Etonreve

I just opened Firefox, went to the New York Times site and was able to clip an article.

I have a Dell laptop with Windows 10 installed.

On 10/10/2018 at 3:16 PM, rightjb said:

I'm a little shocked @EverNote hasn't responded to this after WEEKS passing....

How long have you been a member of this forum? ?

At least recently the number of notebooks was increased, a feature requested for many years. I'm going to bask in the enjoyment of that for the next several months.

On 10/12/2018 at 4:21 PM, rightjb said:

Please check my new update on this below.  Hopefully it will work for you.

Thank you for figuring this out and telling us. Evernote Windows 10 is still not working on my desktop but I will try the browser version sometime, although it seems a little complicated. To be honest, I'm wary of adopting too many new Evernote features. In the past, I used Evernote Food, which created templates to record memorable meals and then it no longer existed. I tried to use Skitch (a graphics program that was never properly explained and I never understood how to integrate it into my other notes) and then that was no longer supported. Best to stick to the meat-and-potatoes of the web clipper.

Evernote has a history of releasing features that don't work or aren't fully or well explained. I had the same problem with a set of templates created for Getting Things Done. The EN blog made a big deal out of them and then I couldn't open them. The Marketing and PR departments too often are out of sync with the departments directly responsible for the functioning of the product.

18 hours ago, davidsdesk said:

I'm a long-time premium Evernote customer and am really trying to like this service. Until recently I have simply used Evernote as a "web clipper," bookmarking sites so that I could access them across my devices. Templates (meeting notes, etc.) look like a useful tool but, regardless of how many I "Save to Evernote," none are ever ever available when I create a new note--there's no "Template" icon. Other posters suggest that I should upgrade my Evernote software, but I'm using Evernote through the browser. Are templates only available if I download (one more annoying) app? Why do I not see them when logged in through my browser??

I just looked in my web version of Evernote. I use Google Chrome. I didn't see the template either.

On 9/30/2018 at 1:22 PM, SvenSND said:

Hi everyone, I've got some questions about the "Task management system" in Evernote.

I use Evernote as my main and only system to take note, but also as my task list.

• Non actionnable notes are tagged with the ".cabinet" tag and placed into the proper folders
• Actionnable notes have 4 types of tag!
  • What project: guitar, word, professional...
  • What: what action is needed (call, email, errand...)
  • Where: where can the action be taken (anywhere, work, home, on any computer...)
  • When (cf. below)

The When part is the part I'm questioning myself is the time management. For now I use a tag system as below (0 is for all the items I need to proceed today, 1 for tomorrow, and 2 for the day after. 3 lists all the items I need to proceed during this week with no particular order)

 

The downside of this system is that I need to update it every evening:

• Put the "1" into "0" and "2" into "1"
• See if all the actions I couldn't proceed in "0" should remain in "0" or be placed into another tag

 

It takes almost 10-15 minutes everyday. I'm wondering if another system could be better? Do you have any idea? What do you personally use? 

I would consider a system like KanbanFlow or Remember the Milk. I once briefly tried to use Evernote for Getting Things Done, which is quite similar to what you described. It was unwieldy.

19 hours ago, noteaddict48 said:

Slogans are all very well and I have certainly had great respect for Apple, especially when under the leadership of Steve Jobs.

 

 

I've used Macs and Windows and have not found Macs to be better, in fact, Macs my family have owned have completed broken down; that never happened to me with a PC. If I did a lot of graphics work I would consider a Mac because the software seems to be better.

On 9/25/2018 at 3:46 PM, chirmer said:

Commenting in a forum to essentially complain with no intention of finding an actual solution, I would argue, wastes more time. I, in good faith, was trying to understand your use case to see if a solution could be found. If you just want to complain that Evernote doesn't have enough notebooks for your liking, then use the search feature, find an already existing request, and voice your complaint there. Or hop into the thread @DTLow linked. 

To quote Annie Get Your Gun, anything notebooks can do, tags can do better. You can drag notes onto tags, just like notebooks. Except that you can have notes with more than one tag, which is a limitation of notebooks. You can nest tags deeper than you can notebooks. The only things you can't do via tag is save for offline or share. But it's easy enough to create notebooks for those use cases and then store everything else outside of that. You can literally replicate your notebook structure as tags and it will barely impact your workflow. Many have done so, and discussed this in these very forums.

What is your reasoning for liking notebooks over tags? Since they are so similar in most regards (except that tags have more abilities), I'm curious why you're so gung-ho. Is it the verbage? The icon? Do you share a lot? Save a lot for offline? I'm trying to understand your use case and trying to help. Because I'm not holding my breath that Evernote will add more notebooks. Maybe they will. But until they do, we're happy to help you find a solution. We're not happy to be your Evernote punching bag, however.

I've explained why posts like yours are not helpful. Insisting on your right to keep engaging people in the same old arguments in the guise of help is passive-aggressive.

I myself have explained at least 15 times why I prefer notebooks to tags. Others have weighed in. I'm not going to spend my day repeatedly justifying my thought process to you or other members.

"Punching bag"? You're the aggrieved party? Lovely. 

7 hours ago, Dan Barkley said:

This was the problem. When I upgraded to the latest version, the templates show up. I didn't know that there was a later version available. It didn't show up in the App Store. Thanks for the help.

Evernote Windows Desktop is still not working on my computer. I can't access the templates through the web version, which is the version of EN I've been using almost exclusively for the past five years.

5 hours ago, Tpro75 said:

Having the same issues.  Have upgraded to 7.5 on Mac but the template option does not appear nor does it appear in the Web version when I run there (neither on Chrome nor Safari).

I'm using Google Chrome on a Windows computer. It's not working.

On 9/26/2018 at 2:08 AM, SVHOODS said:

@Etonreve have you upgraded your desktop app to 7.5 on the Mac?  Have you attempted to sign in online ?

I only use Windows with Chrome and have the latest version. I am using the web version because I have not been able to get the Desktop version to work on my new laptop ever since I've had it. I am using the latest full version, not the beta version.

As noted, I watched the video and followed its steps.  When I create a note there is no option to select a template, which I saved.

On 8/16/2018 at 2:20 PM, chirmer said:

 

 

Unfortunately, there are no "angry" and "dubious" reaction emoticons provided in the forum software.

I received an email from Evernote about new templates. The old templates, discussed on the blog a while back, never worked. I watched the video and followed the instructions. The option to create a template is not appearing when I create a new note.

I don't care that much about this feature and I'm still having problems with Evernote Desktop, which doesn't open, but here's one more disappointment.

UPDATE, 3 Oct. 2018

I opened Evernote on my Android phone and the template option was offered. I continue to see nothing with the Chrome version of Evernote and I still can't open Evernote Desktop on my  Windows 10 laptop.

On 9/23/2018 at 12:31 AM, TK0047 said:

I hate to say this and this is also going against what you are telling us not to do but I must say it:

This is similar to: 

When Apple introduced the soft keys in a phone (introduction of iPhone), people saying, quit giving us soft | electronic keys, give us bigger keys so we can type with hard keys with our Blackberrys.

My point is, (which I posted before) folder structure (which I say is the same as notebooks) is the old style of thinking. After MS DOS, with the Windows introduction, we all got programmed to have a folder structure. And it is a really hard habit to break, everybody can visualize it easily and get accustomed to it quickly as it mimics our psychical world.  

It is coming from our physical world and the way we see things. But electronics world does not really need to mirror the physical world. A file does not need to be in one space unlike how we file a physical paper. 

A file, document, a note can belong to many categories.Thus, the need for tags. Due to the folder | notebook structure, a note can be in only one notebook. So it is actually against the natural way our brains file things. We pull information based on categories which resemble tags.

I do understand the people who wants more notebooks and want to stick with notebooks, for the "tag people", that is like requesting faster horses, because you want your horse carriage to go faster. Other see it; dude there is a way better way of doing this, if you would only give it a try....

This is a user forum. The question is, are you interested in communicating with other users or insulting them? The notebook model is viable. If it weren't, you wouldn't be able to create 10K notebooks in Evernote Business. Adding more notebooks does not affect you. You know nothing about the "natural way" in which my brain works or that of other users who want more notebooks and for you to suggest you do is highly presumptuous.

Your tone reminds me of all the sanctimonious people in the comment sections of my local newspaper who scolded readers like me who spoke of the need for more charging outlets on public transportation. Scold scold scold and then the new ferries had three times the number of charging stations because the people in charge understood that passengers needed to charge their phones and laptops. If you don't carry a phone or a laptop or don't care if the battery runs down, fine. But don't interfere with the rights of others.

I don't have the time to have the same argument again and again when I've explicitly asked people to stop. It's a waste of time and some of the arguments are clearly in bad faith.

I am putting you on "Ignore."

On 9/21/2018 at 4:27 PM, DTLow said:

You've made that quite clear, but what's the reason for this?
Notes have the two fields for organization, Tags and Notebooks.  Why do you prefer one over the other with such emotion?

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In your zeal to lecture me, you apparently didn't read the previous post. It was in response to yet another person who suggested tags. Tag People:  Stop suggesting tags to people who have made it clear they want more notebooks. You're wasting everyone's time.

On 9/20/2018 at 8:41 AM, chirmer said:

How do you organize your content? Is it possible to create tags for some of the notebooks, leaving notebooks themselves for projects only?

I'm a tagger so I have a hard time working with any workflow that heavily uses notebooks as I always want to be able to find a note by at least two methods (project and note type), so I have to use tags by default. But maybe a certain type of notebook could be converted to tags, and notebooks can be saved for current projects only?

I have to create tags for projects that ordinarily would have received notebooks. I DO NOT LIKE TAGS as my primary unit of organization. I'm not interested in decommissioning my existing notebooks. This is a simple problem with a simple answer that is within Evernote's ability to solve and people have been asking for it for years.

4 hours ago, s2sailor said:

[M]aybe 250 is their somewhat arbitrary line in the sand for personal accounts.

 

If so, it's too low.

On 9/8/2018 at 5:29 AM, chronistin said:

I never understood the "war" between notebooks and tags. There are many different ways to use both of them, and every way that works for you is a good way. There is no "right" or "wrong" way, if someone tells you otherwise, they're just taking themselves way too seriously. ?

I especially don't understand it because the people who want more notebooks aren't taking anything away from the people who prefer tags. Evernote Business permits thousands of notebooks so it's not like it's impossible to add the feature to the personal versions Evernote.

If you're like me and have run out of notebooks, not being able to create new ones is a PITA.

I have a new project and because I have used all my notebooks I have to assign my notes to a notebook that is too broad and add tags.

I HATE IT.

8 hours ago, jbenson2 said:

I resolved one of Stacey's main concerns several years ago with a simple naming convention.

One of her first examples is how easy it is to create four tags inadvertently. Receipt, Receipts, receipt, receipts

This does not happen to me because I use a simple rule. Tags are always lower case and singular.

 

It's a little late for that for me. It is extremely easy to create duplicate tags.

On 4/29/2018 at 3:47 PM, tavor said:

That remains to be seen. The only people in this thread so far are taggers! 

And here I was, in "shields up, prepare for incoming!" mode.

Maybe we've beaten the notebook diehards into submission over the years. Or maybe they are gathering their forces . . . 

Your interest is appreciated. As I've pointed out many times, I don't always have the time or an interest in adding tags and sometimes depending on the platform there is no option to select tags. In addition, in my case, tags sometimes make me overly anal -- I'll add three or four or more -- while adding the note to a relevant notebook is much simpler for me.

On 8/14/2018 at 9:26 PM, Analyst444 said:

 

 

I also observe that most (maybe all) of the people commenting in this thread are very experienced and very sophisticated Evernote users. Those types of customers are harder to satisfy in any business, particularly when the supplier can't charge them a higher price. - - - Suppliers of products must ensure that their product capabilities match the needs of the masses real well - - - and, if I give Evernote management the benefit of the doubt, they decided now was the time to appeal to the masses by enhancing the brand.

 

I hope Evernote isn't contemplating another hike. I don't know how many paying masses Evernote will attract now it has eliminated the Plus tier. At least in the U.S., the remaining Premium level is $70 a year, that's not chump change for many people who otherwise might be interested in it.

3 hours ago, Ellsinore said:

I'm pretty much using Zotero for everything now.  I spent a weekend figuring things out and digging around for specific solutions.  But I spent many more hours trying to adjust my workflow to Evernote's "upgrades," so I'm ahead of the game since now I'm getting stuff done.  

There's no "import" for notes from Evernote, but that always created a mess when I tried it anyway.  Now, Evernote is a container for my last many years of work -- as I migrate it to Zotero.  And I don't need a premium account for that.  Once my Evernote note count is down to zero, it's gone.  

Interestingly, I hardly use Zotero for its intended purpose as a citation manager, since it's not really set up for genealogy cites.  But at some point I will probably tweak the CSL to handle that, too.  ?

I learned about Zotero while taking an Art History class. There were two major assignments for which I had to collect numerous images and Evernote was very good for that. I had a notebook for the main class and one for each assignment. I used tags when convenient, but mainly I assigned the materials to the relevant notebook.

Another reason that I'm not crazy about tags is that they target my compulsiveness. If I'm tagging, one or two tags often won't do, I'll use four or five. With a notebook, I just put it there and I can move on. It isn't very hard to find things in a notebook with a word search.

On 8/15/2018 at 2:12 AM, apb123 said:

I do like the new icon..but gosh you really have been overthinking it a bit..and probably overspending. How much did it cost to employ an external agency? All that stuff about the slope representing momentum and the spiral in the trunk representing progress is, in fact, utter rubbish. Take a step back and think about it..it is overindulgent nonsense, isn't it?

What you need to focus on is usability. Address the formatting inconsistencies, latency, security, implement markdown, bring spaces to individual users, implement a more robust task/reminders option..

 

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I enjoyed reading about the decision-making process in regard to revising the icon. I know that there's always more going on in the design of logos and digital environments than I grasp as a layperson. But like you, it would be nice if the nuts-and-bolts were taken care of first. Evernote's marketing can be quite polished but it's often tone deaf. I didn't think the interface was screaming for an update. I've always rather liked it.

Actually, Evernote helped me a great deal last week. I needed to locate an old record that fortunately, I'd scanned in. But I'm still having problems using it with my Windows laptop. I always thought the problem was because my computer was old but this one is brand new and about a month after installing Evernote, it still has not synced all my notes.

I like the "Control + Q" function to quickly search notes and tags.

14 minutes ago, Ellsinore said:

 I'll continue my migration to Zotero.  

 

 

I like Zotero, but my use has been limited to research and writing that required detailed citations.

Incidentally, now that I've established that I do actually read Evernote's marketing materials, it is ridiculous for anyone to claim, as has been done in this forum, that it is not intended as a full-on productivity tool. So many of the blog posts discuss how the use of Evernote will streamline one's work process. It is not meant to be merely a storage device. Which is why if some people like notebooks because that's their preferred work method it should be heeded.