thought. There are apparently 150 mil users of Evernote. Why not just leave simple things to be customizable and you make everyone happy, let people customize panels to their liking. Its been done before, and it works well. Why do we have to change things based on design and not user experience? Its not like the Evernote team didn't have access to its users or information from other projects. This has been discussed in forums before when Evernote was in beta stage. But sometimes it just seems Evernote will be Evernote, no matter what the users say.

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  12. On 11/16/2015 at 4:15 PM, ReganHouse37 said:

    Absolutely mind-boggling that this feature is not already in there.  How do you support all common formatting options found in standard word formatting applications and not this.  If you're going to support anything outside of 'plain text' abilities, (i.e. fonts, colors, bolds, bullets, etc), then the support of format painter is a very obvious inclusion.  Virtually every other rich text application I use has this—even google docs has it!  It happens to be very useful in that I don't have to point-and-click countless times all over my note highlighting various text and then applying the same exact formatting in a very tedious and frustrating manner.  No brainer, really.

    Agree 100% For some strange reason Evernote team has avoided to implementing a good text editor for a long time now. Even the editor in Forums can do more in some areas. But they are working on "Editor" changes in the Evernote  from what I understand. I hope we see it soon.

  13. 22 minutes ago, csihilling said:

    Shortcuts in the side bar.

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    Thank you for posting the screenshot. I appropriate it. Unfortunately it seems that my fears are confirmed. When the last version of Evernote for desktop. version 5 was in beta they have made it all white interface like it is here in your screenshot. The users were outraged and wanted that to change, because it was too bright for the eyes, not enough separation between the sections and was generally too uniform. After getting lot of feedback, finally this bad idea was corrected by the final release.

    Than they made the new web version also in beta. Same idea, make it all white. Unfortunately even after tones of negative feedback they persisted in this bad idea. Ignoring the users.

    And that brings us to Version 6. Currently in beta, and you guessed it its white interface once again. I don't know if they do this on purpose or simply they are so unorganized and can't read feedback and notes from previous versions.... if true it would be pretty ironic you have to admit. Anyway, to Evernote team.... please don't make it all white user interface. Listen to the users and learn from previous projects please. Make it either optional to change colors, which is highly unlikely I would say, or make it like you did in version 5 or make it even more darker. But please don't leave it all white. Its bad user design practice. Read the comments from previous two attempts I mention. Thank you.

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  14. Can someone please posts various screenshots of the UI? "Cleaner and brighter overall interface." was one of the new changes listed, I would like to try it but reading the thread seems to be all white Evernote. I remember when web beta came out and when version 5 beta came out and everybody were saying they don't want all white UI. For good reasons, I hope Evernote team learned something from their mistakes and I hope I am wrong.

    I don't want to comment anything in advance so I would like to see the screenshots please. Before I try. Actually can the person who started the thread include them please. It should be there from the start don't you think so? Thank you.

  15. Any news on the updates guys. You Started talking to us in the Evernote Windows forum and Its much appreciated. Can you give us any updates on the new Web clipper for Firefox. Its still technically on 6.0.15.1, while Chrome is on 6.7. At least get us where 6.5 was for Chrome.

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    For years I have been hoping that Evernote would concentrate on fixing the poor editing features and stop introducing new features that nobody asked for and strange product partnerships (Post-it notes, messenger bags, etc). Finally, it seems as though it might just happen!

     
    I appreciate the detailed blog post explaining how you're planning to move forward. I'm not concerned about the choice of technology (javascript) as I currently use the following javascript editors extensively and have no problems with performance:
     
    • the Wodpress (CKEditor?) editor for blog posts
    • Marxico, "the missing markdown editor for Evernote" which allows me to write markdown in a split screen view, and create beautiful notes with a consistent style and appearance.
    • the editor in this forum

    I really think that you need to look at implementing a way for users to suggest and vote on product features. This would provide you with metrics on how your user-base feel about particular features.

     

    It's important to note however that you MUST feedback on the suggestions. Perhaps it would be a good idea to set a threshold at which you guarantee more detailed feedback. E.g. if a feature gets more than 5,000 votes then a response of more than 100 words is guaranteed. Even if it's a response explaining why a feature won't be implemented, it will show respect for your users and rebuild the trust that is lacking.

     

    The most important features that I would like to see in a new improved editor are fairly standard features. These are features I would use every single day.

    • Better image handling. I can't believe I can't resize an image, let alone choose how text flows around it
    • Better table support. Controlling borders, margins and padding... background and foreground colours and setting column sizes.
    • Styles. Seriously, this would be the biggest change for me. I like my notes to look consistent. I like to format code in a particular colour and font. I like to have headings of different sizes.
    This is your opportunity to do something great. Don't drop the ball on this!

     

    I pretty much agree with everything said and support the same requests. Its 2015, this should be a standard at this point.

     

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    Thanks for letting us know! This sounds very promising. I'm getting a lot of issues with lag with the new release, and now that I understand you've switched to javascript, I'm worried if that would have a performance penalty which we can feel in larger notes?

     

     

    This is definitely on our radar - I don't believe that this is a limit of the technology, but rather, something we need to do differently.

     

    Actually with the 5.9.1 release and few betas before it I had the same issues with lag on larger notes. Even if its mostly just text. Is this when you started implementing new JavaScript. I don't remember having that problem with the same notes in previous releases. I don't think I want to trade better editor for a slow performance, that is a compromise that should not be done. I like what you said. "I don't believe that this is a limit of the technology, but rather, something we need to do differently." Because I feel the same way. Hope you guys find a solution by the time you get out of beta.  

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