PaceWalker

8 hours ago, jefito said:

Best guess that I have for its absence is that round-tripping markdown <--> ENML is not trivial. As far as I know, Marxico can't do it either. 

That's a rational decision in my book, since Markdown is important to you. for many others of us, it just isn't what we come to use Evernote for. 

Cheers.

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You are right, perhaps for most other users Markdown isn't important and Evernote is just not designed to cater to our niche (Markdown, syntax highlighting, formatting) and for us, it is time to stop hoping and waiting but to leave for good.

I have been with Evernote since the beginning, the very first beta, bought tons of stuff from the old lifestyle store. Got their stickers everywhere on my desk, laptop, fridge....

I would say having to leave Evernote is an emotional one because it is truely a great product.

To evernote:  it is 2018, are you still not doing something about native markdown?

7 hours ago, DTLow said:

I pay the subscription fee for the continued processing of my data.  I need the enhanced featureset and limits

>> I have the right to make noise and express my frustrations

If you say so.  

I use the voting buttons to indicate my support for a request; I’m not into the dramatics

>>Also, i don't want to be told to use another alternative if the feature i expect from a product is not there.

If you’re not interested in the work-arounds, don’t use them.

For  me, I’m not willing to give up on the features I need

Cool , good for you. I think the reason evernote does not improve might be due to users like you, who don't seem to be interested in voicing out and making strong demands so that the product can grow and become better but blindly worshipping evernote as if it has nothing wrong. 

I am not willing to give up on the features i need too, which is markdown support, that is why i am expressing my frustrations using plain language instead of lazily pressing the up button.

I know every possible workarounds, i even wrote some web apps to to write notes with markdown and syntax highlight. But wait a moment, why i should not be the one finding a work-around in the first place ? Shouldn't it be the job of evernote team to support customers with their use cases , provide solutions be it temporary or not and listen to customer's requests ?

Funny story of the day:

One day, a restaraunt run out of salt and served 2 dishes without salt to customers.

Person A talks to the manager demanding a refund or a new dish to be served.

Person B thought to himself :"it is okay, maybe the cook want that dish to be healthier and i can work-around by bringing my own salt"

17 hours ago, DTLow said:

This particular forum has been set up by Evernote for users to post feature requests.  
It's called "Evernote Feature Requests"

In addition to posting requests and votes, users also discuss the issue and explore work arounds
I've learned a lot from the discussions and appreciate the users posting their solutions (member, noteworthy and guru).  I don't feel insulted

>>Nobody, repeat nobody, should be told to use another editor because Evernote is missing functionality.

I recommend using alternate editors.  
I'll add my vote to the request, however I'm not going to be restricted by the limitations in the Evernote editor.  It's ok for basic notes but I often need the features in dedicated apps  

 

I feel that i am paying a yearly subscription because i expect improvements to be made over the years and since i am paying money for improvements and support, i have the right to make noise and express my frustrations in the feature request thread of user forum as much as i want when the feature i want is not implemented over 5+ years.

Also, i don't want to be told to use another alternative if the feature i expect from a product is not there.

3 minutes ago, forLoop said:

Yeah. Exporting data is particularly useful these days when moving all content from Evernote to other platforms who are not using our data for Machine Learning purposes. 

How does machine learning help us taking notes more than features like markdown, headings, nested tags? Can someone explain to me please

10 minutes ago, forLoop said:

Ah! cant remember last time I posted around here about this or the lack of pre formatted headings levels not being available on Desktop apps...

 

Seriously? something fundamental and of utter value to the users is not implemented but their rubbish machine learning into our private content is top priority ???

-Face palm-

I already moved to Bear guys and updates are keep coming. 

The hell with Evernote. 

Bear is a beautiful and clean interface, support Markdown and is on all platforms

 

No brainer. Happy to give them my money and support development, not like this doomed app that asks for the premium price and bluntly ignore customers feedback. 

 

Disappointed at Evernote product management team. Shame on you. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm on Bear too but still keeping Evernote for a while longer until all hope is gone. I really really want to stay at Evernote camp because I have been a premium user since 2011 and quite used to it now.

On 10/08/2017 at 10:45 PM, stuball said:

For me, Markdown is a metaphor for a robust editor that serves a wide range of users (uses), which is sort of how I view Evernote as a product. As for what most users know about markdown (or any existing aspect of Evernote), any product that doesn’t offer users an expanding set of tools to help them expand the value they can create likely has a limited shelf life. 

I really think that it would be wise to quickly make markdown available before products like Bear take away those of us programmers forever, you know it is quite troublesome (the mere thought of doing that is a burden) to migrate to another platform once you already accumulated a pile of programming notes and snippets. We REALLY need the markdown and code highlighting.   

18 minutes ago, Metrodon said:

And my guess is a very very small %...

The vast majority of normal human beings have never even heard of markdown. Nerds like it (I like it), but my non-nerdy friends and family wouldn't have a clue what it is.

This is indeed very true. Even my nerdy friends(computer science majors) have no clue what is a markdown. 

But I got this theory that many digital markers and nerds like myself promoting Evernote rely on markdown to write their blog posts (just a theory, no evidence) and to store their coding notes since there's a high chance they are the ones teaching their family, friends, colleges how to use Evernote + introducing Evernote to the non-nerds, it makes sense to make these group of people happy first because they bring in new customers and their job rely on certain features? 

Just a thought though, maybe the truth is far from that.

PS: i'm the one making everyone around to start using evernote and ignore stuff like onenote and apple note.

If it's too challenging to build markdown on top of existing enml ,would it be possible to hav3 a new note type like how you cr3ate a handwriting note? Then don't have to worry about compatibility/web clipping issu3s .