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  1. That’s a shame. I am certain that this 'Work Chat' is a great tool but there are two fundamental problems with it: 1. It's fairly aggressive to shove major features in people’s faces like that, especially when 2. Some of us use Evernote to do intimate, personal creative work. The Evernote window is a safe space and even the suggestion of outside interference is enough to threaten the perceived safety of the workspace that we inhabit for so many hours a day. Here's hoping that an update rectifies this by giving us the ability to opt out. I'm sure this sounds batshit crazy to some of you but it would be enough to quit Evernote, and I've been a user since Evernote was in beta in 2008.
    2 points
  2. EN for Android v7 is a real milestone of exploring the tool's potential on Android tablet. The team deserves to be appreciated for the hard work. Still, two important features are expected to come back as soon: 1. Slider in note pane, note list and tag list 2. Return to the leaving position after accessing a shortcut Currently I use EN for Android v.5.4.1 on my phone. With that version, all necessary sliders are present and number of notes/tags would be displayed to the right of the parent tag in light-color fontAll these features are elements critical for highly efficient navigation, and are expected to come back to the tablet version. Thanks a lot.
    1 point
  3. How do I get rid of the new 'Work Chat' button in the Mac Client's toolbar? I don't want it and I don't want to have to see it. There should be a way to disable the feature and any of its mentions wholesale. If it takes a Premium subscription to be able to get rid of Work Chat, I will pay for Premium just to have that. I know I can just 'not use it' – but that's not enough.
    1 point
  4. As I understand it, they will eventually roll out the new editor to all platforms. It is out for desktop but I'm not sure it is in the mobile apps yet. It is a work in progress.
    1 point
  5. The changes are also in the latest public version 5.8.5.7193. Go to Tools -> Options -> General tab and select "enable beta features and updates." FWIW I have found the bulleting to be greatly improved. In the past, cutting and pasting is where I usually ran into problems with extra or missing bullets. Since using this new version, with the beta features enabled, I've yet to see any problems with bullets.
    1 point
  6. Evernote does not release their future plans. Here are some past discussions on mind mapping https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/25608-request-mind-mapping/ https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/53060-mind-map-software-any-that-integrate-save-to-that-you-know-of/ https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/75790-use-mind-map-to-link-to-notes/
    1 point
  7. It's in my way because it's stopping me sharing a notebook. Sharing request delivery is via Work Chat and there is no way to send them any other way but it is not delivering them. I'm a professional software developer with over 30 years experience including a large portion of that in products used by tens of thousands of users around the world. There have been a couple of times in my years of using Evernote where I've felt a loss of quality and focus - things have been allowed to escape into the wild well before they are ready and the consumer experience has really sucked as a result. This is starting to feel like a dark time and that the people pushing business and chat are spoiling the product.
    1 point
  8. I mostly use Evernote for my own work and personal use, but I occasionally want to share a note. It's beyond annoying that I can't share a note without the bleeping work chat window popping up. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us disable this aggravating feature. And I'm a Premium User.
    1 point
  9. I am a premium member who is starting to dislike how bloated evernote is becoming. The work chat is clutter that I don't appreciate and want to turn off. I have umpteen million ways to chat on a computer and having one more that is late also very to the party is more annoying than helpful. Bloat like that should be able to be turned off. You have already added so much mobile app that its core usability is getting dragged down, and then you decided to add an IM feature too. It is your app... and you are free to kluge it up however you wish. I was a very happy user for a few years... but now it looks like it is time to find cleaner more effective tool for my notes.
    1 point
  10. Emailing a note in the Mac client is no longer accessible through the "share" icon on the note itself. You have to go up to the toolbar, click Note, click More sharing, click Email (at the bottom of the list). People without business accounts should not be subjected to Work Chat. It's not explicitly clear what my recipients will see when I share a note via Work chat. Will the note only be accessible on the web app? Will they get an email about my sharing the note? When sharing to someone like my wife who only uses Evernote when I share a note with her, will she have to log in to Evernote to get my Work chat -- in other words, will I have to send another message to her letting her know I've sent her a message via Evernote? I have used Work chat three times to test it out. My recipients have not received a message (at least not one we can find) any of the times. To reiterate, if it was clear what Work Chat actually does, I may be more apt to use it. As of now, it a) hasn't worked when I've tried it and b ) isn't clear what it actually does.
    1 point
  11. I want to add my voice to the hew and cry. I detest chat. Detest it completely. Here is why: From an earlier post: The only time you need to use work chat is to invite a fellow evernote user to collaborate on a notebook. This is 95% of what my team does. We use Evernote to record client notes, track status, document knowledge base materials, pre-prep presentations - etc. We collaborate via the note itself. And how many times in the past month do you suppose I've had to provide user support for my team when no one can figure out how to share a dang note anymore!!! I'm paying for this service every month for my team and this feature absolutely does not work for us because we're being forced to do something entirely counter-intuitive. I want it gone or I'm going to have to leave Evernote. I'm not the only user who feels this way. This feature is a huge fail. By all means, have a chat function - lots of programs do - but why in the world did it have to be coupled with sharing?
    1 point
  12. So glad to see I'm not alone in my desire to disable chat. I do use EN for work and collaboration with my team. But, the last thing I need is another interruption in my work. When I'm working in EN, the last thing I want is to be interrupted. If I wanted that, I'd stare at my email all day. All you managed was to take my quiet space away. If it doesn't get nixed soon, I'll go elsewhere.
    1 point
  13. Oh wow so I am not the only one who stared to the new Chat window, wondering how I can make it usable when all I want to do is share a notebook with a collaborator who is not very fond of Evernote and prefer emails. I can undertand the use for the chat in certain businesses, but why can't i share notebooks by email, the old way? It was simple, efficient, easily understood on both sides.
    1 point
  14. [ Emphasis mine. ] People can't articulate it — so what? I don't think it's required that we be able to articulate it. As you mention yourself, a lot of people want it disabled. That should be enough. A lot of 'articulations' of preferences are mostly things our logical brain makes up anyway, we don't really ever fully know why we like certain things and not others. This does not invalidate the preferences in question. Why do you love one person and not another? You can try 'articulating' it but you won't get to the heart of the matter. Additionally, lots of people have articulated why, in this very thread. It is invasive (cosmetically and psychologically)It is too close to other functionsThe inability to customize a toolbar is non-native behaviour, at least on a MacIt feels like Evernote is shoving this feature down our throats when it is neither needed nor wanted
    1 point
  15. That sounds like a bug if the popup is persistent. Once that is cleared up, I don't imagine Work Chat will be in your way too much. I haven't needed to share anything since Work Chat was released, so honestly, I don't even notice that it is there. I have yet to see it interfere with my workflow (popups aside). A lot of people are complaining about WC and want it disabled, but none seem to be able to clearly articulate why they feel that way (other than saying "because I just do"). I'd be very interested to hear if/how Work Chat interferes with your flow (aside from popups, which are definitely frustrating) once your popup situation is resolved. I am definitely NOT dismissing your feelings! I am sincerely interested in understanding why people are so desperate to disable something that, to me, is barely noticeable. To articulate then.... MOST IMPORTANT: It's fundamentally become harder to share notes and notebooks rather than easier. My recipients have gone from being able to collaborate with me within seconds to calling me up and asking me what they are supposed to do with this chat thing.Another chat is not needed. I use iMessage, Text, What's app, Skype etc.It clutters Evernote. One of the strengths was that it was a clean, simple interface. Adding anything that take away from that reduces this experienceYou've replaced something very good with a much poorer UX. I.e. removing the simple way of emailing a note - something that just worked well with something that just isn't clear how it's workingIt forces people down a path which they neither need to go nor want to go. This approach simply alienates users.It's intrusive.It's neither fish nor fowl. Tech works best when a function is absolutely clear. In Work Chats bumpf it's described as 'kind of a chat way of sharing' (my translation of your words). Let sharing be sharing. Let chat be chat.Hope that helps. Please, please kill it and restore the ease of sharing that was there before for notes and notebooks. Email is old and not a great platform, but so universal, even my 80 year old technophobe friends can use it. They'll never ever be able to use Work Chat.
    1 point
  16. I don't ever ... and I mean EVER post to Forums. I really should more! Why this time... because since Work Chat life for me and my very non-tech friends has become so much harder. Very very bad call on Evernote's part.
    1 point
  17. Once again, we bump up against the fact that for some strange reason, Evernote DOES NOT HAVE A CONFIGURABLE TOOLBAR..! Yeah, I know I keep banging on about this, but nobody seems to listen. I have zero use for Workchat, BUT - that bloody button is right there in my face on my Mac client, right next to the "Add new page" button, but the "Email note" is now relegated two-deep in a menu, when I want it on the toolbar. Alongside the Print button, that I also can't put on there. And to make it worse, they've now done it on the iOS client too - there is a big button for "Chat" that I cannot get rid of. AARGGGHHH - I WANT IT ALL SWITCHED OFF AND BUTTONS GONE! And while we're on the subject of the iOS version, when oh when is Evernote going to do something about that stupidly tiny "two sloping arrow" button to make the note go full screen, that is too tiny for my big fingers, and is right below the Close button on my iPad, which I hit constantly while trying to make the note full-screen? I'm referring here to the iPad version (which also has the silly "Chat" button!) Evernote - please listen - give us back our configurable toolbar on the desktop clients (especially the Mac one), and add an option to disable Workchat COMPLETELY on all clients, and if switched off, make that button disappear. What is the point of having a button in our face if we're never going to use that function?
    1 point
  18. I completely agree with the feelings expressed her. I don't use Evernote for collaboration work so the chat buttons taking up space for me. It makes more sense for the "work" environment. For personal use, not so much. There needs to be a way to turn this feature off for those who are interested in using it.
    1 point
  19. Well, this is pretty much unbelievable! The UI design for creating, identifying, and managing Local Notebooks is unbelievably poor! It is hard to image how this could have ever been conceived by a developer as a usable interface, and even more hard to image how it could get past ANY QC or usability testing. Here's what I'm seeing (or NOT seeing) on EM Mac 5.5.1 (latest ver): There is NO way whatsoever you can identify a NB as being "Local" On normal, Sync'd NB, when you mouseover the NB in the NB panel, you see a popup gear icon, which, if clicked, displays the NB properties, including whether it is "Sync'd" or "Local". This Gear Icon does NOT appear for Local NB. So I guess, indirectly, this gives the User a clue that the NB is Local. But it certainly is NOT clear, and still leaves doubt in the User's mind. When you create a new NB from the NB panel button, it does NOT give you a choice of Sync'd or Local To create a Local NB, you have to use the menu File > New Notebook > and then either Sync'd Notebook OR Local Notebook. Evernote, you really dropped the ball on this one.
    1 point
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