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  1. Howdy everyone, Following up my Is this a farewell ? post a couple months ago, I thought it would be nice to share why after wasting a gigantic amount of time, I am back in EN. Applications I tried to migrate too OneNote Synology Note Station Bear Obsidian Joplin Drafts Notion Also, I would like to outline my use case, so readers understand what I am looking for in the note taking app [Personal] Bills & Bills’ payments [Personal] Family’s documents [Business] Meeting notes [Business] Clients’ information and notes [Business & Personal] Knowledge base [Business & Personal] Saving web articles OneNote I was very close at transitioning to OneNote, but I eventually decided not to because of the difficulty finding staff and the crippled tagging system. What I liked: The iPad app, including its free hand annotating capabilities OneNote notebook databases are stored files Notebook > Sections > Pages give an extra depth of organization Ability to write anything wherever on screen, endless canvas Integrating options What I didn’t like: Migration tool didn’t work Could not find my content OCR not supported in attachments Crippled tagging Microsoft ribbon Sharing only available with a Microsoft account Synology Note Station Really awesome functionalities, being a proper Evernote copycat. It also has a tasks feature, that EN just introduced ! Despite not ending up in it, I am keeping it as a local backup of EN, sadly this includes manually exporting and importing notebooks. What I liked: Self-hosting The ability to create parent/children tags Part of the Synology ecosystem, meaning all my backup strategies apply to my notes too All functionalities I need What I didn’t like Limited shortcuts, very hard to discover Attachments were not inline, but hidden in a popover Tasks could not be viewed in a summary, but again hidden in a popover iPadOS app doesn’t work, it is crashing The app has a lot of annoying glitches 0 integration options Bear What an awesome app. Beautiful, amazing organization -only by tagging- system, full markdown support, amazing exports. Still keeping it as a markdown composer, but not as a note app. What I liked The UI Tagging Archiving Full markdown support Export to html What I didn’t like Deployment; The app is using a sqlite database syncing to iCloud Just a markdown editor after all No OCR to attachments Obsidian, Joplin, Drafts & Notion Won’t make the comparison, because I didn’t use the apps a lot. Mainly, I didn’t like the UI. I am keeping that Drafts app though, because it offers unlimited (no joking) integrating capabilities Why I came back While testing the other options, EN fixed its abysmal performance to a point that it is -almost- functional and introduced the Tasks feature, offering a functionality I need. The most important reason why I came back though is experiencing the hard way that keeping a lot of productivity apps is the biggest productivity killer. EN is far from great, but it is a one app fits most for me. Keeping 1 app ended up being my most important criterion, so came back to EN. Why I am frustrated, again Cannot create 2 filtered notes snippets in dashboard, because I am not paying the highest tier !! Cannot add 2 calendars, because I am not paying the highest tier !! iPad app is still crippled, including a frustrating issue where while being in a client meeting, EN locks my editing capabilities while writing in a note !!!! Only Google support for calendars and documents Tasks is great, how about focusing in other functionalities now that aren’t That’s it, from my experience transitioning is a painful and time consuming process and I strongly recommend analyzing the transition app a lot before moving forward. Most important thing to avoid is keeping multiple productivity apps, ending up in a situation where you don’t know what to use for what, searching where you saved what and struggling to find a way to integrate where most note taking apps are still crippled at that section. It’s sad for EN, because it was the most integrated app a decade ago. Happy note taking !
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  2. Just want to clear this that EN TECH support figured it out got me fixed and stated the bug was fixed in the next release. Things have been pretty smooth since.
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  3. Ok...after letting it load for about 2 minutes (!) it finally opened. Very bad user experience.
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  4. This is getting beyond frustrating. At random times, EN just starts duplicating "alternate versions", even as I'm still writing on the original. I saw this problem several months ago and now it's back again. Any chance EN can get core functionality working instead of bells & whistles?
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  5. Welcome back! Been there - got that T-shirt: I've had many (many!) experiences where I moved from one app to another because of some temporary perceived benefit - only to find that my original provider had continued to plod onward and had either fixed the issues that annoyed me or introduced the feature that seduced me away in the meantime. We've been going through a bit of a patchy time (vague pun intended...) in the Evernote experience, but it makes most sense to stick with it until you absolutely have no option but to change. Thanks for the observations on the options - hope that will help others
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  6. Hello everyone, I decided to spare the time to write this disappointment post. Let me note right here that the disappointments you will read in this post is just a small -but most recent- fraction of my 10 years awesome user experience with EN. I have been using Evernote for the past 10 years, maybe half of which are premium. Documents, thoughts, tutorials, web archives, book suggestions, recipes, code, everything I care about is on Evernote and I am still using and love Evernote Moleskine notebooks. Early this year and thanks to COVID (spare) time, I took the time to transition all my data from the cloud to my Synology NAS, firstly because I ended up paying >500$/year (excluding business) to cloud subscriptions but most importantly because I wanted to own my personal data and not pay rent for it. After a streak of subcription cancelling, I cancelled almost all -I am still left with Evernote and iCloud-. I will be cancelling iCloud too when I 've built the Photo workflow I want to. And.. last one standing: Evernote. After giving it a thought and despite the fact that Synology and OneNote both offer a seamless way to migrate notes from Evernote, I said "no". I will be keeping my Evernote subscription, despite the fact that my subscription cost almost doubled in my paid plan years. Why ? Because I got high value from Evernote and it was acceptable to have my data on the cloud but get instantaneous search, famous Evernote OCR etc. And then... v10 came along. Being a developer myself, I don't get judgemental on product changes. When my clients are going back and forth with features they themselves requested, how easy would it be to offer features that 225M users will love or at least find acceptable ? However, performance/productivity aspects are must-haves and there is no point keeping a productivity app that kills your productivity, and that brought me to: shall I cut the last man standing ? Before doing that, I thought let's share some of those reasons, maybe someone will pay attention: New version Performance/Productivity/Reduced Functionality issues. The new app is by far the worst transition I had in my 10 years using EN. It feels (and probably is) a rubbish web hybrid that builds to macOS app too. Don't get me wrong, the UI is great/clean, note composing tools are better than ever, but guys/ladies, creating a note, moving batch/1 note to another notebook are the essentials. Who cares about functionality #3475 when you don't deliver functionalities #1 and #2. Here are 6 reasons why it sucks + 1 inconvenience: When dragging document to Evernote icon, user needs to click on a notebook, wait up to 10 seconds so the import occurs When moving a note to another notebook, it may take up to 30 seconds to be able to select the desired notebook. There is a lock icon and notebooks are greyed out for up to 30 seconds ffs. See screenshot here. When in need to do a batch action for a lot of notes, maximum number of notes is 50 ! (Seriously, is this a joke ?). That's also why I believe the new version is a web hybrid built. Launching the new app in every client (macOS, iOS, web) takes up to 1 minute, when data is not in cache Both macOS, iOS apps "hung". They are stuck and either need up to 30 seconds to revive or they need to be quit. Truth be told, newest updates have limited this issue to a minimum, but yet existing occasions. Linking notes inside the app ! That functionality existed, can't say I was really happy, but at least it worked. Now if you link one note to another, it creates a link that only launches on web ! When searching, ⌘ A selects all notes (all=50 as explained in 1.3) instead of search text Cost commitment. That's why I cancelled Dropbox, they took me from 69 to 129 in 1 year. If not mistaken, I believe Evernote went from 39 to 59, which I find somewhat acceptable considering I am literally paying to accommodate the free user tier. The Moleskine partnership is really cool I have to say and I 'd love to see an update on that Palaeolithic API. EN's API is literally last decade. I attempted to use EN API, but the process is only intended for external vendors that need to integrate a product to EN. The documentation is so outdated and non-existing, that really makes me wonder how safe my data is on EN. Documentation does not include the plain simple cURL commands. Innovation Stopped. It seems like there is no innovation happening, especially after Phil took off. I get it, there is no way competing to notes.app when Apple is really investing in that, but I expect to see some new features in my note-taking app of choice. There is limited app updating (Scannable, Skitch, Penultimate) going on. Features and business strategies I would like to see in the future Performance/Productivity/Reduced functionality -> See issues above. After having composed this post, I tend to realise that all those issues might be related to my assumption that EN now uses a web hybrid. If my assumption is correct, we need native apps. Batch actions -> See 1.3. Why on earth would a functionality of that importance be removed ? I know, hybrid app, right ? Stable Pricing -> Either keep it same and offer more or reduce it and keep it as is. At the moment we are paying more and probably even more in the future for same functionality with performance decrease ! Where does this elevation stop ? Maybe reduce functionality for free users and offer paid ones the value/innovation their cost deserves ? Tagging AI -> Tag suggestions based on user use. For example, every month I import in EN a tax document and payment. How hard would that be to identify pdf pattern and recognise that there are 1000 similar notes with the same tags. Breath-taking iPad app -> Penultimate was great back when it was introduced, but nowadays seem somewhat outdated. iPadOS has brought numerous features on note-taking and there are apps on the App Store that do use those innovations. We need the Evernote iPad app to be as good as it deserves to be. Automations -> Not getting up to date with the environment has its cost: the environment will not update too. Automating note imports in EN should be part of the EN app, just like the EN email. I am not talking about Zapier stuff, but plain-simple automations. At least create a AppleScript dictionary we can use Tasks Management -> We got reminders that -tough truth- never reached an acceptable state of productive use. I literally remember 3 years ago, I needed to manually go to notes 1-1 and clear reminders to remove the clutter. Alright, that's 2 free hours from me to you @EverNote, a price I am happy to pay considering the productivity gain I had all those years. So, are you going to keep me productive or is this a farewell ? Best regards, Askaridis Stathis
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  7. Moving this to Not a farewell after all
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  8. Thanks for sharing, with a lot of well observed details that make or break workflows. I want to point out that thought: Before moving in, always check if moving out is an option. Many alternatives look less great after checking and trying their export feature !
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  9. Just moved me virtually to San Jose, and logged in on the web. Still 10.22. If they do a staged rollout, it is probably linked to the account, not the IP.
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  10. Think @gazumped mentioned the problem with the Windows installer. You installed 10.23, and many files all of a sudden had EN set as their standard app. A Word or Excel file suddenly showed the EN icon.
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  11. it's difficult to cut out all permission bundling. there is a certain balance to be had between broad permissions, fine-grained permissions or maybe even introducing a domain-specific language to manage permissions. OS developers don't want to add too many permissions because that just slows development and testing down. Customers don't want permissions to be fine-grained until they suddenly do. App developers don't want permissions to ever change because that means existing working software may break. in the classical windows and old mac desktop world every app could do everything with every other app and its data. Unix etc always had the concepts of users and groups and every file has individual permissions, but access to services had to be governed individually by each running service. Linux has had SELinux for 10 years now. This controls who can use what service (i imagine other Unixen and maybe even Windows has something similar), but configuration is a pain. permission lists tend to grow over time. for example, the current list of android permissions can be found here: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission. Some probably mean very little to the average person (ACCESS_BLOBS_ACROSS_USERS anyone?)
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  12. If EN is not syncing I have made the same experience as you: It syncs up to the server, web client looks good, but it does not downsync to other devices. I have not encountered this any more since summer, however. There was some improvement mentioned in release notes about this syncing problem. My advise here is simple: Ask support to take a look. https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
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  13. @Nygaard EN rolls out a completely recoded app. Now everybody has his pet functions, and cries „They ignore me“ when it does not show up. They probably ignore nobody - they follow the agile software development concept. They released a core app initially, and now add feature by feature with every release. Typically what is today in its design phase will be coded next, then follows QA and then release preparations (which include adaptation of help documents, tutorials etc.). So probably with 10.23 released they have internally already everything up to 10.30 defined and in the making. So just enjoy every release as a miracle package, I am sure there is plenty to come. Eventually your functions will show up as well.
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  14. I have seen threads relating to this feature dating back to 2014. It's an odd omission, it would be great to have end-to-end encryption for entire notes or notebooks. Since the notes can be exported to HTML, this seems like it would not be too difficult to encrypt entire notes, even if they contain tables, specially formatted text or attachments.
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  15. I honestly don't understand how such a basic feature could not be a priority. The main goal of Evernote is to have an easy way to create and find notes, and showing only relevant tags is a great way to make it so much easier to find the note you're looking for. But good suggestion, I'll leave it as feedback in the app.
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  16. The new version sucks. Evernote began to consume 3-4 times more memory (more than 1 GB with 4 notes open), which is why the application slows down. The old version consumes 200-300 MB for the same number of notes. Even in the worst of times, when everyone called Evernote "the slowed-down elephant," the notebook ran faster. Side panel! Seriously? I see only a few tags on the 13-inch display instead of 20 in the old version. Do you call this "making a spacious design"? The new panel was not created to work with information. Colored tags! They made it possible to work very quickly and productively with notes. Where is the color? Shortcuts! Do you know why they are needed? To always be in front of my eyes and help in my work. Why did you remove them? Why did you add a link to the source under the title? This is unnecessary visual rubbish. Hide it. 2\10 I am disappointed
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  17. The Home dashboard on the iPad uses the mobile layout. All widgets are placed one under the other. This wastes a lot of screen space, because no widgets can be placed side by side. Idea: Use a layout similar to the desktop dashboard for the iPad. Widgets can be selected to be narrow, medium or wide. In the basic grid, one wide, or one medium and one narrow, or three narrow ones can be placed side by side.
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  18. I have been an EN user since Beta, and became a Premium user as soon as it was offered. I do not understand why EN is lagging with simple security options, such as easy encryption of notes and notebooks. This really should be as easy as a Right-Click or selection in properties for a Note or Notebook. The existing method of selecting text in a note and then using a Right-Click option to encrypt it is cumbersome at best. Yes, it is a nice feature if one wants to encrypt only a portion of a note. That's fine. But there should be an easy way to (1) encrypt an entire note without selecting text and (2) encrypt an entire notebook. I would be willing to pay a few bucks extra a year for this additional encryption ability. Seems this should be a no-brainier for EN, both as a tech matter and as a business/profit matter.
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  19. I completely agree. The current behavior could be improved. My expectation is what I enter a new task (when I hit the plus button on the side bar), I would like the task to be in the default task note, not the note that happens to be displayed. (If I was interested in entering a task within the note, I would use the plus button that's within the note menu bar.)
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  20. Why even have the button to create a new task at the same level as new notes? If the task goes into a note then the task button should be at the note level, in the menu bar above notes. That's the way I would like it. Now, to create a new note, I have to click new then select note. For people (like myself) who rarely use tasks, this is an unnecessary additional step.
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  21. ForgetfulElephant... I totally agree. I just upgraded to the latest version and I still can't select multiple tags. PLEASE, EVERNOTE, PLEASE GIVE US THIS FUNCTIONALITY!!! Thank you, hope you are listening, Judy
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  22. I just upgraded to the new version, 10.14, and am severely disappointed that this is an issue. I'm also extremely disheartened to see that it's been an issue since October. Is there any plan for bringing this feature back?
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  23. I just upgraded to the new version, 10.14, and am severely disappointed that this is an issue. I'm also extremely disheartened to see that it's been an issue since October. Is there any plan for bringing this feature back?
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  24. My god. i used this app for 10 years in differnet Android phones without problems. With the last actualization all change. All is difficult, the notes needs a lot of time to be loaded and practically the app is not usable when you need ro read a note quickly. i dont undersatnd what happenend but as a client i need to return very quickly to the app that we haved before this. I see in different places a lot of people having the same issues that I have currently.. It is the first time in 10 years that I think in change the note app.
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  25. Mine is on Android and version 10.7.2 and takes AGES to load notes. Was considering going premium but not now. Will be looking for another service as this is now unusable. Evernote what do you have to say on the subject?
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  26. Version 10.7 opens and loads a note in under 2s on my Android device.
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  27. The issues are so many and wo serious that is difficult to point them out. New version in slow, unacceptably slow. Tags are collected and asigned by the program from no-one knows where. When clipping, you must close and reopen the note to erase all those fake tags and add the right ones. When I clip videos from Youube, there was previously an option to clip 'only the link'. This saves space amd gets faster. You also avoid bad cluttering with incorrect stuff from the long vids page in youtube, and allows you to streamline the clipping of several related vids by joining their respective notes in the PC app afterwards. It was a VERY useful ability from previous version. Well, NO MORE. Also when clipping Internet pages into Evernote notes, the Android app now assigns a wrong default title. (To make things worse and more weird, the title is in Spanish! though I have as default language English in all my apps). The tagging ang untagging actions take way more time than before. I realize now that tagging is useless if you cannot do it fast. ALL other functions are also significantly slower. I suspect that even searching has become slower amd buggier. So Evernote, please acknowledge the wrongdoing and return to previous version. Please.
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  28. Evernote 10 on Android is so slow that it is now completely unusable. I am running it on adequate hardware. I can't imagine anyone can use the app without being completely frustrated. I have decided against renewing my subscription until this issue is fixed. I wish there was some acknowledgement from Evernote about the issue just to say that they have heard the feedback.
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  29. I fully agree. Evernote 10.x has introduced a "large" issue in terms of responsiveness which makes that - at least for me - Evernote is too difficult to use at this stage. Before version 10.x Evernote was more responsive. I was hoping that every new 10.x release of Evernote would solve the issue... but so far I haven't seen any improvement. The response-issues don't have a relation to my computer of mobile phone. I'm using 3 different recent computers using Intel i5 & i7 and 2 recent mid-end Android phones. On the other hand web-version looks OK. I hope that Evernote takes this message seriously as they risk that many end-users will start moving to competitive solutions because in case their response problem isn't solved.
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  30. How could evernote have removed this feature - it is inconceivable
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  31. It is bothersome that the numbered list format does not distinguish between different levels of the list. Currently the list format is: Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Level 2 It would be better if it were formatted like: 1. Level 1 A. Level 2 (1) Level 3 B. Level 2 I tagged this with names of all the platforms because it seems to be the case in all of them.
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  32. Hey Evernote, I just think it would be sooo GREAT to allow for COLORS in the background of my notes, sometimes. I think it is GREAT that my font can have a different color, but what about and why not allowing for a background color of the whole note? Thanks, so much. Keep up the GREAT work.
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  33. I have noticed when working on notes that Evernote 10 begins making duplicates of the note I am working on. By the time I am done I sometimes have to figure out which of the 2-4 notes is the correct one and Trash the rest.
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