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ScottLougheed

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  1. Like many chrome extensions, it seems to be little more than a fancy bookmark for Evernote's web interface.
  2. No problem at all. I'd say that Evernote does a reasonably good job of listening to the feedback from their community of users, but I'd say they don't necessarily always implement that feedback, or act on it swiftly. The leadership seem pretty convinced about their choices on where the applications and service ought to go, but from time to time they do relent to their users! One recent example is the configurable toolbar on the Evernote Mac Client. A few years ago the made it non-configurable, and for those few years users very vocally requested they make it editable again. Several developers for the Mac App even explained how challenging such a feature would be to implement and that was one reason why they continued to not make the toolbar configurable. Then, last month, suddenly, we have a configurable toolbar. Who knows what it was that tripped the switch but, whatever it was, users now have a configurable toolbar. Not saying they aren't arrogant, they may well be, but they certainly do listen, and sometimes they even act on what they hear!
  3. There are probably hundreds of oft-requested features that have not been implemented by Evernote. Only Evernote knows why! I am not sure if users with low post counts can edit titles but I've gone ahead and added [Feature Request] to the title of your post for you, I hope that is alright!
  4. This is an often requested feature, and has been for years. Unfortunately you are limited to the sorting options available for a given view (List view gives the most options, but none are manual or custom). Lots of workarounds discussed for manually sorting, but they are all... well... workarounds, and so not necessarily satisfying.
  5. This isn't possible at the moment. You'll have to add the scannable scan as a separate note and use the web or desktop application to merge or just drag the attachment to the other note. On your phone: Possibly you could take the scannable scan, add it as an attachment to a new note, select the attachment in the note body, copy it, and paste it into your meeting notes note. Then delete the now-superfluous scannable scan note you just copied the attachment from.
  6. If that was the default, then a bunch of people would be scrambling to switch to whatever their preferred layout it. Defaults are tricky and it is impossible to find a default that pleases everyone. As it stands it is so easy to change between the layouts that I am positively indifferent over the default. The other thing is that once you've set a layout, you shouldn't have to change it unless you reinstall the application, which under normal circumstances isn't a regular occurrence.
  7. You might not need to do a backup of your Evernote database on your computer. Log into the web interface of Evernote and confirm that all of your notes are present there. If stye are all there you can uninstall and re-install the evernote application on your windows machine without needing to backup. (That being said, having backups of your computer is generally good practice so if you don't already have a backup system in place, you should consider doing so)
  8. Broken in what way? does it clip at all? Does it launch but not clip? Does it clip but clip badly? Does it clip but cause a crash? Have you tried disabling/re-enabling the extension? Have you tried uninstalling and re-installing the extension?
  9. Yup, I agree with Metrodon, and this seems to be the general consensus. Given what Evernote offers on the Desktop in terms of security, securing your user account is really the only sure-fire way of securing the contents of your Evernote application. Thankfully such security measures have many additional benefits. But, until Evernote decides to implement a passcode lock on the desktop, or something similar–IF they choose to–this is all we've got!
  10. See, that's the part that gets me. I'm not comfortable putting insurance forms, receipts, etc. in Evernote for the reason above, so I'm finding myself increasingly forced to look into other solutions like devonthink as I attempt to become more organized. I guess I'm surprised that you have security concerns that apply to student work, but not your own financial documents? Is the sharing functionality really useful enough trade-off for that risk? I don't see my insurance as being the same as financial information. My financial records do not go in Evernote. Sure, insurance contains personal info, but not in the same level of detail nor the same potential impact as detailed financial info. (Ironically, all of my banking and investments are stored on a cloud operated by my financial institutions, so... hard to know precisely how much more secure they are there!). Also, I am willing to take the heat for losing my own data. I refuse to put other people's data at risk.
  11. I suppose since this is an Evernote forum I might be smart to relate this back to Evernote. Continuing from my descriptions above, it might be worth inquiring, can this be reasonably approximated by Evernote? And if Evernote could reasonably approximate this functionality in these use cases, would it then still be a suitable option. Evernote cannot index files outside of its database. Most of the literature I describe in the first use case is "indexed" (in the DEVONThink use of the term). That is, it resides in an arbitrary folder on my computer's hard drive (in this case, my personal literature collection in Dropbox, or a shared folder with my collaborators in Dropbox). Because 1) some of this literature is in a shared folder, and 2) I periodically like to access my own literature from other devices such as my iPad, it is fairly important to me that the files can live wherever I want them to. This is especially critical for the shared files, since I cannot impose organizational schemes and software on my collaborators. It would not 1) be reasonable to ask them to use Evernote,as would be required if I wanted to keep those files in Evernote and then share them with my collaborators; 2) it would be immensely inefficient to duplicate the contents of that shared folder in another program (not to mention a waste of space). Evernote has "context" but it: 1) may suggest outside sources if you've configured it as such, and those sources are not appropriate for the work I do; 2) presents a small number of related notes or other content but the relationship does not seem to be as strong as the relationships identified in DT, which also presents a larger number of suggestions (and ranks them so you can see how related they are); 3) Does not offer any automated facilitation of organization. It relies on the user's own recollection of their taxonomical scheme and cannot make any suggestions to facilitate that process. If the user's organizational scheme in DEVONThink is reasonably carefully constructed (and you follow a couple of minor suggestion from DT's documentation), the Classify feature really speeds things up and I rarely have to think too hard about what belongs where. In addition to academic literature, I have a growing amount of research data that contains potentially identifying and proprietary information on somewhat sensitive subject matter. I cannot store these on third-party servers , let alone third-party servers in another country, for various legal and common sense reasons. I appreciate being able to apply the same retrieval and organizational techniques facilitated by See Also & Classify on those research data for preliminary analysis prior to dumping them into my qualitative data analysis software, and for long-term storage after analysis. Even if Evernote were to be able to perform the "AI" functionality in the same way that DT does, the less robust database integrity and the more-or-less non-optional cloud storage would preclude my use of it in this case. This is also true of my second example related to teaching. It would be unwise to place student's data in a cloud service. Sure, the students probably worked on it in a dropbox or OneDrive folder, but in that instance they would be losing their own data if something went awry. I'm not interested in broadcasting tens of students work and personal information in one fell swoop should there be a glitch or hack! So again, Evernote gets some stuff, but for these more complex tasks, Evernote either lacks the functionality, doesn't comply with the rules of my institution or the law, or both. But what does Evernote do very well? Sharing with other Evernote users. This is where DEVONThink doesn't perform so well, and indeed I don't think it even attempts to. DEVONThink allows me to use DT on files and my collaborators are none-the-wisers. This is okay for some stuff, but not for all. My partner and I keep all our household documentation (insurance forms, car and veterinary receipts, recipes, records of wines we enjoyed, events we might be planning, etc) in Evernote. Evernote does an amazing job here because we can add things and be assured that the other has them too. Clipping on mobile and desktop is great for recipes and event planning. The mobile apps make scanning items with our phone and tossing them into EN a breeze. We also almost always do most of our retrieval of recipes and many other documents on our mobile devices rather than desktop. Here again, EN wins out. EN and DT also share some elements that, when combined with EN's unique advantages make it especially suited to some use-cases. Tags are effective so our Cooking notebook is well-organized and it is easy to retrieve meals or use tags as criteria for searching. Cooking also gets all of our wine notes, easily excluded using tags (-tag:wine) or easily retrieved (tag:wine). It also makes the images of wine labels searchable, which DT does not do in quite the slick way (I could convert it to a PDF using DT but I find DT is better at converting scanned text to text, rather than images which happen to contain text, but again, the sharing in DT is lacking anyway). It seems ironic to me, however, that while Evernote is increasingly pushing into work/enterprise, it is precisely those elements of my life that I've extracted from Evernote for various reasons (data integrity and security being critical, but just the start!). Evernote has proven itself immensely useful for exactly the type of thing Libin has in mind as he attempts to "shift from a consumer tool also used by businesses into one with workers in mind". For me, Evernote has shifted from being a work tool in which I also manage my household, to simply a household management tool. DEVONThink is the tool that fuels my work (and some aspects of my personal) productivity, but is less good for many of the household management tasks Evernote continues to excel at.
  12. I primarily do social scientific research (if you're tuned into such things, we could say, broadly, I do some brand of Environmental Sociology/"Science and Technology in Society"). I have, and continue to, accumulate a very extensive library of digitized academic books and electronic journal articles. The breadth of the subject matter covered by this collection exceeds what any single manuscript or project would cover. That being said, there is considerable overlap. I use "classify" (the top portion of the "See Also & Classify" pane) for helping me decide into which group/tag a new addition to my collection should be deposited. Sometimes it's the top suggestion, often its not (but this might me more indicative of a shortcoming of my organizational scheme than of the predictive capacity of the program). I use "See also" primarily when I am consulting the literature for a new project or manuscript. In general I know the canonical texts for a given area and retrieve those first either through browsing or search (e.g., "Beck 1992" or simply "Beck" will bring up texts authored by Ulrich Beck, Or "Governmentality" will return Mitchell Dean's seminal elaboration on Foucault's theory of Governmentality usually as top results). However, it can be a bit laborious to locate in my rather large database, related materials. "see also" brings related content right up front, and you can get into a bit of a "rabbit hole" of sorts (which, in this case, is a good thing), as you locate a new article, use the "see also" on that to find another article or three, and use "see also", and so on. So, used in conjunction with groups and tags, see also can surface a lot of relevant content quickly and without much manual intervention. It can often surface material that I might not have thought to consult, either because it had been a long time since I last read the article/book, or because I hadn't read it yet (I hate to admit I have a few too many articles I've nabbed but not read in their entirety), or because they are one section in a larger book or edited volume the title of which is not indicative of the diverse contents, and so on. Moreover, it can surface reading notes on articles as well, which I also store in DT. So instead of re-reading entire articles, I can often consult the reading notes I have (and those contain a link to the original PDF if I need to consult that). So that's one way I use the see also and classify. In general I find it very effective for this use case. It's capabilities are not necessarily easily reproduced, not even, say, by an elaborate search language. Indeed, the DT system is much more familiar with the contents of every single article and book in my database than I am and can identify links between articles that I couldn't think to search for. Basically it helps me find more related content to read, and it does a remarkably good job of it. Another way I use it is for some elements of the teaching I do. For example, a course I was a teaching assistant for required students to write three iterations of a complex essay. I put each iteration in their own folder (Essay 1, essay 2, essay 3). When it came to mark the 2nd or 3rd essays, DT would automatically surface the previous draft (or two drafts) in the "see also" so rather than having to locate it manually to consult and examine the extent of the students' revisions, I could just access it from the See Also pane. This might seem trivial, but the 30 seconds per essay it saves is significant when you have to do it for 40 essays on two different occasions (e.g., the second and third submissions).
  13. Ah, yes, that makes sense. In my scanning of the posts to catch up with the discussion I didn't think to follow a link to another discussion thread for this type of info!
  14. two-factor authentication will affect ALL devices and platforms you attempt to log in with, including applications on your mobile devices, installed on your desktop, or accessed through your browser.
  15. @JMPlease read the thread again. The date of 2000 is clearly written there. If you prefer to rely upon Wikipedia, then maybe I can go over there and change the date to 2000 so that everyone will then be in agreement I hate to perpetuate what has now diverged from the main topic of discussion, but GM, are you referring to the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evernote ? If so, I actually can't find 2000 mentioned anywhere which now has me puzzled.
  16. Whether it is truly AI or not is certainly an interesting question to pursue and is something worth exploring. However, I am largely uninterested in the name and much more interested in whether and how it fits into my workflow and enhances my productivity. So, whether it is really Artificial Intelligence, or whether it's a clever name for "word association" is irrelevant to me if it makes me work better, which it does!
  17. Valiant and certainly legitimate, but I'm going to devote my energy towards using the so-called AI, erroneous name or not, to completing my work!
  18. In general the use of the term AI has been intended to refer to the feature called AI by DEVONThink (and, subsequently, other people's use of "AI" to refer to similar features). While I can't speak for GM, I certainly did not mean to suggest that this truly was some form of AI, as I am not knowledgeable enough to make any accurate claims about what is or is not AI. Just using the noun that the company tosses around.
  19. Wasn't my claim, just suggesting that might have been the intended meaning.
  20. "Related Notes" existed for a number of years prior to the release of "context" in 2014, which was basically the same as Context minus the media tie-ins. I suppose this could be considered a degree of AI but it isn't nearly as robust, as DT's which I'm sure you've discovered in your DT adventures!
  21. no problem and good luck! Sometimes it can take a while to make the images searchable because it all has to be processed on Evernote's servers first, then synced back down to your device.
  22. EF looks interesting and certainly shares some similarities with DT (Just as Evernote does). However, as far as I can tell there is none of the Artificial Intelligence in EF that DT has, which has become critical to my workflow. While EF is a bit less expensive and includes PDFPen OCR, PDFPen has routinely performed with less accuracy than ABBYY OCR that is included with DEVONThink Pro Office, which I use. EF looks like a great alternative for some people who aren't in need of some of the more complexity-inducing features in DEVONThink. Unfortunately I need those complexity-inducing features. Ah, and upon closer inspection, it looks as though EF doesn't support "Indexing" (the term DEVONThink uses for referencing files in place in the original file system). My DEVONThink Pro Office content are a mix of imported and indexed items. Not having the option to "index" files in place is a deal breaker for me. Just a note that while it does "index" the files in that it maintains an index, from what you've linked to there I understand that the files it indexes are in the EF Library, specifically, and must reside within that library file on the hard disk. In other words, it "indexes" in the true sense of the word, but it doesn't appear to allow you to reference a file in an arbitrary directory on your computer. DT allows you to reference a directory on your computer's hard drive, which it treats as if it were part of its own database or library. This means you can store your files in any directory you want, such as if you need to leave them in a shared Dropbox folder (or any Dropbox folder!), but still use DT to search, categorize, retrieve, and use the AI to organize or figure out where to put new files. Anyway, EF looks like a great application.
  23. Any photo will be "OCRd" by Evernote. Those images you have in your camera roll could just be attached to a note and they will become searchable within Evernote. The optimizations you have seen applied to other photos would likely increase the accuracy of the OCR, but it isn't necessary per se. I use quotes on OCR because it isn't exactly like OCR in the way that we might think (a la ABBYY or Adobe), as it doesn't embed a layer of text in the image that follows the file around. Take the image out, or open it in preview, and it is no longer searchable.
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