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  1. directions already posted and pinned to the top of this forum: Opting into (and out of) the new Web Beta
  2. I'm sorry, I'm not being clear. There are two separate sets of ellipsis depicted in the first screenshot below: 1) the green ellipses that appear when you are viewing a note in Evernote 2) The grey ellipses that appear in the share menu that can be invoked in almost any app. It is the grey ellipses that I am referring to. see the first screenshot: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABk0PYh7mCFKDbEA8WmhyGLzqr35anEBEOw In the second screenshot, you'll see the menu that is available when you tap the bottom of the two grey ellipses. Does this clear up what I am referring to? Now, all that being said, I haven't had luck getting the PDF converter extension to successfully convert a PDF. When I hit the extension it wants a note link, I select Private, and it appears to be working away at converting, but then it never does.
  3. That screenshot is from ios 8.0.2 and EN 7.5.1 Have you scrolled down the row with mail, print, text, to the ellipsis (three dots)? Keeping in mind that PDF converter appears on,y in the bottom row's ellipsis menu, NOT the top row's ellipsis.
  4. When you click the share button you should be presented with two rows of apps. At the end of each row is an ellipsis button. Tap that ellipsis to show a list of applications with available extensions. PDFS converter will be in the ellipsis on the bottom of the two rows. From here you can toggle PDF Converter from the list here, and it will appear in the bottom row as pictured in the screenshot. That being said, I haven't had any luck converting to a PDF today, this is the first I've ever tried though. I am also using PDF converter Beta which might have some bugs. Desktop would be the most reliable way at the moment I think.
  5. No Evernote client has native pdf conversion, however third parties (including your desktop operating system) do offer such a possibility. On iPad, I'd recommend an application like Readdle's PDF converter: PDF Converter - Save Documents, Web Pages, Photos to PDF by Readdle https://appsto.re/ca/3t3QA.i With the new iOS 8 update, you should be able to enable PDF Converter in the share menu in Evernote by opening the share menu, tapping the ellipsis, and toggling Pdf converter on. Here's a screenshot with PDF Converter added to the Share menu in Evernote: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s25/sh/06c8041b-a134-402a-860a-075c71393b55/bfb562ccec4e7fd665d1df85bfd70bbf Alternatively you can use your desktop to perform this. Load the note you want, select print, and on Mac, you can just save it to a pdf using the drop down menu in the bottom left.
  6. I just opened a PDF attached to an Evernote note in another application (PDF Expert 5). So this doesn't seem to be a limitation I'm experiencing. However, when you say "document" are you referring to an Evernote Note itself? Then indeed the options are limited, but they are about equivalent to the options on the desktop version. Though with some third-party extensions for iOS coming out, I have some options I didn't have a few months ago. For example, it now appears I can export a note directly to Pocket. This might be because Pocket is great at saving web content, and Evernote notes are formatted, under the hood, very similarly to web content.
  7. You have a 60mb upload limit each month as a free user. That means you can add 60mb of content to your Evernote account each month. You also have a 25mb note size limit as a free user. If you are trying to create a single note (e.g., by making a single clipping), of many, very high resolution images, then it is conceivable that you might exceed 25mb in one clip. If possible it might be better to either: 1) Capture the content in multiple clippings, thus creating several notes less than 25mb, and thus staying within the limits of a free account. 2) Place the content in Evernote by some other means, such as by saving the images to your hard drive first, then adding them individually to notes. Keeping in mind that if the material you are trying to clip equals 25mb, you'll be eating up nearly half of this month's upload quota. If you think you will be routinely exceeding 60mbs of content per month, and you need to add multiple high-resolution images to a single note exceeding 25mb, you may be wise to upgrade to Premium. Premium users can add up to 4gb per month, and a single note can be up to 100mb. You can get premium one month at a time, so for example, if you have a lot of information to add to Evernote initially, say at the beginning of your class, you might want a month of premium to get over that initial hurdle. You can drop down to free once the flow into Evernote slows down. Once content is in Evernote, it doesn't go away and doesn't count against your quota, so you can load 4gb in the first month, drop down to free (60mbs) and that first 4gb of content you added will still be available for you. Here is a listing of all the limits of the various subscription levels, this may help you understand what you can and cannot do with a free account: https://evernote.com/contact/support/kb/#!/article/23283158
  8. Glad you got it figured out! I LOVE this tech stuff so I'm happy to help
  9. Ah, I see what's happening. You're clicking the Evernote Helper in the ​menu bar (that persistent bar at the top of your Mac's computer screen). You need to click the elephant in Safari's toolbar. Wrong Elephant: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABm7FPtdovpKipzBql1CUl_qYMUD49xMX8M Correct elephant: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABmpPjTk2A1J84g4vR_bGsIW9pRnVgKag00 If you do not see the correct elephant in your toolbar, you can right click anywhere on the toolbar and select "customize toolbar", and from the set of icons that appears, you can drag the Evernote Clipper elephant icon to your toolbar.
  10. I'm not sure if I understand what you are seeing. The clipper for Safari, when I invoke it as if to clip this very forum topic, looks like this: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABnisoEJoHpGDakkU_kYV7nA8VKZtUCS8WU However, when you launch the clipper for the very first time, you will need to enter your Evernote username and password. Once you've entered that you should see the window I have included in the link above. For more information on how to use the clipper see the following guide: https://evernote.com/webclipper/guide/ Perhaps you can post a screenshot of what you are seeing, which might help us walk you through it a bit better.
  11. Not a problem at all! Happy Clipping!
  12. That's just saying that you need to give the Clipper permission to access the website you have loaded so that it can clip it. Private is perhaps a bit of an odd term, but indeed it is information that you alone chose to display (which may well be private, such as your bank statement, or it might be the New York Times). This is a generic warning presented by Safari for any extension that needs to see what website you are currently viewing.
  13. Evernote has worked reliably for me in Notification centre, but a number of other widgets have been a little sketchy. I suspect this is a combination of issues in iOS and in the widget/applications themselves. Try removing the widget and re-adding it. Restarting your phone could help too. I suspect the reliability of these widgets will improve with a couple iOS updates and a few updates to the applications themselves.
  14. Ah, sorry for the slightly obtuse answer. It was late, dark, and I didn't have my glasses! Really the same set of questions applies whether it is for work or personal. What relationships are important to highlight, and what is the most effective way of highlighting them? (Tags, notebooks, titles, contents). I think Jefito's suggestions are worth thinking about too. One of the biggest tradeoffs is whether a tag or a notebook is ideal. I tend to always try and use a tag first, rather than a notebook. So for example, rather than having a "receipts" notebook, I have a "receipts" tag. Notes that contain a receipt go in either Work, Household, or Personal notebooks, and get the receipt tag. If I had a "receipts" notebook, then I'd have to somehow differentiate work/personal/household receipts. Then I'd have to duplicate any household receipts into a shared household notebook (or have household receipts in the household notebook with a "receipts" tag, thus meaning I have both a receipts tag and notebook, which is inefficient. Alternatively again, I could create an additional shared notebook called "household receipts", but then I have two household notebooks, when I could get away with one had I just used the tag! All of these alternatives are also nightmares for using Evernote's search function). What a waste of time. In this case, the tag wins out! Instruction manuals are not so clearcut. There's a strong case for having a notebook devoted solely to your manuals, especially if you don't need to share them with anyone. Instruction manuals are fairly discrete entities and might not have any other notes they are related to, they are related only to the actual object to which they correspond. However, if you are a notebook minimalist, then just tossing all your manuals into a general notebook and tagging them all with "manuals" or whatever, would be organizationally equivalent. The benefit to the tag, then, is that if you have a manual for a complicated entertainment unit that your partner can't ever remember how to turn on/off, you can put that into a shared "household" notebook rather than sharing the entire "manuals" notebook which might contain manuals for things your partner doesn't care about. Further, it can still be retrieved easily by tag:manual regardless of what notebook it is in. But, as you can see from the manual example, switching between schemes is pretty easy. If you have a "manuals" notebook, and want to switch instead to a tagging system, just select everything in "manuals", apply the "manuals" tag to the whole selection, move them to the general notebook (and any to a relevant shared notebook), and delete the empty manuals notebook. Going the other way, list all of the notes tagged "manuals", move them to a newly created "manuals" notebook, then delete the tag. So there's some flexibility if you want to change schemes.
  15. Almost any of the possibilities you mention could work depending on your preference and some specific details of your situation. You'll really have to feel it out, though premeditating and planning how to organize in advance, as you are doing, can save some headaches. A place to start might be here: The Benefit of Using Tags The main questions to think of are - what relationships between notes are essential? Client would be one. you'd likely want to retrieve all notes associated with a client fairly easily. Product information might also be important, so all notes with marketing information on Product X might need a tag, since that might need to be reviewed or brought up. However, if you sold Product X to Client A, then you need to ask yourself whether you need to include Product X tag on the note that has that sales info. Is that something you'll likely need to retrieve? Do you want every single invoice for Product X to show up? Also consider where tagging is needed, and where searching contents or titles might suffice. For example, if every sale of product X is tagged "sale", and the name Product X appears in the contents of the note, you could search tag:sale "product x" to retrieve every sale that involved product X. Or if you want to see if Client A has ever purchased product X because there's a recall or something, you could search tag:"client a" "product X' to search the contents of every note tagged "client a" that contains the text "product X". (You might prefer to give clients their own notebooks too, and this same thing could be accomplished had Client A's records been in their own notebook rather than marked with a tag). Begin with a task: "I need to look up all the support documentation for Product X, and pass that along to every client that has purchased Product X." What tags and other information would be best suited to performing this task most efficiently? You'll need to identify every client that has purchased Product X (through sales records), you'll need to find all the support documentation for Product X (instruction manuals, etc). Another example: "I want to find all of the pre-sales/potential clients with whom I discussed Product X, since there's been an update that might push them over the edge." As you can see there's no right or wrong way, so just play through a few tasks you think you might regularly perform. Think of a few contexts in which you will need to retrieve information and consider how tagging, titles, notebooks, and contents of notes can best serve those needs. Then go from there.
  16. Ah, yes, I was moving quickly and didn't realize which subforum I was in. D'oh.
  17. Just attempted to share a notebook publicly without issue. This feature still seems to be around. Here's my attempt to do so just a second ago: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABnVvugURN9NvK6gYr5znL5MzwG86OMVqWE
  18. I'm not clear what this means. What caveat would you want to see? That there is a chance you may lose some data sometime? This caveat would have to exist for EVERY application or service that exists. There is no such thing as 100% uptime, there's no such thing as bug-free software. Does Evernote need to say: "As with all series and products, there may be bugs that could potentially cause data loss without warning.". Should there be a similar caveat on your personal computer?: "Caution: The hard disk drive contained within this computer may fail spontaneously without warning causing instantaneous, permanent data loss". Every single hard drive will fail. This is an unavoidable truth and the loss is complete and permanent when it does inevitably occur. Despite this inevitability, I've not once seen such a warning. This is computing life. Things sometimes don't work and proper precautions need to be taken, and this is not generally something that requires immense tech savviness. Now, I'm not excusing Evernote for having bugs in their web interface that lead to data loss. Ideally that shouldn't ever happen (in reality it should happen as infrequently as possible). Evernote needs to work their butt off to eliminate these things, but there will always be the risk that they will happen despite these efforts. So, I'm not sure what kind of help such a caveat would be. And I'm not sure what relationship this has to your premium subscription... premium users are no more or less likely to lose data than free users. If you are unsatisfied with Premium, contact support, explain your issue and dissatisfaction, and requisition a refund for your unused premium time. I'm pleased to provide help to fellow users! I'm sorry that I am not able to help you get your data back!
  19. The desktop clients aren't an option for you? (e.g., you use linux, or a managed work computer)?
  20. In the context of the beta, I wouldn't trust anything. Just because it said it was saved, doesn't mean it actually was. Perhaps it was, but a bug prevented it from sticking and was deleted, or perhaps it was never saved, but displaying the notice that it was saved is the bug. We've only had access to the beta for a couple of days so really it is very difficult to troubleshoot. Saved somewhere else? Where else? When you are working in the web interface, you are working directly on Evernote's servers. A note is saved there, or it isn't saved at all. There's nowhere else (unlike if you use a desktop client). You could contact support, but they can't really sift through your database stored on their servers to look for one note you may have lost. Not only do evernote employees not have those privileges (indeed, if they could access users' notes, it would be dismaying!), but that would be a monumental chore. There seems to be a relatively widespread problem with new notes not getting saved in the beta, based on posts I've seen here, so I'm sure its a bug, and I'm sure it will be fixed. I'm sorry to hear it has happened in the past with the old version too. I've heard of others having the same problem. Not sure of the cause, whether its a quirk of Evernote, or a glitch in the users' browser, or what. In general, it seems like when using the web interface it is probably ideal to try and enter your initial note information (title, a line or two of body text) then verify that it has been saved by clicking on another note, and returning to the new note. Notes should be saved instantaneously in the web interface. At least this way, if there is a glitch, you've lost a largely empty note that will take no time of you to reproduce. In the meantime, I'd stay away from the beta web interface when working on mission critical stuff! I'd hate to see you lose more stuff unnecessarily!
  21. If it never got saved, it isn't likely recoverable. It is usually a very bad idea to use betas for mission critical or work related tasks. Betas should always be assumed to fail. For mission critical/production/work tasks, you'd be wise to use only stable releases. If you choose to use the beta, you need to accept there is a risk of data loss or corruption.
  22. What client are you using? Web? Windows? Mac? iOS? Android? Note history is a premium feature. If you are a premium member you should be able to select any note, press the note info button (a stylized "i" on the mac), and click on "note history" On Mac and windows, you can shift-click one note, then another, to select multiple adjacent notes, then right click and select "merge". You can select multiple non-adjacent notes with cmd(mac)/ctrl(win). On mobile clients, I don't think either one is possible.
  23. That said, what some people refer to as weird white space, others find refreshingly clean, even Tufte-esque (Edward Tufte). The design goal of removing distraction is vital for any product these days. Stretch goal might be to cultivate productive focus. EN is an information storing vault. Productivity in this context is to access a lot of information in a short time. A list of notes divided by huge pieces of nothing, the way the notes / notebook list is out of view unless clicked, and the opening single notes in a new window does not help prodictivity, it hinders it. I'm afraid what we are looking at in the web version is what is planned for the desktop versions, too. That would be a terrible thing to do to us. 1) I half agree. I like a bit of white space to keep things nice and easy to look at. However, the Beta is a bit overboard in that regard and it looks... sparse. 2) I think Libin explicitly stated that the entire purpose of this new web version was to differentiate it from the desktop versions. That is, as per Libin's keynote, their original goal for the web interface was to attempt to feature-match a desktop client. However, as he stated, this worked poorly. It was technically challenging or impossible to do that effectively, and it wasn't an effective user experience. The beta is a reflection of a new direction, a new way in which Evernote conceptualizes the web interface as a totally discrete client from the desktop clients. The web client will, as Libin suggested, highlight the very best of what can actually be done effectively on the web. It will offer, as I interpret Libin's statements, a profoundly different experience from the desktop clients. We can impute, then, based on the desire to make the web client different, that this is NOT the direction in which the desktop clients will go (because that would defeat the idea of them being different). The desktop clients will continue to be developed to take advantage of the desktop context, so likely designed towards doing the heavier lifting and whatnot that is just a bit cumbersome or impossible in the web. So, I don't buy the argument that Evernote's going to transplant the web interface or something similar to the desktop. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some design cues moving to the desktop clients for branding and coherence reasons. However I don't think the desktop clients will be simplified/streamlined/dumbed down in the same way the web will be. The main reason for me using Evernote Web is because the desktop client for Windows is buggy! So I am forced to use the web client for my daily Evernote work. I would be quite happy to use the desktop client solely only if it was bug-free. Unfortunately, Evernote does not have a very good track record of producing bug-free software. I've lost count the number of times I've had to send support requests to them reporting problematic glitches in the software. So the only thing keeping me going is the solid robust version of Evernote Web. And to be honest, I like the fact that it is the same setup as the the desktop clients. This means it is easier to learn and use should anyone need to use it when the desktop client is unavailable. If Evernote are truly going on this road of having a different layout on desktop clients and a totally different layout on the web. Then I can forsee many users becoming confused and this will require more learning time. Also many tips and tricks one uses in the desktop client will no longer be possible in the web version due to a different user interface. So to me this doesn't make sense to have different layouts. In my opinion (I maybe wrong), but I think Evernote might eventually abandon the desktop clients altogether and just focus on having a web version. The only problem with this would be the difficulty in backing up certain notebooks for private use or downloading notebooks/notes locally onto the PC. The other option, of course maybe would be to congruous all the software so that it works and behaves similarly. To be fair, I have a very hard time getting around the old web interface because it is SO different from the Mac interface. In order for me to effectively use the old interface without being confused, I would need to commit some time to learning its intricacies. So the need for users to spend some time learning one client or another isn't new as of the beta. I highly doubt Evernote will ditch the desktop clients. There is so little evidence to suggest that will ever happen, and there so much that can only effectively be done with the desktop clients. Their commitments to rewriting the desktop clients, things like "Context" which rely on client-side processing, and so on suggest that the desktop clients are in it for the long haul. If they were interested in phasing out the desktop clients, I don't think they'd be building out new features that wouldn't exist without them.
  24. This isn't so obvious to me and lately has not been the case with EN. They have a bad habit of introducing new versions with less function than prior versions. I think it is obvious that they will add more functionality since staff have stated that they will add more functionality. That being said, I don't think we'll see a return to the same level that the old interface had, but thats exactly the point. The web interface will NOT be a desktop clone, and will not do everything the desktop does, and may do things the desktop can't. But yes, obviously they will add more functionality because they have said they will. Whether that "more functionality" is satisfying to you and your needs doesn't detract from the validity of what Frank says. Yes, they have said they are adding back some functions such as reminders, but when the web version is out of beta (I should have made that point clearer above) I'm speculating it will likely have less overall function than the current web client. As long as the desktop clients don't follow suit then I'm personally unaffected. I use the web client very little, but there are others out there that primarily use the web client and they will likely see a reduction in function. If EN wants to have a light weight web client, that's fine and I can see the need for something simple and straight forward but they should consider keeping their existing full function web client for those customers that have been relying on it. Yes I think it is a given that it will not have all the functionality of the old web client or any desktop client, Evernote has been explicit about that. That being said it might have some features that are exclusive to the web client, though those may not be useful to those who have traditionally relied on the old client as a desktop replacement. While ideally users would indefinitely have the choice between web clients, I don't know whether Evernote would ever do that. That means maintaining TWO web clients which requires considerably more resources. This will definitely annoy all those linux users!
  25. This isn't so obvious to me and lately has not been the case with EN. They have a bad habit of introducing new versions with less function than prior versions. I think it is obvious that they will add more functionality since staff have stated that they will add more functionality. That being said, I don't think we'll see a return to the same level that the old interface had, but thats exactly the point. The web interface will NOT be a desktop clone, and will not do everything the desktop does, and may do things the desktop can't. But yes, obviously they will add more functionality because they have said they will. Whether that "more functionality" is satisfying to you and your needs doesn't detract from the validity of what Frank says.
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