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I've already read the multitude of posts on this topic. I've been an Evernote user since the beginning and I've always thought it was a great product. As soon as I thought of a feature, the Evernote folks have already been cooking it up. Recently I ran up against the notebook limit, I contacted customer support and they gave my the "you should use tags instead" line. I am a Developer myself, and while I do not purport to know how Evernote is built or the whoas of maintaining a system with so many users, I can't imagine any reason why arbitrarily setting a limit of 250 notebooks, improves system performance or usability. It seems that a decision was made that people should use tags rather than notebooks without any regard for how current users prefer to work. In particular, the fact that I choose to be a premium user and and still limited to 250 notebooks seems absurd. At least choose a number that very few people would run up against like 1000, or make the free limit 100 and the premium limit 1000, that way if the limit really bothers someone it will incentivize them to pay for your service. 

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24 minutes ago, wahlink@hotmail.com said:

its very important to create folders based on different levels of access.

That's my primary use of notebooks; sharing data with different levels of access.  
It looks like this shared access function is being replaced by the new Spaces feature.
I'm also looking foward to notes existing in multiple Spaces.

I think the limit issue has more to do with using notebooks to create different views of the data collection.

>>Tags are confusing

Please explain.
In many ways, Tags and Notebooks are interchangeable (attributes assigned to a note)
For example, with a note about insurance; you can have an Insurance Notebook, or an Insurance Tag

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As a Premium user for sometime I am continually frustrated by the limit on 250 folders and perplexed why this should be such a hinderance when I have ample overall storage space in my plan. 

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I'm not actually sure why it's limited to 250 notebooks-- given that tags are limited to 10k and content uploads, note sizes, and note counts are also limited, it seems a bit superfluous to me. I'm looking into it a bit to see if I can get a better explanation.

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Asked around, there were historical reasons to have a limit at 250, having to do with client UI and such. Those reasons have since been solved. It's still not as simple as changing a number, but it's easy enough now that it could happen. I don't think there are any plans to do it but I personally would like to see it.

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30 minutes ago, Don Dz said:

Forgot about that.  That single assignment is the main functional difference from tags, which works for me, though in reality there isn't a physical file separation in the program.

You can certainly navigate your notes using the tag  tree in the desktop applications, if that's what you mean by "physical file separation". If you only use one tag per note (a policy you'd need to enforce on yourself), that's pretty much equivalent to navigating the notebook tree.

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46 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

Living with less than 250 notebooks IS possible.

Yes indeed it is possible. I understand that everybody's needs and usages are different, I get that! But the notebook structure is such a linear, and "old school" way of filing. It is how we were programmed since we started messing with computers. Things | Files belong in one location...that's how folder structures worked and that's how our physical environment work. You have a letter you need to file, you will put in a filing cabinet, one drawer, one location!

But electronic files do not need to follow that at all. Proper indexing and tagging is all what we need. We don't know where exactly it is on the hard drive, right? It just has to be retrieved when we need it. Similarly, as long as you can retrieve it, notebooks can be irrelevant too. Our brains however work a lot differently..in categories and many different categories. One item belongs to many categories depending on the situation, context etc. A fire truck could be things that are red, or emergency vehicles, things with sirens on etc. I would recommend (which I posted before) Organized Mind book by Daniel Levitin, he explains the categories and how our brains work way better than I would. This is why the tagging will work better than the notebook structure. You can combine both of course but again the solution is not the number of notebooks to the organization problem.

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I know people will still say I need my more than 250 notebooks etc. but if there is that limit and Evernote seems to be sticking to it, I would recommend everybody to get out of their comfort zone and look for solutions. To me this is not a deal breaker. There are other issues and concerns for sure that takes precedence in my opinion.

Security and encryption are big concerns for many so I definitely get that. So I would harp on that before the 250 notebook limit.

My 2 cents on the issue!

Happy Friday Eve!

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Since Evernote haven't made any move in this direction over the several years that folks have been asking for it,  I can only assume they looked at it,  compared the difficulty and cost of retooling their system to allow more notebooks with the likely gain in revenue from the relatively few users who have persistently asked for it,  and have concluded that the effort just ain't worth the candle.  Plus they have hundreds of thousands of users who are quite happy with the current limit and are presumably growing at a reasonable rate through adding other features.  I'd say the idea of creating a new tier of users and charging more for the privilege would be more expensive to implement than anything else - there would be so much to change (and so much outrage from other users) that there would be no actual gain.

 

End of the day,  it's their game,  so their rules!  :)

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39 minutes ago, Don Dz said:

Apparently you use it to some limited extent (Notebook - single note assignment)

I avoid using notebooks; I resent the one notebook limitation.
There's also futher limitations in the search feature.

I use notebooks for the sync/local, online/offline, shared/private feature

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Hi.  There have been occasional queries about note sizes and notebook limits,  but there has never seemed to be an overwhelming need from a substantial number of users for Evernote to increase those limits.  You could certainly propose this as a feature request and see how many votes you can acquire from other users to get the company to look at it again.  There are obvious cost factors in both - bigger note and clip sizes means more storage,  more sync time and/ or more bandwidth;  increasing the 250 notebook limit means at the very least coding costs to change the setup in all the various clients and operating systems.

Meantime there are easy workarounds for most of the above - including new accounts,  and new notebook ranges are freely available if and when required - or notebooks can simply be represented by tags (of which you have 100,000).

If there were to be changes I can't see them happening soon - all this requires a lot of work and testing,  and Evernote don't (usually) comment on what they're up to prior to release dates...

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3 hours ago, jefito said:

If you only use one tag per note (a policy you'd need to enforce on yourself), that's pretty much equivalent to navigating the notebook tree.

True, but that would be one more thing to have to remember, wouldn't it? 

I surmise whoever decided to include it in the program had that in mind.

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It is unlikely that Evernote will step in with an explanation. The question has been posed many times in this forum.

 

My observation is that many people starting up with Evernote create a lot of notebooks (with just a few tags). That is what I did when I started 7 years ago. And several other users have mentioned they did the same when they started.  I realized the power of using very specific tags vs. very specific notebooks. I changed my perspective toward general broad-based notebooks (job, home, leisure, bills, misc) instead.

 

Evernote strongly believes in the power of tags.  Their program as you noticed seems to reflect their belief.

  • Tags are almost unlimited - Evernote set the limit at 100,000 tags.
  • Notes can have multiple tags - but a note can only belong to single notebook
  • Tags can be nested for easy grouping or organization - difficult with lots of notebooks
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Well, I tell you that so far, I'm liking One-Note.  I set up the evernote stacks as notebooks, the notebooks as sections and the sections as pages, etc.  What I'm liking so far about One Note is that I'm not forced to sort the Order in the limited ways Evernote forces.  I can move sections and notes to any order I want.  That's huge for me.  I will report further findings as I go along. 

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For some perspective on this by an Evernote employee: 

 

 

I seem to recall another post by an Evernote employee that suggested that the notebook limit might be lifted, but couldn't find it. No timeframe on any of this.

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4 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I use notebooks for the sync/local, online/offline, shared/private feature

Ah, that makes sense.  I wonder if that creates literal file separation in the program, I guess I could take a look around later.

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I agree that limiting the folders of premium users to the same number, 250, as those who have free accounts, is ridiculous. It is the only major feature that does not upgrade for paying customers. Paying $70/year should allow an increase to at least 500, if not 1000.

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On 3/3/2018 at 5:14 PM, from92714 said:

I'd really like to be able to have more than 250 notebooks too.
In my case, I upgraded my account to Business and started using and moved notes there since it has higher limit for things except the note size. So I'd also like to see note size limits go a little higher too.

 

On 2/28/2018 at 7:40 PM, Etonreve said:

I reached the 250 notebook limit. What should I do now? I often use tags, but they are not a substitute for notebooks.

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/1/2018 at 4:14 PM, wahlink@hotmail.com said:

I totally agree with those who feel that 250 is too small for a Premium paid account. I have a small university research lab and its very important to create folders based on different levels of access. I have used Evernote Premium for as long as I can remember an now that I'm up against that 250 notebook limit it is severely impacting teh way we share information. Tags are confusing and not an option especially since it doesn't lend itself to different levels of access. MS Onenote has no such limits and unfortunately if I can't add more notebooks I will have to switch over to that until evernote management addresses this. Kind of sad that the Evernote Premium account has become a second class citizen and offers less value than free Onenote

 

One option (albeit at a cost) for people who hit the 250 notebook limit is to upgrade to Evernote business. Business accounts can have up to 10,000 notebooks, if I'm not mistaken. I can certainly understand why the price might rub you the wrong way when OneNote can handle more than 250 notebooks and is free (at least for now), but it is an option.

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26 minutes ago, Roman Luks said:

I have just reached the 250 limit! I also pay for Evernote and this makes me really angry.

You can vote here on the above link.

I can understand people using a lot of notebooks although I don't. But what I don't get the "This makes me really angry" part. The 250 limit was not hidden or unknown. It has been known for a long time. 

So I decide to buy a car and there is a speed limiter on it at 150 mph. They tell me about it, I still buy it and when I try to go 155 mph, I get really mad and I say I paid for it! It does not make sense.

I would agree 100% if this was being misrepresented or Evernote was trying to not make the information accessible to everyone. But again, it has been a known limitation for a while. 

Again, vote for it, voice your opinion why there should be more than 250 and listen to others why they think 250 is more than sufficient, debate, listen, debate and listen....then come up with a solution until (if) the limit is raised.

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@gazumped, sorry but I really hate the argument, their game, their rules, by that logic, why have any user feedback at all. I also would bet that at this point it is simply bureaucracy and arbitrary limitation that create the limitation and not "because they looked at it", apparently they moved it from 100 - 250, so they could have moved it to any number, they just chose not to because they want people to use tags. They probably have not looked at it because they don't think it effects enough people, but I think most people use notebooks, and eventually when they have been using Evernote long enough will run into the same issue.

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12 hours ago, sanj said:

limiting the folders

Do they have to be called "folders" or can we accept a different naming convention?

Evernotes primary organization method is Tags (limit 100,000) and also uses Notebooks (limit 250)

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The 250 notebook limit has been a standard for years,  on both paid and free account levels.  There need to be some limits on account size,  as there are for uploads each month,  note size,  and total tags.  Two ways around the limit are - as discussed above;  use tags,  and/ or Local Notebooks which (I don't believe) count toward the total used.  It's also possible to upgrade to a (more expensive) Business account to by more space,  or to archive older existing notebooks to ENEX files or additional free Basic accounts.

I think there's a votable thread somewhere in feature requests asking that Evernote increase this limit,  which AFAIK is completely arbitrary - someone in history just chose a reasonable-sounding number.  Sadly I don't have the link to that post.

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23 hours ago, Paul A. said:

One option (albeit at a cost) for people who hit the 250 notebook limit is to upgrade to Evernote business.

I did suggest that; but it was with tongue in cheek.  edit:  I consider the price to high just for the increase in Notebook limit.

Wihout paying for a Business Account

The fact is, if users wish to continue using Evernote; they must adjust their method of processing
250 notebooks is a hard limit (for now).

When a user posts they organize notes using folders/subfolders, they get the same advice

Evernote has a workable solution for handling both issues

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Well,  user feedback is because once in a blue moon us users come up with a really good idea that didn't occur to the Devs because they're locked in a cage somewhere trying to invent a useful app without having the real world experience of using it for boring repetitive tasks in lots of different situations. 

 

Plus it's complicated app,  and (example only here) when they changed the screen shade to 'lighter',  someone didn't realise that an obscure key combination would then launch GTW.  Once one of us hits the combination,  they can find the code and change it. 

 

Folks on the forums here come up with hundreds of different schemes for colours / tagging / additional features / pricing,  and I'd be surprised if more than 1 or 2% of them actually see the light of day. 

 

Evernote get to choose which,  based only slightly on the forum feedback - they'll do surveys,  blind trials,  internal tests,  risk evaluations and about 100 other things that they don't have the time or the inclination to detail back to the user-base.  They'll make a commercial decision and see what feedback they get.

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1 hour ago, jasecutler said:

What's the actual reason why EN refuse to increase the limit (Notepads + Notes)? 

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Is it an option EN are open to explore?

 
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This is a user forum. It is unlikely Evernote will address your question. It has been asked several times over the years.

My guess is the 250 limit for notebooks is partially designed to keep Evernote customers focused on using a critical part of Evernote. That is the ability to use up to  10,000 tags on notes stored in a variety of notebooks.

There are plenty of programs that offer the ability to create thousands of notebooks (aka folders). 

Evernote created an alternative method to address data control and retrieval. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Don Dz said:

File A and File B, vs the single large file, not that it really matters all that much.

What are files? Notes? Notebooks? Attachments? Evernote has only Notes, Notebooks, Stacks and tags. Are you talking about items displayed in the Evernote UI or the note storage database on disk? That latter shouldn't matter to users On Windows, it's mainly a single large file).

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56 minutes ago, jefito said:

What are files? Notes? Notebooks? Attachments? Evernote has only Notes, Notebooks, Stacks and tags. Are you talking about items displayed in the Evernote UI or the note storage database on disk? That latter shouldn't matter to users On Windows, it's mainly a single large file).

Now I am the one who is not sure what that even means.

In the context of what DTLow was asking me and what I responded at least.

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On 6/27/2017 at 4:28 PM, EdH said:

The price? :D

LOL. Actually, I think it was the note size... (which if I recall, happened around the same time)

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5 hours ago, jasecutler said:

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Is it an option EN are open to explore?

From past experience

  • Evernote increased the notebook limit from 100 to 250.
  • They also added a Business Account tier, with a limit of 100,000 notebooks.

>>What's the actual reason why EN refuse to increase the limit (Notepads + Notes)? 

The note limit could be resource based; our devices tend to choke at high volumes.

The notebook limit is an arbitrary number.  
The Evernote focus has always been on note retrieval instead of organization. This is tag based instead of folder based,

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Hi All, its 2018 and i been reading this thread for the last few days from it inception listed date of 2015.

I have just hit my limit of 250 notebooks, im a plus user. Is there a way of increasing the number notebooks now?

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1 hour ago, Don Dz said:

I wonder if that creates literal file separation in the program, I guess I could take a look around later.

afaik   There's no literal file separation, and I'm looking at the actual database.
All notes are stored alongside each other in the database file/folder.
The notebook/tag assignment is simply an entry in the note metadata

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1 hour ago, Don Dz said:

I wonder if that creates literal file separation in the program, I guess I could take a look around later.

Notebooks/stacks are good for creating separation for searches.  Probably more a logical thing than a literal or physical thing.

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Hey Evernote and Evernote Users,

 

So, pretty straight forward request.

Make Evernote have the capability to synchronize more than 250 notebooks.

Personally I would be willing to pay more.

Questions that come to mind:

1) How many more notebooks would you want Evernote have the capability to synchronize? Me: Random number out of the blue... 500.

2) How much more would you be willing to pay for this extra service/feature? I am not an expert in technology... but just a random number out of the blue.... $10/100 extra notebooks.

 

Thanks for your time reading this.

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4 hours ago, rezecib said:

I'm not actually sure why it's limited to 250 notebooks-- given that tags are limited to 10k and content uploads, note sizes, and note counts are also limited, it seems a bit superfluous to me. I'm looking into it a bit to see if I can get a better explanation.

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Asked around, there were historical reasons to have a limit at 250, having to do with client UI and such. Those reasons have since been solved. It's still not as simple as changing a number, but it's easy enough now that it could happen. I don't think there are any plans to do it but I personally would like to see it.

New EN employee is about to become the most quoted person on this forum by walking right into the forum's notebook limit maelstrom.  :D

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4 hours ago, rezecib said:

I'm not actually sure why it's limited to 250 notebooks-- given that tags are limited to 10k and content uploads, note sizes, and note counts are also limited, it seems a bit superfluous to me. I'm looking into it a bit to see if I can get a better explanation.

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Asked around, there were historical reasons to have a limit at 250, having to do with client UI and such. Those reasons have since been solved. It's still not as simple as changing a number, but it's easy enough now that it could happen. I don't think there are any plans to do it but I personally would like to see it.

Wow. This is a big change from the last decade. I don't remember when anyone ever tried to explain why it is 250, said that it's possible to change it, and even wanted to see it happen. It'd be nice to see more of this candor :)

But, we actually have a lot of limits in place. It's a bit outdated (for reasons mentioned in the post), but I once tried to figure it all out.

http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=169

As you can see there, the limit for tags (as far as I know -- untested by me) is 100,000 per account. While we're at it, in addition to the 250 notebook limit, I'd also recommend bumping up the maximum note size limit and note count limit. Those would be some really nice changes.

Back to the topic at hand, though, personally I've never found the notebook limit to be any problem at all, because I find I can easily stay organized without using more than a handful. This isn't to say that the 250 limit shouldn't be changed -- there are lots of different workflows, and the more flexibility Evernote incorporates the better. However, it is possible to manage tens of thousands of notes in a single notebook (or a handful to make offline notebooks on iOS more manageable). 

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4 hours ago, jasecutler said:

What's the actual reason why EN refuse to increase the limit (Notepads + Notes)? 

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Is it an option EN are open to explore?

It's just an arbitrary number, but if you think about it, you might see that there's an actual practical aspect to this limit. The only way that you have to organize those 250 notebooks is via stacks; there's no notebook nesting at present. So with 250 notebooks, you have 5 stacks of 50 notebooks? 50 stacks of 5 notebooks? Or (the balance point) 15 stacks of ~15 notebooks? These are barely palatable options, in my opinion, with respect to physical (on screen, i.e.) organization/searching, not to mention how it all plays out on screen-size limited mobile devices.. Increase to 500? 23 stacks of 23 notebooks? 1000 notebooks? 32 stacks of 32 notebooks? Now I'm not saying that all users would fall prey to this (I can imagine a user who has a small number of active notebooks and a large number of archived notebooks, leading to two stacks, one manageable, and one ungainly. But just something to think about, given that the original reason for adding stacks was to make management of the (then) limit of 100 notebooks easier...

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On 9/28/2018 at 11:22 AM, jefito said:

It's good to know that you think you've found "the one" (usually takes more than a day to find out if a tool is long-term livable or not), and I hope that it works out for you, but  I don't think it's a good idea to post a full length review in these forums (it that's your intention). Evernote knows that OneNote is out there as an alternative, and some tolerance for discussing it is obviously allowed, but in the past they've frowned on more full discussions on why an Evernote user might want to switch to a competitor. That policy may have changed, but it does feel a little bit impolite to me.

In hindsight you're right -  that this would not be the proper forum. 

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Funny how things go.  I all but converted over to One Note and then saw the thread about Evernote increasing number of notebooks to 1,000 which is great.  Im wondering if anyone knows whether there are limits on the number of STACKS you can create?   I'm torn between the two products.  It's a factor for me and I can't find anything on the subject. 

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20 minutes ago, michaelzapun said:

Im wondering if anyone knows whether there are limits on the number of STACKS you can create?

afaik  There's no limit on the number of Stacks.
It's not stored as an actual entity; just a comment on the notebook record.
There might be a problem in the UI display if you create too many.  You could test this out and report back.  I'd take on the challenge but I only have 8 notebooks to work with 

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I just bumped into the 250 limit after having been on the free edition since 2012.  A couple of months ago I committed to to the upgrade and to integrate more fully into my business along with OneNote.  I waited looking for pitfalls but hit this one after I upgraded.  The tag approach is too sloppy of an organizational form for me.  I like the tree form.  I like EverNote for clipping so I suspect I'll use it for clipping and maybe export to OneNote.  

I tend to agree with the gentleman that costs and user demand are not strong enough.  I like the Wall Street Journal clipping and that is a big driver but in reality I don' t see this is a must have tool unless further development at a quicker pace takes place.  There are a lot of tools companies looking to get a critical mass then sell for a big payout.  Look in the task management space.  You generally need multiple tools to get what you want.  Most are not worth the premium features so you use two free versions to get what you want and that works until they close down or get bought and jack up the price higher than the functional value is worth.  Maybe EN is different since it has been around for awhile.  

I deviated from the topic but the 250 limit is really taxing and I'm not sure I can make this fit how I use it.  I do a lot of research in stock analysis and create folders for each company, sector, economy etc.  

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4 hours ago, DjBea said:

Please start to listen your customers...

You're posting in a User discussion forum.  You and I are both users of this product.

While I'm sure Evernote "listens" to their customers, these are the limits we have to work with (until changed)

Have you heard the story about Henry Ford's customers telling him they wanted faster horses

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21 minutes ago, GrumpyMonkey said:

I'd also recommend bumping up the maximum note size limit and note count limit. Those would be some really nice changes.

The notebook/tag limit seem to be artificial; I'm interested in reading an explanation.

However, I can see the note size/count limits are based on real technical concerns.  There are request  posts for this but its not a high priority for me.

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I also would bet that at this point it is simply bureaucracy and arbitrary limitation that create the limitation and not "because they looked at it", apparently they moved it from 100 - 250, so they could have moved it to any number, they just chose not to because they want people to use tags. They probably have not looked at it because they don't think it effects enough people, but I think most people use notebooks, and eventually when they have been using Evernote long enough will run into the same issue.

 

This is a whoooooole lotta assuming. I vaguely remember at some point perhaps some staff member mentioned a reason why there's a limit, and IIRC (which I very well may NOT, so please don't take it as fact) it has something to do with the way the database works. Something like, they're stored in notebooks but tags just connect them, so notebooks are heftier to deal with in the backend while tags are easy and light. At least, that's how I remember it vaguely going.

 

You don't know that it's bureaucracy, arbitrary, that they didn't look at it, or that they could move it to any number. What we do know, however, is that Evernote has what, 100,000,000 ish users, and while people do grumble about the notebook limit, it's obviously not a show-stopper for most. Sure, most people use notebooks to some extent (everyone has to use at least one, after all), but I don't believe the numbers agree with the assessment that most use 250 notebooks.

 

I've been using Evernote for 5 years (soon to be 6) and I've never hit the limit. I started using Evernote with notebooks and soon realized I had too many items I wanted in two notebooks, so off to tags I went and I haven't looked back.

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48 minutes ago, DTLow said:

The notebook/tag limit seem to be artificial; I'm interested in reading an explanation.

However, I can see the note size/count limits are based on real technical concerns.  There are request  posts for this but its not a high priority for me.

I have no idea what is a real technical concern or not, but the note size limits are a daily problem for me. I can work around them by splitting up PDFs, but that is definitely not ideal. As for the number of notes, after a decade of producing many, many notes every day, I'm well past the 100,000 mark. It's a bit of a pain. Several times I have had to move everything out of my account. We'll see what happens in the future. The old suggestion from Evernote staff was to just create a new account, but with device limits and so forth, this is not a viable option anymore (if it really ever was).

As mentioned in my post, Evernote says it is unlimited, but that is not true. The limits on note size and count ensure that you can't actually have too much data in Evernote. Granted, this isn't a concern for everyone, but it is for some of us, so a solution (perhaps the ability to better integrate multiple accounts) would be appreciated. Priorities, of course, differ from person to person. Personally, I wouldn't even notice if reminders disappeared tomorrow, except to note that the interface got a little bit better -- I'm not recommending Evernote ditch reminders, but they have never been a priority feature for me (see discussions a few years back when it was implemented for more).

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14 minutes ago, michaelzapun said:

Im wondering if anyone knows whether there are limits on the number of STACKS you can create?

Currently (based on the Evernote SDK), a stack only exists as a field in a notebook; that is, every Evernote notebook has a stack name field, which may be empty. There is no separate list of stacks. When it comes time to display your notebook collection, all notes that have the same stack name are grouped together under that stack name, and those that have an empty stack name are listed separately. So to answer the question -- so long as the SDK reflects the actual underlying reality -- then the max number of stacks is the same as the max number of notebooks, or 1000 currently, since each stack can contain a minimum of 1 notebook (and you'd never do this).

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20 hours ago, Shane D. said:

Hi All,

I'm very excited to announce that we have officially increased the Notebook limit from 250 to 1,000 for all paid tiers.

You can see those new limits here:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/articles/209005247

We will likely lock this thread soon so if you have any thoughts/questions feel free to reach out to me directly if you're unable to share those here in time!

Shane:

That's terrific news.

THANK YOU.

 

 

 

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55 minutes ago, michaelzapun said:

Funny how things go.  I all but converted over to One Note and then saw the thread about Evernote increasing number of notebooks to 1,000 which is great.  Im wondering if anyone knows whether there are limits on the number of STACKS you can create?   I'm torn between the two products.  It's a factor for me and I can't find anything on the subject. 

You have my sympathy. I'm glad that Evernote increased the number before I invested that kind of time into moving to another app. I think there is a limit to the number of stacks, but  can't tell you with certainty.

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On 5/16/2018 at 10:42 AM, Rey San Pascual said:

 

I don't see anyone arguing that that Evernote isn't usable with the 250 notebook limit. I do see people requesting that Evernote's usability be enhanced by increasing the notebook limit.

 

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I for one never argued that Evernote wasn't usable after having reached my 250 notebook limit, only that it was much, much easier, efficient, and more natural for me to use notebooks instead of tags. Time permitting, I use both a notebook and tags. But if I'm rushed it's easier simply to assign the note to a notebook. And there are many occasions when it was not possible to add tags because of the form of web clipper I was using.

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6 hours ago, k8sc said:

As a Premium user for sometime I am continually frustrated by the limit on 250 folders and perplexed why this should be such a hinderance when I have ample overall storage space in my plan. 

The Notebook limit is an arbitrary number set by Evernote; they may change the limit some day

From the very start Evernote established a preference for organization by Tags.  You should look at this feature; benefits include

  • icreased limit to 100,000
  • multiple tags per notes
  • unlimited hierarchy
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Dear gazumped, thanks for your reply! Of course my wishes involve costs. Ik like Evernote but know quite a few people who go to OneNote (without all these restrictions!), Maybe investing. The price for EN Premium versus the free OneNote, or the unlimited version of the Office bundle, does Evernote still need to take to satisfy a certain type of users with higher demands?

Now a question: what is the use of a "stand-alone" user to EN Business? Or is it more useful to take a second Premium account?

Finally, what do you mean exactly: and new notebook ranges are freely available if and when required

Thanks in advance and sorry for broken English at Google Translate;)

Like the EN Web Clipper! Making a screenshot from whitin OneNote is also great, but not with the ON Web Clipper. Colors, pics and text looks 'washed out'. Really a pitty that the EN CLipper allows 'only' 200 MB for clipping. On sites like Quora arranged inadequately ... and that for a information gathering-tool (with, in comparison to the unlimited OneNote a 'high' price) ...

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@GrumpyMonkey DTLow is correct, note size/count limits are real technical concerns. Notebooks are different because, given that note size and count is constrained, notebooks are just some number of buckets in which to put them; it's not that much overhead to have more. But given that the notes need to be stored, and their entire edit history, and indexed so that they can be searched, and synced between devices, etc... it adds up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe at some point there was a brief test of no limits (this was mentioned to me when investigating notebook limits), and this caused some problems where very large attachments were being added to notes.

At some point we have to decide what's worth working on, and if it's something that's affecting very few users it's hard to give it priority. My understanding is that aside from the upload and device limits, most of the limits were designed to affect extremely few users and mainly constrain extreme cases (e.g. regularly attaching huge files, having automated dumping of large amounts of data into our service, etc) that could cause problems for us.

Not sure what kind of PDFs you're dealing with, but Premium allows for 200 MB notes, which seems pretty generous to me. PDFs much larger than that are pretty unwieldy, and I've only encountered ones that large that are entire textbooks.

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