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(Archived) Suggestion re Tags - collapse


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I have no takers on this question, so I suppose the answer is "no can do". Therefore, I'll make it a suggestion.

I have created many parent tags, some with two degrees of lineage. On the desktop they collapse and expand as needed. But on the Touch they do none of that. This necessitates a lot of thumb scrolling to do any advanced search using tags. This is quickly leading to a strategy of using tag filtering only when absolutely necessary, thus rendering the tags virtually useless. That minimalist use of EN would be avoided entirely were the tag hierarchy to mimic what happens on the desktop. On the other hand, I might not fully understand the system.

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This is nothing urgent. But I am wondering whether EN is considering doing something along these lines or, if, instead, the idea is a non-starter for certain reasons. The more that I use tags - which work great BTW - the more that I long for being to collapse and expand them on the handheld so that I can avoid scrolling and scrolling and scrolling ....

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If this is an iTouch-specific issue, then you should probably be posting in the correct forum: http://forum.evernote.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=45. That being said, it will be read by Evernote staff regardless of where it's posted, but posting in the correct forum makes it easier for iTouch users to find, in case others want to comment.

~Jeff

I posted my question in January, 2010 in the correct forum, namely the one devoted to iPhone, iPad, and Touch. I received no response. That is why I posted it as a suggestion in this forum, as the first sentence of my posting explains.

"If this is an iTouch-specific issue ..." How would I know?

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According to your post of 1/13/2010 in this forum, you already seemed to realize that at least one desktop client operates in the way you want, whereas the Touch client does not. Despite the fact that you never got a reply from Evernote, it's not clear to me how that makes this a topic for general discussion about Evernote (whether question or suggestion). I wouldn't worry about not having gotten Evernote feedback, they do read them all, I'm sure; they just don't answer them all, and I'd doubt it's anything related to reasonableness or validity of your issue. I'm guessing that Evernote probably has something like that capability in mind for all clients, but they're not on the same timetable for rollout -- it all depends on the usual stuff: priorities and resources.

~Jeff

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On the Touch my tag list has become useless because of all the scrolling that it takes to get through all the tags - because the only view provided in the fully expanded view. This means that the only way to search is to do a word search. This means that when I create a note on the desktop and tag it using the tags that are in the extraordinarily useful tag hierarchy I THEN have to type keywords, into the text of the note because if I do not do so then the search on the Touch will not find it.

Example:

On the desktop, I clip to EN a ravioli recipe. After syncing the desktop, I go to the note and tag it with the tags (from the hierarchy) "pasta" "recipes" "ravioli". The problem is that the text of the recipe does not contain the word "pasta". I sync the desktop to EN. I then sync the Touch. Now, on the Touch I want to see all my pasta recipes. I have two ways to search. (a) One way is to ruin my thumbs by scrolling through every tag all the way down "p". When I finally get to the tag "pasta" I will see all the pasta recipes including the one for ravioli, this is a good result but for my thumbs. (B) The other way to search on the Touch is to word search for "pasta". This will not find that ravioli recipe because that recipe does not contain the word "pasta". So, when I created the note in the first place, I should have read the recipe to see whether it contains all the words that come to mind that I might want at some unforeseeable time in the future base a word search on rather than scrolling though my tags. If the tag hierarchy would collapse/expand, then method (a) would work without my having to sacrifice my thumbs. But, as the system stands currently, I need to perform double tagging (using the actual tags, and then typing the names of the tags into the note's text for searches on the Touch).

It is very possible that I am overlooking something because I cannot possibly be the only user who cannot avoid this problem. That is why I posted this topic twice, hoping that someone would tell me what I am overlooking.

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