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I am sick and tired of seeing the AI Edit option whenever I try to type anything into Evernote. My job does not necessitate any use of AI and so I would like to turn off the AI Edit option completely. Let me toggle it off. In addition, I want to be able to edit the note toolbar so I don't have to navigate a menu just to use the highlight tool. Since the AI option got added to the toolbar, no amount of maximizing my note screen will allow the highlight option to be ready to use. Instead I have to keep navigating a menu just to highlight text, which is disrupting my workflow. Please add the above features. Thank you.

We're fixing this soon. Likely in a week or two.

Issue: AI is of absolutely no value to me, but it insists on hijacking my notes and “cleaning things up.” This takes several minutes and I have not found a way to interrupt its cycle. I mainly us the IOS version and when the little double starred document AI symbol starts rapid flashing I might as well put my phone down and find something else to do.

Agreed. Sent this to Feedback@Evernote.com this morning. Thank you for giving us the option to get rid of the slash command prompt. But now, I have the AI Edit prompt in my way. I want a clean interface for writing my notes. I know you have an AI Edit. There's a big green and purple box in the corner. Can't miss it. Please remove the prompt. It just gets in the way and is at least as annoying as the slash command prompt.

We all saw this train-wreck coming, except BS, who for some reason chose to ignore the feedback. There are just so, so many problems now that it's laughable that it's called a 'productivity app'. The FORCED migration to this totally inept version from Legacy has cost me dozens, if not hundreds of lost hours & stress only to find out that nothing really works properly in V10....still, after all these years of them using us as beta testers!!!! I'm not a lawyer, but if someone were to start a lawsuit against them for prohibiting access to my Legacy data in a way I had been accustomed to & had paid for, I'd be joining it. Due to app problems I was unable to successfully export an complete ENEX backup of all my data from Legacy before they shut that down. I still can't now from V10 either & they're not even trying to help me via support, so that means I don't know what state my valuable data is in. I just noticed that one of my notes has an 'Untitled Attachment' which I can't access, so that means at least some data is missing, lost or corrupt. So, if BS in not already overwhelmed with the tsunami of anger & disappointment from their existing users, I suggest we LET THEM KNOW LOUD AND CLEARLY by creating lots & lots of noise everywhere we can. Support tickets, forum threads, social media, regular media, etc... Tell everyone you know what you think about Evernote now, just like we all did all those years ago while we helped it grow!

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! Federico Simionato, product lead at Evernote, replied to me on Twitter when I asked about this feature: FINALLY!!! It's in the works! 🙌🙌🙌 https://x.com/fedesimio/status/1780125529380712586

When I select a part of my note with hyperlink, it automatically shows "AI Edit" (AI 編集）above。 This AI function maybe useful for some users, but not for me. It's very annoying, and it's completely a distractor for me. Please give me an option to disable the "AI Edit".

Have been using legacy for years as a paid user.. I did try the new version initially but it was unusable then and it still is now. Why? If you're in software development like me, you know the new backend technology is based off of react/electron which is primarily used so that you only need to code one version across all platforms. It's a cost saving. Usability wise it's far, far slower and clunkier on mobile to use electron than it is to build apps natively, which is what legacy was. Any ideas about improvements on usability are ultimately a lie.. there's only so much you can do with a limiting tech stack. It's like having a bad engine in a car.. you can apply fancy paint to the body.. but it won't do you much good. If anyone working at Evernote does read this, my advice as someone who has worked in product development (tech) successfully would be: - Focus on actually finding out what users want, stop shipping random features. The basics of product development 101 - make sure what you're building is actually needed and useful. Avoid feature creep. Improve the core product first and foremost. Figure out what your moat is. Protect and improve it. Amazon, Google and Apple are all successful because they focused primarily on their core competency first - logistics, search engine, beautiful smartphones and laptops. Not because they added widgets or calenders or other side features to bloat their product. - Compare legacy to the new version. I've timed how long it takes to open a note on the new version - between first opening Evernote and then loading a note - it takes close to ten seconds. Versus around 2 seconds previously. I use Evernote for life tracking and business - doing that 30+ times a day = a significant waste of time. Easily 5+ minutes a day waiting on notes to load. - Compare legacy to the new version. The desktop app is fine, but on android the UI is clunky. Why does the home page need 50 widgets that no one wants? Just a list of the recently opened apps should be an option like before. Instead we get a widget that sort of does that, but badly. Whereas on one screen without scrolling I would previously see 7-8 recent notes listed vertically, I now see 2 and a half listed horizontally. - Compare legacy to the new version. The readability on android for the legacy version was far better. Text wasn't weirdly spaced line to line, it was more compact, allowing you to focus more on the text. I mean look at it - the space between each line is almost as high as the text itself! That's an incredible waste of screen space, but again one I think that's imposed by electron and not the developers themselves. If it's not, it should be an easy fix. Both the line spacing (vertically), and the text as a result being smaller (needs to be made bigger) should be fixed. To give credit, one positive of the new app is that it does allow you to change text colour in the app. Is that worth all the changes? No. Does the new version save the company a lot of money? Of course, multiple developers for each platform is expensive. But a faulty product is always more expensive in the long run. I have been a paid customer for years.. a long time.. but I will most likely look at cancelling. Luckily I like to declutter regularly and my note count is around 150, most of them information notes easily pasted over. I have been slowly making Notion my home over the last few years, with great success. True, it is equally slow due to running on the same tech stack (react/electron - which Evernote moved to to try and compete witn notion), but Notion's UI, hierarchal organisation and in-note features are from another planet compared to Evernote. The only thing keeping me on Evernote was the faster speed and the better readability on legacy, which I used for my day to day note editing.. but that's no longer there. A car with a good engine and fancy body paint is now just the fancy body point.. a shame. 10+ years but everything comes to a end at some point. Actually side edit for anyone in a similar predicament - I will also use and have moved over notes to Google keep for my day to day notes that I access, since it's both fast and readable (no massive line spacing like current android Evernote). Only negative is it doesn't have colour formatting for text, but not a big deal.

Well, good bye Evernote Legacy! My copy still starts but doesn't sync anymore, as it seems. So that's the end of EN legacy. I want to pause for a moment and reflect. EN legacy was a very useful tool. It made me very productive, indeed. I was a paying customer for 15 years and amassed some 16K notes in about 16GB storage space. I used EN in various way, as it offered different "personalities" for a number of usage scenarios. I loved EN, promoted it and recommended it to many colleagues and friends. When V10 was announced I was very optimistic. But the quality of the client was shocking and the number of dropped features bewildering. So I went back to legacy. I tried V10 every 6 months or so, just to establish that it is essentially in the same state, not much progress from my personal perspective. We were promised that over time, many omitted features will come back. But after more than 3 years, they just did not. A good example was the import folder. It carried the statement ("coming soon") in its option for the deletion of files upon successful import. It never came. After I reported the problem many times, they just took away the "coming soon" statement. About 5 months ago I started to look into alternatives, as I concluded that product management is non-existent, product planning ditto. New, jazzy features get introduced that I don't need. They all come with their own set of issues even bugs. I am not sufficiently technical I guess, so I couldn't find an adequate replacement as of yet. Thus decided to subscribe for another year. I didn't realize that prices have been tripled in the meantime. I have been trying hard to "get used to" V10. But the client is a mess. Very buggy, (e.g. PDF printing/exporting, HTML-export), lacks a structure (application specific option barely exist, those that do are dispersed all over the place), it has serious performance issues and, perhaps most infuriatingly, it kills my productivity. It does that by taking away simple but useful functions (e.g. select more than 100 notes, save attachments of a couple of selected notes or ability to change the mod-date of a note). It is not intuitive to use (e.g. grayed out option to copy/paste on context menu but the very same options are available on the main menu). It has become very tedious to use EN, one needs external tools (e.g. Autohotkey) to compensate for missing functions. Action that were in clear sight and needed just one click are hidden now and need 6-7 clicks to accomplish (if it is possible at all, which is frequently not the case). Usability and productivity are not something EN product management is wasting time on. I don't buy reasoning that only features were removed that nobody used. Really, nobody printed PDF, nobody exported to HTML etc.? BTW, by that argument, tags will have to go, too. V10 is in a terrible shape from my perspective. But the company has developed into a frightening operation, too. Customer support has been eliminated, bugs are not being fixed (some glaring ones are over 3 years old) and in general EN/BS is largely ignoring the customer base. Perhaps they want to get rid of customers who used legacy, just to stop complaints. It is quite amazing, all this. What the investor thinks is a riddle to me. Anyway, I did yesterday the very last printing to PDF, exporting to HTML (with working links and no "untitled attachments), reorganizing with more than 100 notes selected etc. Then I did my backups and drank a glass of wine, toasting to EN legacy. EN legacy was a wonderful idea, an affordable and good piece of software and EN was a good, responsive company. The rest we will see. I am not saying that EN will not be able to come to senses and turn around this business. But it is not on a good trajectory, that's for sure. This BS/EN is not the original inventor of EN. So there isn't anyone anymore that I could say thank you for Evernote (legacy). But thank you anyway, for the productivity gains I used to have. Sigh.

@Federico Simionato shared a detailed 10 minute video on X explaining what was recently rolled out and what is coming soon. I replied and asked them to upload it to YouTube as well but for now it can be viewed here. There is some good info on the reasoning for the mobile redesign as well as updates on RENT (metadata sync) and information about 2 way calendar and files.

The TLDR version: I came back because I found the Obsidian interface a too techie and fiddly. I didn't trust the plug-ins would always be updated (so I removed them all except one or two) and I disliked the way that Obsidian handled images. I also prefer the way Evernote handles documents in line. Worst of all I had issues with Obsidian sync and at one point had lots of duplicate files. Also the bookmark feature never worked consistently enough for me. The long version First up, I left Evernote b/c I had had enough of waiting for any kind of new features I liked, and I also felt a need to get my 2000 or so notes that dated back to when I first used Evernote in mid-2009 into a format that was "future proof". Also, Evernote being sold to a new developer didn't fill me with confidence -- so that was the final trigger for me to jump. After a lot of research "future proof" felt like mark down and Obsidian seemed the most feature rich of the MD editors. It had a lively plug in community, and the people behind it seem to be open and communicative. So I exported all of the Evernote notebooks as ENEX, imported everything into Obsidian and grabbed a handful of plug ins and got going. Also, because I am a Windows users with two Apple devices, I paid Obsidian an annual fee for the sync option. I came back because I found the Obsidian interface a too techie and fiddly. I didn't trust the plug-ins would always be updated (so I removed them all except one or two) and I disliked the way that Obsidian handled images. I also prefer the way Evernote handles documents in line. Worst of all I had issues with Obsidian sync and at one point had lots of duplicate files. Also the bookmark feature never worked consistently enough for me. So one day a couple of months ago I thought I'll see how Evernote is doing, downloaded it, imported a handful of files and played around with it. I liked it and I was encouraged by how much new and, to me, useful stuff was coming down the line from the new owners. I jumped on their web site and had a good look around and while they don't feel as permanent as, say, Microsoft or Google 🙂, they also don't seem like they are about to disappear overnight - but in this world who knows? I also read about the legacy version being killed off and all the negativity around that but given I wasn't going back to that version, it wasn't an issue for me. So, after a big import, a bit of faff adding back in the new Obsidian created files, I am back and after 6 weeks or so I am really enjoying it. And, touch wood, I have not had any of the performance or buggy issues that I see reported here. Fingers crossed... The final point: I subscribed to Personal for a month and just to test the waters, cancelled that after a few days to see if I could nab a "please don't go" discount. Sure enough I got a hefty discount off my first year -- somewhere around 25 or 30% from memory. I am not opposed to paying developers who make software I like and use. While I am happy with the discount, I don't have an issue paying full price for what I see as a pretty reasonable monthly figure to use Evernote.

Just had my price increase notification - subscription has nearly doubled, which is a bit of a shocker HOWEVER looking back over the 11 years I have been a subscriber the price has barely changed over that period. They say that on average inflation doubles costs every 10 years, so on that basis this adjustment (though unwelcome) might actually be a correct level reset based on what the price when I started was. Evernote has been pretty ropey in recent years, but is getting better, and as a repository, storage and retrieval system is something that I rely on, though I use it less and less for notetaking these days. Features that I need are all back from previous versions, only the speed needs to improve. I know the old " its only the price of two coffees a month" argument isn't a great one, but that's what the cost is at local prices here. I guess you need to choose what subscriptions are worth your two coffees and I've decided that Evernote is worth it for my use case. Respect to anyone who disagrees, but thought I should submit a positive against the overwhelming amount of bad press on here over recent months.

After updating to EN 10.84.3 WIN, all my notes look a bit "weird" - something happened with line spacing, or maybe more accurately with paragraph spacing, which is much bigger now? Anybody else having the same experience? It's probably not so noticeable in short texts, but in longer notes I find it quite disturbing.

Transitioning from Legacy to V10 as an 83-year-old Evernote user has been quite the journey. I created my first note back in May of 2005, and today, I have amassed over 10,500 notes. While I'm unsure how this number compares to other users, managing them keeps me occupied. Sensing the impending changes, I took the plunge in late January and downloaded Version 10. The download itself was swift, and to my relief, the note count in the new version matched that of Legacy. However, upon opening Version 10, I was met with shock—its performance was sluggish to say the least. Leaving the new version running in the background, I scoured the internet for answers. A special thanks to Dave Edwards and his informative videos on the new Evernote. One video, in particular, caught my attention—it detailed how the Legacy notes need to undergo a process for V10 to read them, advising patience. As I exercised patience, I began familiarizing myself with the new layout, noting the relocation or disappearance of familiar buttons. Nine weeks have passed since then, and today, I've managed to locate most of my favorite buttons, links, and shortcuts. However, one feature I sorely miss is the ability to color code notebooks, which was immensely helpful in my Evernote usage. Many of my notebooks, such as Family Photos, Family History, and Travel, were easily identifiable by color, which streamlined my workflow. Looking ahead, I'm optimistic about the new features introduced in V10 and am committed to integrating them into my Evernote usage. However, one concern lingers—price. Nonetheless, where else can you have your own personal filing system accessible anywhere in the world for just 37 cents a day? Regardless of age, the journey of learning never ends! Best regards, ClutterBGone March 26, 2024 Just for fun I ran the above through the AI Summarizer program: What do you think? Transitioning from Legacy to V10 as an 83-year-old Evernote user has been quite the journey, with over 10,500 notes accumulated since 2005. Upon downloading V10, the note count matched that of Legacy, but its performance was sluggish. Seeking solutions online, I found Dave Edwards' informative videos about V10 and learned about the process for V10 to read Legacy notes. Despite familiarizing myself with the new layout, I miss the ability to color code notebooks, which streamlined my workflow. Despite optimism for new V10 features, concern remains about the price, although Evernote offers accessibility for just 37 cents a day.

I noticed today that all my note links (internal) have changed color from the usual green to blue in macOS (EN client v10.84.3 updated today). I liked that the note links were always shown in green to differentiate them from other links like web and local file ones that have always been shown in blue. Now that everything is blue it is impossible to pick apart a note link from a web link, or a local file link. Note links were still shown in green in iOS (EN v10.83.0) but were also changed to blue in the latest update v10.84.2 Changes like these feel so arbitrary. I can understand if something gets changed to improve the product, but this change isn't improving anything, it feels more like a huge regression instead.

This will make that one guy with his notes trapped in Apple Notes very happy! It looks like it's going to support docx, HTML, txt, and md plus OneNote, Notion, and Google Docs.

Here's a Youtube link for those who are Elon-adverse:

See ya guys. I'll hang on my other thread maybe, but PE makes this exasperating. No wonder he has 25k posts. Flaming other frustrated members perpetually. Mods, my previous comment still gently but firmly stands. Count me as another out on account of him.

My mind is blown that you would be frustrated on the limitations of the free version of a product. You aren't leaving. You were never a customer or a user of the real software. The new features are quickly transforming it from my note and digital storage software to my everything software. I think you would have a different opinion if you weren't looking for something for free. Think about most "free" software.. those companies (Google, FB etc) are taking your data. You are the product. I highly doubt there is any profit in a free tier EN customer. It's basically an evaluation tier.

Back during the beta of the new Evernote, I mentioned in the beta test forums that there were features I used in Evernote that were not in the beta. That was in October of 2020. When the new Evernote was released, many of those functions were not in the new Evernote. Yet features that were useless to me kept on being added! I continued to use Evernote Legacy. Every once in a while, I would look for a replacement. All I tested had issues. 2 weeks after I paid for another year of Evernote, I received an email saying that sync for Evernote Legacy was being removed on March 23! I knew that they had stopped supporting Evernote Legacy a long time ago ... but I never expected the sync to be deprecated! I found several articles on Evernote Alternatives and started testing conversions and syncs to Android. FYI, my Evernote DB has 11 stacks, a couple of hundred notebooks, and nearly 10K notes! The ENEX files of the stacks total just under 2 GB. Many of the note apps I found did not have a conversion function from Evernote... In my tests, I had conversion issues with OneNote, Zoho Notebook, Notion & Obsidian (Obsidian didn't keep the last modified date of my notes!). I had sync issues with OneNote. I ended up deciding to use Joplin (https://joplinapp.org/, https://joplinapp.org/help/). Joplin has versions for Windows, Mac, Mac M1's and Linux. Mobile versions for Android and iOS... Interestingly, one article about converting to Obsidian suggests using Joplin in order to convert to ENEX and then using the MD files with Obsidian! Both Joplin and Obsidian save files locally. Obsidian uses a FolderSync app to send changes to other devices. I had issues with the DropBox and OneDrive syncs for Joplin: the syncs stop when the device locks. As my phone locks after 10 minutes, this was unacceptable! I asked on their forums and Joplin Cloud was recommended by one user. Joplin is free, Joplin Cloud Basic is 28.7 euros/year while Joplin Cloud Pro is 57.5 euros/year. I had to buy Pro due to the size of some of my notes: Basic is limited to 10 MB per note or attachment while Pro has a 200 MB note or attachment limit. Joplin Forums are very responsive by the way, especially compared with Obsidian's forums: after 10 days, I still have had no response to 2 questions about Obsiddian imports! Also, no one from Zoho support responded to my support email about conversion issues. Even those this is late, I hope this helps some of those who are looking for a replacement for Evernote Legacy! John

Just to give you a heads up, DOS has also been discontinued. You need to migrate to Windows as soon as possible. Make sure you back up your autoexec.bat file.

How can I remove the message "Press '/' for insert an element" ... this is really just annoying

Well written... Evernote Legacy is NEVER coming back. It had many features/performance/non-bugs I loved in the past....... v10 is the future OR I have to find another tool. I choose to stick around, until Evernote scores 9 out of 10 again for me. 6 out of 10 right now...3 out of ten a year ago.... So I spend my energy in writing good written, reproducible reports for bugs and desires. Some get honored, some don't. When I leave? I stop that. Will I leave? Not yet. Half happy now.

I actually agree with this pretty completely. I don't know if this is the BenSpoo corporate culture, if they take this lab-rat approach to the users of all their apps, or it's something they're trying out with Evernote. Want to change the UI of the desktop/Web and then mobile apps? Try this: announce a beta group and experiment on them! But then you want to know how a group of non-self-selected-volunteers would react? Too bad--you can't do that. After the beta test, then announce the change so people can look at it, and then make it, and if it draws a lot of fire tweak it or roll it back. Takes too long? No, it doesn't. It takes the amount of time necessary to do something right. It may take the sum total amount of time for BenSpoo equivalent to all the time taken by unsuspecting users trying to figure out what the 🤬 is going on under the current system. Oh, we could have found out about it on X or the blog? I waste too much time in these forums doing meta-Evernote stuff, and have too much concern for my mental health to ever go on X. And yes, I will be sending this to feedback@evernote.com.

Does BS actually realize that a lot of us actually DEPEND on being able to access the data we have in EN?!?! This isn't some F'ing game we're all playing here. Stop rolling out un-authorized, un-tested, un-explaind changes to all of us: We're not paying to be your beta testers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This AI Edit button appearing over anything selected in a note now is absolutely obnoxious. I don't have any use for this feature and it's now literally getting in my way and just actively aggravating me. I want the ability to disable any AI junk from Evernote completely.

Dear Evernote, Please tell me what my note says.

Plus one for the option to turn it off. It feels like each feature added lately is doing a really good job of getting in my way whilst working. I dont mind new things being added, but the option to hide should surely be there from day one.

You know, I'm thinking EverNote could make a killing selling Legacy as an alternative to their new app...

You're not an oddball. It may sound trite, but one of the reasons I resisted switching for so long was the utter waste of space in v.10's UI. I don't use the same layout as you, but it's the same issue. I prefer the larger note list in the left column with more of the note showing. On my laptop running v.6 I could see 10 notes in the left column. Running v.10 I cannot see more than 5, no matter how wide I make the column or how small I make the font. It is utterly maddening. There is so much wasted white space above and below each note, serving no purpose, and meanwhile I have to scroll twice as much. Same on iPad. I just do not get it. At least give me the option to have a more efficient compressed layout,especially on my devices with smaller screens - like iPad mini! I've accepted that it's v.10 or nothing if I want to keep using Evernote, and I'm mostly okay with it, but every time I see that wasted space and remember how much better v.6 was in this regard, and how *stupid* this layout is for no reason, my blood boils.

Did I say that EN was my "private project" @PinkElephant? I don't think so! FYI, I've been a software trainer and consultant since 1989 (I started training people on WordPerfect 4.2!). And I have been involved in dozens of different beta tests since that time ... including several older versions of EN! The best apps I have worked with are those that ask clients what features they want on public feedback sites. And then try to implement them if many clients ask for them! For one app, I made a suggestion once and it wasn't implemented for over 5 years. When I asked about it at a partner conference, I was told that they couldn't implement it with the old development tools they used, they had to wait until they changed dev tools!

If you are on Free, you can’t. There is only 1 notebook allowed. if you are on a subscription, you create the new notebook, make it the default, and the erase the first. Erasing a notebook will send all notes in it to the trash ! I don’t see a logic behind it - renaming the existing default notebook would probably be easier.

@agsteele, I think you would know this: Is there still a beta testing program? I would think that that would be the logical venue for "work in the earliest stages of development," not a random group of increasingly mystified users. Hopefully it will have some purpose and function(s) someday, but in the meantime, seriously, isn't this what beta is for??

I really liked the fact that internal Evernote links were green but links to external websites were blue. It made it immediately clear if the weblink was "hidden" behind a text link. Now everything is blue. (10.84.3). Looks particularly ugly in the pop up as the text there is still green Just venting here, I will feedback to EN directly.

It is linking to sections within a note. I believe it will provide an anchor link for each section started with a heading.

@Razmataz There are different truths... 🙂 And emotion will not help you. Labels like "ridiculous", using capitals, using exclamation marks usually makes the people I talk to stop thinking, stop asking me questions, stop helping me. It might be different for you, but I just share my experience. I do understand your frustration, I share your frustration (though I try to park that) but frustration has never helped me. 😘🙏🤗❤ It's a fact for me that if Outlook would function as Evernote, people would leave it en masse. For example, if I change tags, delete notes, etc.. My filters many times show for 10 minutes, sometimes up to half an hour an out of date result. If Outlook would do that, everybody would complain and leave. For me this is clearly broken. According to the support responses (also from people, not only AI) Evernote recognizes the problems, is working on RENT to fix these and I am patiently waiting. For people who don't delete/sort/edit/tag/filter the way I do with my types of notes, they apparently see nothing broken in Evernote v10. I respect that. Two things can be true at once. My truth is a different one. I repeat: First versions of v10 got 1 star out of 10 from me, when I switched v10 got 3 stars out of 10. Now I give v10 5½ stars out of 10. In 12 months I hope I give it 8 stars out of 10. In the meanwhile I chose thé two items to report to Evernote that would help me most and start a civilized, stripped-of-emotion dialogue with clear reports, reproduction. My experience so far is that they listen to me and fix about half I report.

This is a nice interview. Talks a lot about the company and some of the acquisitions. A couple of quotes relating to Evernote: "When Bending Spoons acquired the company last year, it boasted $100m in recurring revenue and millions of customers — but it had been unprofitable for years." "He tells Sifted that Evernote is now a profitable, sustainable business." Full article here: https://sifted.eu/articles/bending-spoons-italy-startup-ipo

Please can I have the LAST word on this? It's not worth arguing here about the relative merits of third part products or lamenting the sad demise of Legacy. Everyone is entitled to their own - hopefully brief - opinion. Once stated, please move on!

I think everyone agrees that v10 is worse than legacy. The question is how much worse it is. Many here think that version 10 is so bad that it's not worth it. I'm from the group that thinks it's not that bad so much so that I keep paying and use Evernote normally. V10 has a lot of bugs but it's still the best note taking program I know so I keep using it. I hope that BS can increasingly improve the current version, knowing that it will never be the same as the legacy. Correction: Most of us agree that v10 is worse than legacy....

The issue's you are having like @PinkElephant said are due to your notes converting from the legacy to the new data structure. This happens the very first time you open a note in v10. If you encounter issues with a certain note try going to Note History to see if there is a prior version that can be restored. That seems to be helping some people with conversion issues. Needless to say the more you use v10 the more these issues will work themselves out.

+1. The "AI Edit" button is intrusive and annoying. Just because I'm highlighting some text, that doesn't mean I necessarily want a button hovering over the non-highlighted text and obscuring it.

So I deleted two comments here because I'm now fed up with schoolyard arguments. If you dislike remarks made here, please use 'ignore' or just move on. Sniping back just continues the aggravation. Venting, requests for help, and grown-up responses welcomed. Anything else, please keep it to yourself.

Long time Evernote user. 10 years? Feels like forever. Used Legacy up to the last day. Now on the “new version.” Like my previous experiences, the “new” Evernote is absolute *****. It takes 30-40 seconds just to create a note. Search is painfully slow. The Lag is sooooooooooo bad. I know it’s been said a million times, but it is sad and criminal what Evernote has done to this product. It was a great working product that they ruined. Why did they have to kill the last lifeboat for legacy users? As it functions now, Evernote is an unusable product. Sad day.

They said "beautiful new user interface—now available to all Desktop" actually ver 10 is disgusting. It is slow, inconvenient, is not user friendly. ver6 much much better. Does anyone know an alternative to move all database to a some another service?

@gazumped, that's the problem with some of you on this forum, you see. It is clear that legacy is gone, and no amount of complaining will bring it back. It is true, that BS/EN has the right to double prices and they could even quadruple them. It is true that forum is not there for the disappointed user to simply complain. And it is true that valuable help is given here to people who have problems. But is is also true that the help often comes with belittling comments, some of the dominating forists even outright bully other people, who genuinely have problems. So the these people have to endure this style, because there is no other way to get help, as support does not exist (for practical purposes). You understand your job as having to be complacent with EN and having to down-talk or even negate any problems others might have. But your mantra is true, too. But it isn't true and it is an egregious lie to say You read this forum. There are literally dozens of broken things with V10. Not even counting the missing and promised (but not delivered) features. Features that are there and have been implemented, are broken. Broken to the bone. There are dozens of examples for anyone to see. You say you are not paid by Evernote. But even if you were, such a blatant distortion of the facts would be appalling. From a volunteer it is not just appalling, it is mind-boggling and shocking. And as a moderator you are supposed (at least by conventional rules) to be neutral, fair, and a guardian of the facts and truth. "Nothing is 'broken' and there's nothing to fix." could not be farther from the truth. Why are you doing this?

No hired guns here. This seems to be a spectacularly pointless thread celebrating the fact that 4 years ago a handful of obsolete applications were replaced with a completely new and redesigned single product. A few subscribers continued to use their own version of this obsolete package against repeated warnings from all sides, while the vast majority either found an alternative or got used to the new systems. When the number of users on the old system fell below 1%, the cost of maintaining that system became unsustainable. To maintain their profitability the company closed that system down. These few users now either want to get their old packages back (not going to happen) or convert the new product into a mirror image (impractical, if not impossible). Evernote is (according to a recent post) a profitable company with millions of users. The dissatisfaction of such a small group is not going to cause much of a ripple in their ongoing development. These users could accept that the past is gone and simply make their case for redevelopment of features they consider to be missing. Evernote have introduced many features that have been requested by users for years like real-time collaboration and (coming) in-note links - they're clearly open to suggestions. Or they could continue to to disrupt a forum which is intended to help users get around day-to-day technical issues with random impassioned outbursts that don't help anybody and waste the time of volunteers like myself who are actually here to help if we get the chance.

Well, I accidentally tapped it because it popped under the mouse cursor after selecting text, even though I do not want it, at all ! If it's "opt-in", then it should appear in the settings as a toggle so we can turn it off, especially as it is obnoxiously invasive even if you didn't click it. I don't want that AI feature on my notes, no intrusive popup tooltips, and certainly not sharing some of my notes with third parties so that "AI features" I give zero ***** about can be used

Hmmn. The 'old' Evernote had a team working on each OS - so at minimum iOS/ MacOS/ Android/ Windows/ Linux - producing code-specific versions of a central 'model' of a note-taking app. Some OS's allowed tweaks that others did not - Macs did not (AFAIK) have Import Folders, Windows did not have inline spreadsheet views. Obviously that's expensive - you basically have 5x the cost of the staff, plus random updates to deal with from each OS and browser version. Two of the major complaints from users were: Why does the UI look different on each of my my devices? and I can't pick a consistent font for my notes. So 'old Evernote went away and rewrote everything in Elektron to reduce internal costs and deliver for their users. However Elektron had its own tweaks and limits, and the 6th(?) Elektron team were taking years to deliver their code (It's a big app - and they probably had a learning curve). So for a first iteration v10 was delivered with a limited number of the 'most used' features. And went down like a lead balloon with everyone (including me). Embroiled from that point in bugs, complaints and feature requests Evernote forgot all about income and costs, and I'd imagine became a pretty toxic environment. Investors I would imagine, would start wanting out. Lets not forget also that the long running 'free' service, rather than being a constant source of source new business is (probably) a huge cost sink, and for historical reasons dozens of users are paying different 'grandfathered' amounts because their product no longer exists. There's presumably lots of extra code to limit their access to their own feature set. Along comes Evernote enthusiast Bending Spoons who want to see this situation fixed, for their own reasons. The 'new' Evernote team work to fix backend support issues, old code and missing features, and drag Evernote kicking and screaming into the 24½th century. US and other employees are let go (on, I understand, generous terms) to bring the whole operation back to Italy (more or less) under one roof. That's great for efficiency - it takes a couple of days to travel from Milan to the US - but maybe not the best idea to lose all that expertise. (It's just code - how hard can it be...) Since this is now a 2024 commercial operation and they're operating on 2018 funding levels, costs have to go up. Since 'grandfathered' users are an expensive anomaly (they pay less but add complication) they get added to the normal cost & feature structure. As (presumably) light users they have to make a choice - is Evernote now worth it for them? Similar treatment for Free users. So here we are. Evernote is what it is. Either it's worth it to you to subscribe or not. But it's not a conspiracy, or a horrible mistake of some kind - it's just natural development of a product which is still one of he market leaders with a (mostly) quiet user group of thousands? Millions? Since 'Spoons have their own users who are probably only now hearing about their new acquisition after some of the worst dents have been worked out, I'd be confident that Evernote will make it to that 100-year target they always had. It will certainly do me for the foreseeable future. -That history is about 90% fact and 10% speculation and 100% my personal view. You are, of course, entitled to your own perspective; but I'm still surprised by the time and energy being exercised here berating a company that actually seems to be doing pretty well by its users. Legacy is not coming back, and everyone has the choice of stay or leave. Evernote clearly didn't expect the storm that brewed in recent months, but I'm sure they'll work through it. Meantime I'm just another user (honest) and pleased to help anyone who has a (polite) request for assistance. Have a nice day...

the AI button is driving me mad on my Windows 11 version. Every time I try to select some text to copy and paste it the button pops up and I cant get rid of it

No one gives a ***** fella. I was waiting for how long it would take for you to chime in, less than a few minutes, you never disappoint. One benefit about ditching this garbage software will be not having to deal with clowns like you trolling the forums 24x7