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ScottLougheed

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  1. I disagree that implementing encryption "would negate the majority of the features that Evernote has to offer". The ONLY feature that encryption negates is Search of the data that is encrypted. Also, OCR'ing images, generating "related notes"/"Context" suggestions. You'd also be unable to email or clip into encrypted notebooks. Yes, you could allow users to make some notebooks zero-knowledge encrypted and others not, but this seems like it could be immensely confusing for some users who, for some reason they may not fully understand, find that some images or PDFs or DOCX files aren't indexed and others are, and why the email they sent to an encrypted notebook ended up in their default notebook (which could never likely be ZK encrypted), or why only some of their notebooks show up in their web clipper, and so on. Maybe it wouldn't be confusing at all though. Perhaps the users who are inclined to employ zero-knowledge encryption will be savvy enough to fully understand the implications. But at the same time, it isn't just savvy users who need or could benefit from zero-knowledge encryption. As JM suggests, you could encrypt the contents and not the metadata to facilitate some retrieval, and indeed this seems much more viable than the new, emergent, potentially expensive, yet-to-be-implimented-anywhere technology that Eric99 mentioned. However, leaving metadata unencrypted is also problematic for several reasons: 1) metadata could contain sensitive information as well, especially if the note contents are sensitive. 2) It seems like a bit of a mess trying to explain to users during the course of their use of the app that the contents, but not the metadata, are encrypted, and this is definitely something that Evernote would need to inform users of. 3) Still precludes emailing/clipping/any other server side additions to that specific notebook, you'd have to toss it into an unencrypted notebook first, defeating the purpose (though then again, anything you are clipping or email already existed on an unencrypted cloud anyway so perhaps this isn't an issue? the exception would be content clipped from intranets) Altogether the lack of ZK encryption is an issue for me insofar as I am unable to store large portions of my work in Evernote, however I've since found better options where encryption isn't an issue and that are superior products for my work needs. Even if Evernote implemented zero-knowledge encryption I'd probably still not return my work content to Evernote.
  2. My understanding is that the encryption is zero-knowledge and easily done for OneNote, so you might not find that you have much to worry about after all. I wouldn't put anything sensitive on anyone else's servers unless it was encrypted. Good point . . . that's something I wasn't aware of. I'm wondering why Evernote skipped over that feature. My apologies for going a little off-topic, by the way. Implementing that feature would negate the majority of the features that Evernote has to offer. This is because a large portion of Evernote's features require server-side access to your note content to do the indexing and OCRing and whatnot. Having users choose between not encrypting their data, or encrypting their data and getting none of the features they pay for is a pretty ugly pair of decisions. The solution is local processing of these things, but that comes with other major downsides (and would likely severely handicap the functionality of their mobile applications) and can't replace all of the server-side processes that plus/premium users pay for (as well as those that benefit free users). I agree, good, (ideally) zero-knowledge encryption is super important, but I think Evernote is a long way away from doing it (in fact, I don't think they ever will). In the meantime there are other options for storing sensitive data.
  3. Style - Highlight: Adds a yellow highlight to the selected text. Simplify Formatting This will "convert an entire note into a default font size, font color, and line spacing while retaining basic rich text formatting (bold, italics, underline, hyperlinks, and bullet points)." (https://evernote.com/evernote/guide/windows/#3) This might produce no difference on notes you compose entirely in Evernote. However, if you were to apply this to a web clipping or, say, copy and paste this forum thread into a note, then "Simply formatting" on that, you'd see a dramatic difference. Make Plan Text This does exactly what it says it does. It strips all formatting from the text and makes it truly, honest to goodness plain text (Wikipedia link). This has no formatting whatsoever and can be copied easily into .txt files, for example. Three very different formatting options, if you ask me.
  4. I'm with you on this. It took a while to get used to how to make tagging and searching work, but I'm wholeheartedly with you: As few notebooks as possible, careful tag use, and search. It is an amazingly effective strategy for me.
  5. As you note, this has been discussed at great, great, length. As far as I have heard, there is unsurprisingly no news on whether or not this will be implemented. Evernote are famously tight-lipped about their future plans so I don't think we'll here any news until its already in our laps. I also think it is unlikely we'll see it (in the near future), as Evernote has historically expressed little interest in adding hierarchy. That being said, anything is possible and Evernote has periodically done things it previously expressed no interest in. That being said, I suggest that you avoid investing your time (and money?) in something in the hopes that they add features you think are mission critical, and rather evaluate it for the features that currently exist. The future is never certain, and there's no point in banking time and money on it if you can avoid it. If you cannot adapt to the flat taxonomy offered by Evernote, you'd be best to consider other options, the majority of which offer hierarchical taxonomies. There's an extensive discussion of alternatives here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/66103-power-user-discontent-best-alternatives-to-en/page-32#entry370216
  6. Scott, thanks for another great post. Lots of great insight there. I look forward to your new article. Please post a link to it here when published. JMichael, As per, here's the link to part 1 of a set of two posts in which I rather haphazardly make contrasts between Evernote and DEVONthink, based on thoughts off the top of my head. It's a bit "back of the napkin", but the point is to highlight how the two applications (or an application and a service) can work together to serve the breadth of an individual's set of needs. Evernote and DEVONthink Part I Part two coming next week. Thank for your interest and I hope this helps people understand better where Evernote can sit in their workflow, even if they use another "similar" (though I argue not at all similar) application.
  7. Agreed, if templates are important to your workflow, Evernote isn't really amenable to that. Maybe in the future.
  8. First: You can make things a bit more streamlined, for example by hiding the right hand sidebar. This give more room for the notes list and note content. You can even hide the toolbar, so you'd end up with a window that looks like this: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABmDvgcbgEtEgb0tXaMQt0lybeF54UNqKls Second: If you look at the massive discussion threads on this community, you will see that not everyone is as keen on the new Web interface as you are. Evernote really needs to tread a fine balance here. I'm sure space could be used more effectively in Evernote than it currently is, but I think going for the sparse, "everything is hidden until you mouse over" type scheme of the web might be a bit extreme for some users. Third: You don't want new features, except you want them to add a Template feature. So do you want no new features, or do you want your features added? It's a bit silly to say "no features except the ones I want". That being said templates do seem to be often requested, and there are a few workarounds, though I'm sure your already aware of them (workarounds being inconvenient by nature, I can see why you'd want official support): http://neseco.com/sw/evernote-templates/ http://lifehacker.com/5952540/get-things-done-with-evernote-using-templates https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/26850-archived-tip-evernote-templates-lets-share-some/ http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=459 http://www.jamierubin.net/2012/08/22/my-shared-templates-notebook-for-evernote/
  9. Scott, thanks for another great post. Lots of great insight there. I look forward to your new article. Please post a link to it here when published. Cheers!
  10. In addition to the great post that GM has made highlighting some of the differences and similarities, I'd like to also through out a few important differences. One of Evernote's major advantages is the simplicity and seamlessness of how it synchronizes. Much of this is made possible by virtue of the fact that it largely removes control of the files from the file system into its own database and makes files more-or-less inaccessible outside of Evernote (this is much less of an issue on the Mac compared to iOS, but it still does add some significant clumsiness to editing attachments on the Mac). This is not necessarily a problem for some things or certain workflows (I annotate a lot of PDFs for research, so the "attachment" thing is annoying, but I rarely make changes to PDFs of recipes so in this case Evernote works great), but it does significantly reduce flexibility, and I find the "attachment" approach to be a bit clumsy for very important or large numbers of documents. DEVONthink on the other hand does have the ability to manage your files in a database, but also the ability to reference those files in the file system. It also doesn't really rely on the "attachment" approach and offers true native support for files (as an academic, I'm sure PDFs are your bread and butter). I actually recently wrote about an academic workflow involving DEVONthink and links to PDF pages here: Summarizing Academic Literature with OmniOutliner and DEVONthink This COULD be done in Evernote, either as the source of your Pdfs, the destination for your notes, or both, though it handles PDFs less well and the links are not page-specific, and it doesn't handle outlines as well as OmniOutliner. So this workflow could be roughly reproduced using Evernote in either the reading or the outlining role. As someone who has transitioned from using solely Evernote to a combination of DEVONthink (personal and work) and Evernote (Personal only), I've been meaning to write a bit about that, perhaps by the end of the week.
  11. Where is Evernote Support here? While Evernote Staff do participate in some threads, there are no staff in this one. Other than Gazumped asking for the OP for why this is important, the general consensus in this thread seems to be that extracting text is a useful feature that isn't available (and like will never be available) in Evernote. There are alternatives for extracting text from images.
  12. Indeed, it looks like it is broken. However, it appears as though when annotating a file in Evernote for iPad you can tap the ellipsis (Three dots) and you have the option to disable the annotation summary.... you might need to do some poking around since I don't have the screenshot or my own iPad in front of me at the moment so I might have the exact location incorrect.
  13. I have no problem getting results based on titles. If i have a note with the title "This is a title" and I search for the string, in quotes "This is a title", i'll get that note. You could also try: intitle:<query> to ensure that the search ONLY searches note titles to reduce false positives.
  14. BAM there we go! Thanks for posting this, I should have done my homework!
  15. You'll have to check, as I don't currently have my iPad handy, but I don't believe it is available.
  16. When you enter the annotation screen for a PDF using Evernote annotation system, there is a checkbox at the bottom of the annotation window. If you do NOT want an annotation summary, check the box: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABny9xIPu0ZCfoOMXS1MyJJej9SWlCYPkpw This appears to also work retroactively (at least in my one test). If you have a document that has an annotation summary, and you then later un-check the "Include annotation summary" box, the summary will be removed.
  17. There's no reason to go to Evernote Web to get links. In the Mac App: (For a link useable for yourself or someone you share a notebook/note with privately) 1) Select a note 2) cmd-opt-ctrl-c to copy "private" note link 3) paste link in the application of your choice, such as the URL or Notes field of a calendar event or Omnifocus action. 4) On an iOS device or Mac with Evernote installed and recently synced, tap the link you've pasted in your calendar or task manager and you'll be taken to that note in the Evernote application (you might bounce to the web first, then be directed to the app, unfortunately... something that changed in the last year or so). (For a link usable by anyone, regardless of whether they are an Evernote user, and regardless of if the note has been privately shared with them): 1) The same as above except use the cmd-/ hotkey to copy the link. On iOS: 1) enter any note (ensure you are not in "edit" mode, e.g., ensure the keyboard is hidden/dismissed) 2) Tap the three dots in bottom right 3) Tap "Share" 4) from the bottom row of options (black and white) select "copy link". This might require scrolling to the side a bit. 5) Select Private (If it is just for you, or for someone who has access to this notebook because it is shared with them) or Public (for anyone else) 6) Paste the link wherever you see fit, such as the URL/Note of a calendar event or in the note field of an action in your task manager. No need to go to the web interface to retrieve the link! (The links are long, true, but since you're copy-pasting everything, the length isn't a terribly big deal). Evernote has data on usage and use cases. We don't. Hard for those of us who lack data to tell those with data what they should do. All we can do is ask for what we need based on our needs, since we can't accurately speculate about the needs of others.
  18. Sunrise Calendar: https://calendar.sunrise.am Offers a bit of integration with Evernote (among many others) and is available on the platforms you need.
  19. On the Mac, with your cursor in the body of a note, do you not see this?: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABm3IDUguGFN-Y_i8AtmlcC3AoiT2FmmNPk It doesn't appear to be possible to make tables on iOS, though you can edit existing tables. (I rarely, if ever, make tables so maybe there's a way to make a new one that is not obvious).
  20. I don't understand, you can still show your notebook list in the lefthand side bar (Right-click on "Notebooks" and select "Show Notebook List" to display your notebooks in the LHS.
  21. Ah good point. I almost only ever navigate between notebooks using the sidebar so I didn't even think about your suggestion!
  22. I don't think it is a feature. I think it is a consequence of how their search works. For example if I search "$10", I get results that have "10" whether or not it is prefixed with a $. It seems that these characters are just rejected from search queries, but the other parts of the query will be located. I haven't run into many problems because of this limitation, but it sounds like it is preventing you from finding what you need? What types of queries are you using that contain solely those special characters? Could you describe the circumstances you might make such a query? Maybe there's some other way to perform the searches you need that is more effective?
  23. Have you hidden your sidebar by accident? Try cmd-opt-s or View>Show Sidebar (May be "Hide sidebar")
  24. Thats pretty normal. It will sync when you close the app, and it will initiate a sync when yours-open the application. Sync also happens rather quickly and sometimes in (more or less) realtime. Realtime in that if you edit a note and leave that note, that note will sync, so that content won't be synced when you close the app since its already updated. Unless you've made a change to a very large attachment, or added a ton of new content, most of the changes you can make on mobile will be quite small. Quite likely there's actually much less syncing to do when you leave the application than you think. Most notes updated in a given "session" will likely have already been uploaded, and any changes made to a note immediately prior to leaving the application will be minor and, on most internet connection, be done in almost no time at all. If you aren't losing data then there's likely nothing wrong.
  25. Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into DEVONThink. I enjoyed the traditional tree hierarchy design in OneNote and would have made the full transition from Evernote, which I've used for years, to OneNote if the syncing function across devices was more reliable. The online version is passable but the offline apps don't sync well. Be aware that DEVONthink is not a cloud service. If sync is important to you, if it is critical to your workflow, DEVONthink will not work for you. Evernote really has sync and sharing (more or less) nailed. Keep that in mind.
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