Krunoslav

I'm sorry but I find that extremely hard to believe. Just look at the comments. The crowd is not pleased. I don't know who you used for testing but this is pre alpha and warning is warned that it not even safe for testing unless you have no notes. I' have been part of this forums for a while and I have seen a lot of talk but little do. Please fix it. Actually just do your job. I have almost given up. If I didn't have invested years and 16000 + notes in your platform I would have left. This way you got me, much to my frustration. So please at least do your job. Fix the bugs, and try not to introduce new ones with every version. And no, I don't need to point them out because they are available to read about, in your own forums. Not a happy paying customer. You removed features and introduced bunch of new bugs and now you made it not even safe to use. All this while increasing price. Now please do your job and invest that money in less marketing and more development. Thank you. Talk doesn't cook rice. - Chinese proverb

"Time and time again, Evernote has rushed into too many things and which were all broken." Truer words were never spoken. Not sure how much faith people have into them fixing some bugs. Its well documented that bugs remain despite the complains for many many versions. Seems like they introduce more bugs than they solve with each version and things that used to work get broken, but not fixed.

It seems that whatever you have done, much of the formatting in previous notes is now broken. Highlighted sentience connect to other sentences with no space between them, and the formatting has been therefore broken. Some cliped notes are now reformatted and not aligned proparly. I don't know what to do, but all the careful alignments on thousands of notes is now broken. It seems to be related to the tables changes and formatting engine changes. I appreciate the changes and that you are not wasting our money, but two steps forward, six steps backward approach is not appreciate. This might be beta but feels like Alpha. Needs A LOT more work before its safe to use. I'm reverting back. This is dangerous. You introduce twice as many bugs as you have solved. WTF?

The bug that was introduced in the last update is still not fixed. Please fix it. The bug in question is that when you get to the end of the note and you click enter to create more space or rows for writing, it does not scroll automatically. This used to work, until the last update than it became broke. Still hasn't been fixed and has been reported at least few times. Please fix it. Thank you.

Welcome addition but looks like its still un-polished and needs more work. Case in point...

Not irrational, just the opposite, it is what people hear about big companies. They don't care if its Google, Microsoft, Apple or Amazon. Its a big corporation. It would explain their irrationality, by being rationally distrustful of big corporations. As I have said in the intro " For anyone wondering why there is mistrust towards Google and companies like Google, this just came out." When you read this kind of things in the news often, don't be surprised if people right or wrong have distrust towards big corporations. If you look at this thread you will see that feelings are important. Feelings. People care far less about what is true or not true, and a lot more what how they feel about it. Just read those that choose to comment here and many that didn't the atmosphere is not brimming with trust and confidence. That was my point, if you keep hearing Yahoo had a breach, they hacked that other company, etc often enough in the news people form a perception about big corporations. Apperantely Evernote has not taken that into account and there are many ways to handle this kind of situation and put users at ease. I watched Microsoft when they launched their Windows 10 and were collecting user data for their digital assistant but people freaked out, thinking they are mining data for malicious use. Microsoft didn't respond for weeks and by that time it took on its own life. Everyone was freaking about in the social media. Evernote could learn from that next time they make a press release.

For anyone wondering why there is mistrust towards Google and companies like Google, this just came out. Yahoo Ads Insult to Injury

Than simply don't. Stop commenting and go about your business.

But trustworthiness is directly linked in trusting them to deliver future benefits. And since we are not seeing them right now, all we have to go on is their unreliable announcement, which is not what I qualify as benefit. Meanwhile price increase is very much real. If you are happy with Evernote that is great, I personally am pretty satisfited but I don't trust them, (not the Google cloud stuff but their relationship with users which is very much one sided in many occasions) and that makes me hesitant to invest even more than I already did in their platform.

Perhaps you haven't been around these parts (forum) for very long. Evernote has an embarrassing history of empty promises and abandoned projects. But most of all, we have seen increase in price, reduction in features and no countervalue from Evernote. And knowing how many promises they didn't keep and how many times they ignored user requests, what they say means little in actual value. What is that Chinese proverb "Talk Dosen't Cook Rice." If you stick around long enough you will see why their words have little weight around these parts.

They only respond to praise and not much else. They are shall we say very selective about it. Which just brings in more criticism for good reason.

I full agree. No benefit to the users that we have seen. The cost of making or doing something is not the responsibility of the client. It is yours. If you can't justify it with value, don't mention it.

Time will tell. BTW. Stick to the argument, don't resort to insulting those who think differently than you. Either make a counter argument, or don't comment.

So. An ex Google X man, joins Evernote as CEO. Than we see Google Drive integration and than we see If every time before during or after acquisitions and mergers I heard "business as usual" from the PR department. If they gave me a penny each they I heard that I would be a rich man today. Google Drive seems to be far from ideal solution. Another point of contact just means more things can go wrong. Besides I'm pretty sure it was part of the back room deal. Google sneaks in the back door with its cloud to temp more new users from a fresh market, and Evernote gets a life jacket from Google because poor planing and management have left the with big cost of maintaining their cloud and not great biz model that would pay for it. I would hope there are some true benefits to end users like increase in upload speeds and capacity for everyone directly from evernote. Don't forget few months ago they increase the prices for everyone and for some quite a bit and limited the free users but offered little or nothing in return. I think they are not providing enough value for what they are charging unless you are heavily invested in their platform. For new users or those not invested too much competition from Microsoft for example offers more in many areas. I hope Evernote get get their stuff together and start innovating again. Right now they are playing slow catchup game. Current new Evernote CEO Is Former Google X Executive Chris O'Neill. Hahaha! I swear this writs it self... Evernote in their blog wrote and I quote: "After an intensive period of research and investigation involving several cloud providers, we have selected Google Cloud Platform to provide our data infrastructure moving forward." Hahaha. You have to admit, its sooooo suspicious. Ex Google or Google X Executive Chris O'Neill and current Evernote CEO somehow of all the options they "intensively researched" decided to go with Google option that somehow benefits Google and even Evernote but not really the end users who again were not even involved in the decision making process. And according to Evernote themselves both Google and Evernote will now how access to all our information. I personally don't have much to hide but I don't think I had that in mind when I agreed to give Evernote my info. All this sounds a bit to much like "Good all boy" network. I would not be surprised if this is ground work for Google take over and in few years Evernote will be GoogleNote. Something just smells bad. What do you guys think. Evernote has been ***** around for years now. Ignoring user request, pursuing some phantom ideas that never worked pushed by the last CEO and now they found that with no innovation and far from stellar customer service their business model is not enough to support the growing demand and they can't live of the old glory forever. So first thing they do is new CEO. He than makes a decision to raise prices for paying customers, cut the features for free users forcing them to pay or leave and provides zero benefits in return. Users gets pissed but so what there are 200 mill of them he says. Than they try to integrate Google Drive into evernote on desktop and web. Probably a deal made with Google so that google can tap into new market with its Google Drive and others services, and in return they get a sweet deal on Google cloud. Current Evernote CEO is former Google guy so God knows what deals they made behind closed doors. And no one off course ever asked us the users about any of this. Evernote is struggling and Google just throw them life jacket. I'm sure they will want something in return. So it would be no surprise whatsoever that in few years we just read Evernote blog update: We are so proud to announce that we are now part of Google. The acquisition has been done and we want to celebrate this proud moment with you our loyal users. Its been a long road with some ups and downs but finally we have a new home. We will continue to make our products great and share this journey with you." End sarcasm. it just smells bad. Mainly because Google could really use this market and who is Evernote CEO now and how he runs the company, I would really not be surprised at all if this is ground work for future acquisition by Google. Microstot bough Sunrise and Wunderlist and few others, Apple is mostly falling behind or not competing in this space so its up to Google to buy in the rest. Google note taking app is not serious enough but I'm sure Google would like to add Evernote. Makes perfect sense. They already have the inside man. What the expression: Follow the money. Will see in few years I guess.

Thanks. It does clarify but does not make me happy as a paying users I have to be honest. Clearly this is something that benefits the Evernote and Google but I still don't see strong benefit to myself or any other end user. Perhaps that is something you and Google can work on and we can see some real improvements on our side. I'm not thrilled with the speed of innovation or feature implementations on the user side. I'm sure you can understand my point of view.

+1 I would like to know that as well.

Does this mean increase of storage capacity on Evernote platform moving forward. Do you plan to increase it? Especially in the case of paying customers. Its nice you are making all these changes, but I still don't see much benefits for the end user. Can we expect more storage capacity increase without the clunky and awkward Google Drive sync and also can we expect a two way hassle free sync with the Google Calendar now that Sunrise is shutting down and your are partnering with Google? I would like end users benefits and not simply what benefits the corporations. Google Drive sync for example is far from ideal solution and its a way for Google to sneak in the back door by tempting more users to use more of its storage cloud offerings. I don't want that. I want Evernote to offer more storage directly. Can we expect that. You said that switching to Google Cloud it will be easier to scale and maintain it, so can we expect more storage as well for users? Since you have limited the free users and charged more for the rest of us, at least you can provide some real value in return. Any answer to any of this? Thank you.

Kudos for adding screenshots to what's new. Much appreciated it.

Fully support this except I would like to see colors less saturated or option between the two. Maybe something like this....

Me too. Although I think that anyone who is interested and observant can see the request and make educated guess what the users want the most. So far it seems the company had either unauthorized forum moderators or disinterested decision makers. Probably both. After all one would explain the other.

I'll give credit to some of the bug fixes. I agree they have been fixing some of the nasty bugs especially int he last beta release and quickly made an update to that. Kudos. However I can't agree with they don't have the time. Take Wunderlist to-do-app team. If I'm not mistaken they are just as small if not smaller team than Evernote. But they have one person who is in the comments section and his entire job is to communicate between the developers and users. He is authorized to answer all the users about what the team is doing. He takes as much time as needed and answers virtually every comment, no matter how rude or polite the comment might be. I respect that. And its a two way communication because he takes the user requests to the team in meetings. They have a whole functional system in place for this. And its only one person. Heck, with the number of dedicated user in Evernote and people like you who is counting " 16,242 posts" with no pay I imagine. All they have to do is ask someone like you to act as ambassador between the developers and users. Let them authorize you and problem solved. They have no time is not an excuse I can agree on. I'm sorry. You always have time for things you put first. And Evernote has a long sad history of not putting its users where it should. To quote Henry Ford here: “It is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages.” Judging by the financial troubles in Evernote, maybe its time that some decision maker at the top takes that quote to hearth. With all do respect off course.

Thank you! I was writing precisely that.

That is certainly nice to hear. Can we expect Heading 1,2,3 and paragraph options and ability to apply them easily by right mouse click and some keyboard shortcuts. I haven't used web version of Evernote for some time now, but if I remember correctly there was a right click menu pop up options for text editing. I wouldn't mind that on Desktop. Preferably not English keyboard layout only for obvious reasons if you will add keyboard shortcuts. Superscript, subscript Ability to change the color of the highlighter tool and uppercase only, lower case only etc. The standard tools found in most text editors. Ability to add styles or quote the text would be also nice, but I can live without that if its too much trouble. Although they are available here in the web editor on this forum, and that is just not right. Just make it more convenient to write and format text please with more than the very basic set of features. I don't expect full blown text editor like MS Word, but at least make changes to some of the things I mentioned. Certainly ability to assign paragraphs and heading, sub heading etc with a right click and different colors for highlighter tool which would greatly increase the note taking capabilities of Evernote. Thank you. P.S. Insert horizontal line is a great feature in Evernote that I use often but the keyboard shortcut is only for English layout keyboards. Its useless on a different layout. (Ctrl + Shift + - ) is not working on my Croatian layout keyboard and I'm sure its not the only layout where its not working. Can that be changes to some other keyboard shortcut or as it would be the best allow users to assign their own keyboard shortcuts. Please do something about that. Thank you.

So I guess my first response was my gut instinct being right. Evernote's ability to address the features users actually want is appalling. In some instances they showed good will as by the mentioned user but apparently that is not the same as the overall company policy. It would seem he either acted under different management or on his own. So we cannot really put much hope anymore, that the Evernote team will actually finish their, what is it now "4 year" project with a dedicated team working on it. Ha!

I asked around and some mention it being in the upcoming release Firefox 48 or the one after it 49, which is still a very long time. But at least its something. Shame because I have to use Chrome or opera now only for the Web clipper and its really slowing down the process.