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  1. My understanding is that Evernote 10 uses Electron and is mainly written in JavaScript. This means that supporting Katex would require very limited effort for the Evernote team. As an example, Joplin, supports Katex along with many other Evernote features with only one developer for the whole project (and it does not have the performance problems of Evernote 10!)

    You could argue that only a small % of the Evernote user base would use math equations, but that is true of many features in Evernote. Code block formatting is only used by a minority of users (software developers). Spell checking in Dutch is only used by a small % of users (mainly from the Netherlands) but I believe it is supported. With any complex application like Evernote any single user uses a small % of the features. So just because you don't want maths equations does not mean it does not make sense for Evernote to support it. Live and let live?

     

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  2. On 1/22/2021 at 11:34 AM, Mike P said:

    There has been some discussion as to where the boundary line is between a general purpose note taking/storage app and a more sophisticated and specialised app. For example I've seen requests for a greater selection of fonts, language specific formatting of code blocks etc etc. Because of users different specialist needs I doubt whether we would all ever agree on what is core so Evernote will have to decide and we can go elsewhere if we disagree.

    Going forward I would hope that the new architecture will allow much tighter integration with other apps. This would potentially allow the embedding of all sorts of contents seamlessly. We've already seen this, for example, with YouTube videos that can now be played within the note. This sounds like a better solution than asking Evernote to introduce something which is probably only going to be used by a small number of users and for which they have no expertise.

     

    LaTeX/Mathjax would be incredibly useful to anyone who needs to use math in their notes. That is a lot of people given that most university courses include some math. 

    The embedding solution does not work for math notation, I have tried it. It is similar to saying that you need to embed a file to use capital letters. It is so awkward to do that you just don't bother. 

    I have been using Evernote for more than 10 years and been waiting to recommend it to colleagues and students when LaTeX is supported ... maybe it will happen one day. If asked I point them to Joplin or Bear as similar apps but with LaTeX support.

    If Evernote could implement something like the Typora approach to math notation it would attract a new set of users.

     

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  3. 17 minutes ago, gazumped said:

    find a better app.

    As I said, the response on this forum is "go use different software" - except that the "Gurus"  can never say it as succinctly as that. We then get the long list of excuses for Evernote. Not very useful (compared, for example, with https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/ which is succinct and incredibly helpful - maybe Evernote needs an independent forum...). I digress; my experience is that Evernote has many more bugs than other apps I use. But there is no point in reporting them if all you get is a lot of waffle and excuses.  So I wont bother and will say no more ...

  4. I think your question is a fair one. Evernote has a surprising number of bugs for a mature software product. All software has bugs, but most users should not see them on a daily basis if the product is mature and has been well managed. My use of Evernote is that of an average user, but I have had to find workarounds to a number of bugs in the editor that impede daily use and put up with the unpredictable behaviour of the user interface. I can live with it and will continue to use Evernote, but I don't recommend others to use it. Many aspects of the product are excellent, but I find the bugs lower productivity and undermine confidence in the product. My guess is that many users just don't bother to report bugs anymore, because they don't get fixed and on this forum the advice is usually to go and use other software if you don't like Evernote. I do like the concept, design and the implementation of the "backend" system of Evernote but the windows client implementation is not of comparable quality to other software I use on a daily basis.

  5. Hi, the support for Latex is fantastic with this app. I have dreamed of Evernote supporting Latex, but never expected it to happen.
     
    With the Evernote web client I found that it would render any equation however complex. However, to get the same result on the Windows 7 client required me to install the right fonts. It seems that Marxico uses MathJax to render the latex. After installing the correct fonts I could get all the examples at http://www.mathjax.org/demos/tex-samples/ to work (as far as I can tell Marxico supports everything from MathJax except automatic equation numbering - you can use \tag to do it by hand).
     
    The steps I followed were
    1. Partial solution - MathJax - MathJax Font Help - advice is to go to STIX website to get the install - I did this, and it half worked, there seeemed to be fonts missing, eg STIXMathJax_Size2-Regular.otf. To get it fully working needed the additional steps below (this first step may have been redundant).
    2. Download latest MathJax from Installing and Testing MathJax — MathJax 2.4 documentation - DO NOT INSTALL.
    3. Find the otf folder - \MathJax-2.4-latest.zip\MathJax-2.4-latest\fonts\HTML-CSS\TeX\otf
    4. Install all of these using instructions at Install or uninstall fonts.
    5. Then everything seems to render perfectly in Evernote on the PC - still a few problems on Android.

    Has anyone else had to go through the same process? Is there an easier way and how do you do it with the Evernote Android client?

     

    Hope this is useful.

    Peter.

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