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I'm sure running Netflix does cost more than running Evernote. But they also have way more users. It's a sliding scale that means the cost per user can easily come out to be the same. If Evernote had the volume of users that Netflix does, it's possible Premium'd be something like 99¢ or some other cheaper price. I'm starting to lose count the number of times people threaten to leave over a wide variety of changes Evernote has implemented. New UI - I'm leaving! Can't email to Evernote on a free account anymore - I'm leaving! PDF search in Premium only - I'm leaving! And yet, Evernote keeps chugging along. I anticipate the people who leave are oftentimes those who would never give a penny to Evernote, anyway. Heck, I have family members with a staunch "I will never pay for an app" policy. That makes them worthless users, especially if the service (like Evernote) refuses to sell their user data, so they really can't complain when a service won't cater to them anymore. Whether the services Evernote offers is usable for each person at the price they set is up to each person, and that's totally fine. But the people saying Evernote doesn't offer enough at the price set are, IMHO, just wrong. The app has more than enough features to justify the cost. It doesn't mean you have to see the use for them all and pay for them, however. I've got no problem with the people who don't use it enough to pay that much downgrading. But no one can really say Evernote doesn't offer enough features for that price. I just don't see how that's the case at all.

I didn't make an analogy, so it's not a false one. I made a simple comparison between two similarly-priced products. I never said everyone finds enjoyment from Netflix, either, so I'm not sure why you're suggesting I said that. I'm also not blinded by assumptions, unlike the one you're making about me I've used OneNote, Nimbus Note, SimpleNote, Springpad (was even featured on their blog), Centrallo, and pretty much every notetaking app on the market. Nothing beats Evernote in terms of pure feature set. OneNote's tagging doesn't work on Mac/iOS, only Windows, and even then, it doesn't tag the whole note, just that one part. The tabs are not for everyone. The web clipper stinks. If I haven't opened the app in a while, I have to sign in again. To the app. Not the website. The downloaded to my computer app. And even then, I just clipped something on my Windows 10 partition (I don't have the space to install Evernote because I miscalculated how much room I'd need, but that's beside the point) to OneNote and I've yet to see it show up elsewhere in my OneNote account. I can't get it to sync. It's actually a living nightmare. Which is all beside the point. Evernote offers a vast feature set that offers a LOT of service, all for the rough price (cheaper, actually) of a TV/movie streaming service. My point wasn't that it's more valuable - which I figure I was pretty clear on but I'll clarify anyway - but rather to address those complaining that Evernote doesn't offer enough for that price. It absolutely does. It's just whether or not people need those features. And I do.

I compared it because the price is similar and it's a subscription so many people have and don't think twice about. Ask someone to give up Netflix and you get a blank stare, as if they weren't aware that was even possible. Netflix is a given for so many people, and all it gives is movies/TV shows. Evernote gives offline access to notes of all kinds, a one-of-a-kind web clipper that I'd easily pay $10/mo for, intense customization of storage method/hierarchy, excellent sharing capabilities, and so many more things. For less than a TV/movie streaming app. It puts the pricing into perspective.

I'm staying. It seems like the pricing change thread is full of freeloaders free users complaining they can no longer get a service for free. Seriously - even if you buy Premium and pay monthly (the most expensive way to pay), it's cheaper than Netflix. I can't believe the people who don't see the value in all that Evernote has to offer as being at least EQUAL to the value Netflix brings. Heck, buying one $2 coffee/week is more expensive than Evernote. It's beyond ridiculous, those complaining about the prices. Evernote was underpriced before, IMHO, and is now approaching what it should be charging.

Seconded.

As of this moment I have 7047 notes. No sluggishness in Windows, but I do lag a bit on Mac. I attribute it more to the auto-syncing feature than note volume. Most of my trouble is when I edit a note and then try to change its notebook... everything drags while it tries to instantly sync my changes.

No, I don't. I happened to quote his/her post and type my reply, then get pulled away from my computer, and when I came back I forgot to remove that snippet before publishing. My apologies. I did agree with his/her overall statement, though, because these forums ARE filled with nitpicking over minute concerns that, when taken in scope of the larger picture, are pretty insignificant, and distract from more productive discussions. Oftentimes, little teeny problems are blown up into huge, SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, when really, IMO, that time could be spent being productive instead - like the link I posted suggests. It really resonated with me, and made me take some steps back and look at the bigger picture and my bigger goals. Why was I really trying 34897 tools in search of the "perfect one?" What did I really want out of my tools? I do think in general, these forums could use less name-calling and judgments upon others as well. There's a whole lot of embittered commentary in the forums, both about Evernote and other forum users, and while sometimes "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all" doesn't account for constructive criticism, "If you don't have something polite to say, don't say anything at all" certainly does. Not that I'm targeting any one person with this — just that I empathize with lykoz's general assessment (and recognize the irony of it fitting the description I just made). Some of it, I'm sure, is language/typing barrier, but I just don't see the point in calling people out publicly, calling their posts "nonsense," or in general, the entire Mac Design Feedback thread (which was the most frustrating and disappointing thread on any forum I've ever read). Surely there are more productive and polite ways for people to get their points across. Maybe I'm alone in thinking that, too. But I'm pretty proud that I've never had to ignore or block users while on here (though admittedly, I haven't been on these forums for very long). Anyway, back on topic...

I totally agree! I enjoy reading this thread because it's fascinating, but I've long since lost my drive to find "the perfect tool for the job." Here's another great article on the subject: Searching for The "Perfect Tool" Is a Waste of Time | 99U

Hi there, I think the only time I've mentioned the sync problem with EN is here - https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/73373-i-see-in-the-news-today-nov-4-2014-evernote-premium-price-may-change/page-4#entry351329 I could recover my lost work in the history of the note if I originally composed in the web version. If I composed in the desktop version, the losses were not recoverable. Some of the broken notes would end up in conflicting changes, but the lost data wasn't there. The troubleshooting process was primarily a matter of working on the web version vs desktop, reinstalling desktop version, and sending logs and app/browser versions over to EN support. They did what they could but it wasn't solved. It may work fine now, but I don't compose in EN anymore, so I don't know. I had one sync problem with ON from one device. I forget the details but I was able to solve it by following the steps in a KB article. I didn't need to get support involved. One advantage EN has over ON in my use case is that there are more integration options with IFTTT and Zapier. Making backups of my blog posts, youtube watch later videos, etc., just seems to work better with EN. I find it endlessly fascinating that people can have such different experiences with the exact same software. It really makes it tricky to find the ideal solution, because one person's sync horror story could scare another away to a product that they might in turn have a sync horror story, which they might have avoided going with the original software presented. It makes my brain hurt! I want to love OneNote sooo badly, but I've struggled with its slow sync, lack of feature support across platforms, and other glitches. For example, if you rename a Notebook in the Windows app, sometimes it does not rename it in OneDrive. I also am asked to sign in every time I open the Windows app if I want it to sync. Tags do not work on any platform except Windows. The web clipper deserves its own horror flick. Which SUCKS, because OneNote has SO much going for it and its note editor is by far the best in the game. I would marry the Windows software if I could! But my personal computer is a Mac and OneNote is very blah. As long as I have very little inside it and don't need multiple sorting/viewing options, it can work. I currently use it to brainstorm and plan design freelance projects. It's ideal for creating moodboards and other visual canvases. Outside of that... I'm struggling.

Reminds me of a recent XKCD comic: But in all seriousness, I think this is a really important statement to make. When I stopped focusing on the plethora of minutae problems I perceived in Evernote, and just dealt with it as it is... I found that by focusing on the problem, I made it a problem. It wasn't really one outside of my quest for perfection. I use what Evernote has to offer, and if it stinks at something (like PRINTING, AHEM, AHEM) I use something else. My life's gotten a whole lot less stressful when I stop staring at these teeny perceived flaws and look at the grander picture of how helpful Evernote has been in my life. I've actually immensely simplified how I use Evernote (like, dumped over 200 tags) and it's become even more useful. The quest for perfection was making Evernote useless for me -- setting it free made it once again my most necessary app on my devices. Plus, now I use a few of Evernote's very core features, as opposed to every single option it has to offer, so I'm incredibly efficient at finding and using my stuff. You know how bringing a book too close to your face makes it impossible to read, but pulling it away a bit brings it into crisp focus? It's like that.

Hmm, this article is a bit questionable. It's got lots of statements with nothing to back them up. "First of all, all of your docs (or notes in this case) are saved in Google Drive, which has the best search capabilities around, hands-down. That makes it easy to find the note your looking for in a flash. Evernote's search is good, but not as good as Google's." Evidence? Example? Anything? Spellcheck? Bueller? "Finally, using Docs as your note-taking tool of choice prevents that oh-so-annoying scenario when you're trying to remember exactly where you saved a key file. There's no more "Oh, I put that note in Evernote, but the related Word document is in Dropbox, and the image is in OneDrive," et cetera. If you go all-in with Drive, it's all there." Are they unaware you can do this in Evernote, too? Do they even know you can attach files to Evernote? It doesn't sound like they do... And short of collaboration and the Research tool, every single thing they list can be done in Evernote just as easily (if not more so). It's great to mention that one can do these things with Google Drive, of course, but the premise of the article is why you should use Google Drive over other tools like Evernote, and they have very, very little evidence for this. They should have written the article with the spin of Google Drive being a good way to take notes. They should never have brought Evernote up. I love OneNote and Microsoft is doing a lot to make it better on Macs, but the one thing that just KILLS me with every alternative application is the web clipper. Drive and OneNote's clippers are just awful.

IFTTT is super great, I highly recommend it And you could always use Presentation mode for reading - it works especially well on mobile because you can go straight from one note to the next, and tapping inside it doesn't trigger editing the note. You have to leave Presentation mode to add tags, move to a Read notebook, etc. though.

I use Instapaper as well, and what I do is have Instapaper send all ♥ articles to Evernote in their entirety, and then I have an IFTTT recipe set up that appends all Instapaper Highlights to the same note. So while highlights aren't technically highlighted, they are in a running list at the bottom of my article. It's not quite the same but it at least gets the article and its highlights into the same note. I don't know of any way to actually have Evernote visually highlight inside the article, unfortunately, because the Instapaper and Evernote highlight functions are fundamentally different beasts.