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Control Which Image Shown in a Note's Thumbnail/Snippet View


marcelo

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So I guess that the main takeaway here is that this forum is entirely redundant because a simple request which has been heavily backed by hundreds of people on this thread alone, has been completely ignored for 9 YEARS! I look forward to the competition sending a complacent company such as this out of business by delivering a product which is actually based on what the customers are asking for. Time to move on folks.

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This would be a key feature for my notes. Note size is totally random. At least have it use the last added image?

I had great hopes for your new update. Alas! Your PM needs to look at these numbers....

Please please! I'll do the UX too :)

Laurent

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I vote for image selection to be possible. I use this for so many things and not being able to select the image I want as a thumbnail is very counterproductive to what I use the app for. I've been a long standing user of this app and have paid for it for many years. So if what's needed is a vote, then I vote Evernote implements the choice to select your thumbnail for your note. I can't find a reasonable explanation why this isn't already an option on an almost 10 year old app/service. 

Thank you kindly

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Woohoo - a new Evernote!

Lets move everything on the screen around while ensuring you still can't select your thumbnail.

Come on Evernote.  This is ridiculous!

2021 will be the ten year anniversary for this request!

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1 hour ago, highchairdrama said:

Yikes, I used to be able to solve this by deleting all the irrelevant images in a note until I got one I liked - but now THAT doesn't even work anymore! Now this most recent "update" is apparently caching the original image it deemed thumbnail-worthy so I can't change it no matter what. After 8 years of struggling with thumbnail images I am at my wit's end!!!!

 

Yeah, I noticed that too so I went back to the previous version v6.25.1.9091 and got that feature back. The new version (V10) screwed a lot of things up and wasn't worth the update imo...

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+1 to this. As an artist and graphical user I would love to be able to change the avatar image of a note. Currently seeing a image of a picture from a article with some of my notes just looks silly... Would definitely give more structure and beauty if we are able to change the pictures. 

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Seriously this STILL isn't a feature? I use Evernote for keeping track of visual projects and the ability to select a thumbnail is a necessity. So much time has been wasted trying to locate a given project because the thumbnail defaults to a draft sketch or an armature which is nearly unidentifiable compared to the finished project. Puuuuhleeeeaase fix this already!

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This is MAKING. ME. NUTS! C'mon! Ten years of this being requested and ... nothing?!

I used to be able to delete an image to force EN to change the thumbnail, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. I think someone once posted a workaround, but I can no longer find it.

For the love of all things holy, I've been a Premium user for almost a decade, I'm an EN evangelist in my circles. I'm not ready to switch platforms, but a few issues like this (encrypted notebook, anyone?) have me ripping my hair out!

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There is a rule about how EN picks the picture, depending on dimensions, something like "the picture with the largest dimension of the shorter side is used". So you can influence which picture is used by changing the pixel dimensions of the photos.

Maybe this helps you to find the forum post about it. I have read it, but I have no use for me for such a nitty-bitty approach just to get EN pick the picture I want to see. It would be nice to be able to pick one, but not by spending a lot of time with this workaround.

A click with the mouse should do.

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This rule and workaround has worked before v10.

With v10 EN seems do do so only while choosing the first picture to be added as thumbnail preview. At least on EN web v10 Version every try to change pictures didn‘t work in my case. There the  old picture even was displayed after deleting.

Havn‘t tried on desktop, because there I‘m still running legacy (with changed preview pictures...)

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What I don’t get: Which picture is the first when importing through iOS sharing ?

When I choose just one, it is the first and only. Because I can’t send another by sharing into that note.

If I select several and share, there seems to be no order. At least I don’t see it - usually I have to rearrange the pictures because they appear in a seemingly random sequence.

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Add another person to the list that would really like this feature and who is nonplussed that after 10 years of people requesting it it still hasn't been implemented. I've paid for the software for years and always wondered when this would finally come as it was on obvious deficiency.

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I have used evernote for many years now> I like the simplicity of creating a note but I wish the evernote team consider this request to allow how to choose which image will show. very annoying to have an image that does not represent the content of the note. 

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Yet another use here with the same old story - been using Evernote since 2009 (yikes I'm old), paid subscription since 2015. I have wanted the ability to chose the thumbnail since I put my first note in Evernote. If I'd known then that they didn't listen to their users I would have saved myself a lot of money and frustration in the intervening years by choosing a different programme. 

But like many, I know have a severe case of inertia, because I have so many notes and notebooks. I really don't want to leave Evernote. Ian Small gave me so much hope with his video updates, and admitting that Evernote was not nearly up to scratch. I cannot believe he hasn't addressed this. 

I really have no words to express my frustration and just... how depressed I am about this. I remember reading this or a similar thread on this topic years ago (I was in a different office so it must have been pre-2012). When I googled it today I was sure they would be implemented a solution and I just hadn't spotted it yet. Ridiculous 😔

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Seriously, how hard can it be to implement this feature? It's obviously a HUGE request from paying users, and has been for 10 years. I expect after 10 years even Microsoft would have fixed this one.

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Please give users control over which thumbnail image is seen for a note. It's a critical tool, especially for visual thinkers, in finding content. For instance, my initial use of Evernote was as a digital recipe box. When I scroll through my now large collection of recipes it's irritating that the Bon Appetit Smoky Carrot Dip recipe features a picture of Green Mountain Energy.

It reduces the efficiency of this tool to have to find work arounds for either saving a non-congruent image or searching for content more arduously. If I'm using it professionally to organize a production project, the thumbnail image becomes even more critical. I hope you will fix this urgent issue soon. 

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So I actually contacted support about this, and credit to the guy who answered me, he said he wanted this feature too! But he said he wasn’t aware of any plans to implement it. I asked for the feedback to be submitted up the chain, but clearly they don’t listen, so I’m sadly ready to move on. 
 

MS OneNote looks pretty good from my initial search. Anyone have any thoughts? I’m a Mac user if it makes a difference. Though I guess the people who’ve moved on and found a suitable competitor don’t hang out here anymore! 
 

I also looked for ian small’s email address. From his YouTube videos he seems like an approachable guy, and I wonder if he’s just not aware people desperately want this. But I couldn’t find it and I’ve spent enough of my life trying to improve someone else’s product that they charge me for.  

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I wonder how long it would take if all the polite paying users who have taken the effort to sign up to this community and post their request and have then been waiting for years with no fix, took instead to writing to Facebook, and Twitter, and Redit. I'm pretty sure this simple request has become a news worthy story. A text book case study in how to seriously annoy a dedicated user base.  I'm ready to guess that the fix would be distributed a day or so after the first negative press. 

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1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

@matej1990 Hi, just other users here.

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On 3/17/2021 at 6:12 PM, Rowan P. said:

I wonder how long it would take if all the polite paying users who have taken the effort to sign up to this community and post their request and have then been waiting for years with no fix, took instead to writing to Facebook, and Twitter, and Redit. I'm pretty sure this simple request has become a news worthy story. A text book case study in how to seriously annoy a dedicated user base.  I'm ready to guess that the fix would be distributed a day or so after the first negative press. 

As best I can gather, Evernote has over the past year or two, redone their entire product from scratch, starting from the back-end and working to the front end. Apparently their original back-end database and server setup was un-scaleable, and this ostensibly also obliged them to rewrite the front-end (user interface) as well. It would seem that these were viewed as critical, existential issues by the Evernote people (presumably they needed to redo the whole thing or their shaky product would crumble).

Whatever your opinion of what they did and what they've come out with since, it would appear that they have been too busy "(re)doing their own thing" from scratch, to attend to fine-tuning type end-user requests such as our wanting to control what images show in thumbnails / snippet view.

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10 minutes ago, MCShults said:

Whatever your opinion of what they did and what they've come out with since, it would appear that they have been too busy "(re)doing their own thing" from scratch, to attend to fine-tuning type end-user requests such as our wanting to control what images show in thumbnails / snippet view.

If they were starting again from scratch, all the more reason to incorporate such a glaring oversight from their original product. The one and only excuse for not implementing this feature before now is that they made a mess of the coding originally - no such excuse when you are starting from a clean slate.

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53 minutes ago, johnortt said:

If they were starting again from scratch, all the more reason to incorporate such a glaring oversight from their original product. The one and only excuse for not implementing this feature before now is that they made a mess of the coding originally - no such excuse when you are starting from a clean slate.

You make a good point, and I have no portfolio as an Evernote apologist, but it seems to me they took a step backward with the product, and are just now starting to get close to catching up with where they were before. I'm not holding my breath exactly, but it's arguably possible that they might actually get to the point, in another update or two, of taking positive steps forward; e.g. by implementing desirable features such as allowing users to control what images show in thumbnails in the snippet view.

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Come On EVERNOTE!

this issue with the thumbnails is now almost a DECADE old!!!!!!!

Not only can I NOT select a specific thumbnail for my pictures, but after your most recent software update, a random selection of my thumbnails are rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise!!!!!!!

So now I have the WRONG thumbnail rotated sideways!

Plus, if I add a photograph to a note, then DELETE that photograph,  Evernote, STILL keeps the DELETED photograph (usually rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise) as the thumbnail!  I literally have to delete the entire note and start over or just learn to live with it..

I use Evernote to sort photographs and add notes to give me their contexts later when I come back to them.

This issue with the completely messed up thumbnails is about to make me loose my religion and cause Evernote to lose a customer.

This is inexcusable after a DECADE!

Please, please, please fix this!

This should be relatively easy:  right click on the photograph inside the note, one of the options should be "Set as Thumbnail" (I don't need more than one thumbnail!)

The Thumbnail being rotated 90 degrees is all on Evernote and should be fixed without me needing to fix it myself.  After all the picture in the note is oriented correctly, there is no good reason for the thumbnail to be sideways.

josh

 

 

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Has this been implemented yet??  This request is 9 years old.  I seriously don't know why I'm still paying a yearly fee for an app that doesn't even try to do the super simple things to improve their product.

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Hello,

I really want to see notes have the option to change or control which thumbnail is being used for a note when viewing the pages of a notebook in the "cards" or "snippets" view modes.

Evernote should add the ability to right click on an image within a note and select "use this image as note thumbnail". They could even add the capability to the menu under the Annotate this Image application window. 

Thanks, 
Ryan

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I find it absolutely incredible that such a seemingly simple function still has not been implemented! And now that I find this thread, I'm even more incredulous that this is an ancient (by Internet standards) ask.

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This seems like a big miss for Evernote and I always thought they'd address it soon but years have passed...and...no.  So I'm going to add to this discussion in an effort to convince them to do it.  You can change the title, the category, but not the thumbnail?

Here is why this would be useful to me.  I take photos of plants for my gardening project.  I'd like a photo of the plant in the thumbnail.  However, usually, when I plant something, I take a picture of the tag that describes the plant and how to take care of it.  Later, I crop them to only the information I need.  Evernote saves an uncropped version of a seemingly random photo I take of the plant tag.  Often this is the instructions on how to take care of the plant which look the same from plant to plant. So if I have 5 different camellias I've planted, I have to look closely at the title to differentiate them.  I'd rather see a thumbnail of the flower color which would be more visually helpful.

Not allowing control of the thumbnail really takes away from the benefit of taking photo based notes.

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haven't read everything, it would help a lot if it is THE FIRST PICTURE I ADDED. 

But using the biggest picture is such a brainfart m(

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I've used Evernote since 2010 and it has always been my most wanted feature.

At this point, I just think it's never going to happen. It would make my life so much easier though.

Please Evernote, what's going on ?

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Maybe we are in a giant experiment - which long running feature request will collect the most votes before dying of old age 🙂

Can’t vote it up again, have done so long ago.

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I have a Suppliers notebook. It would be great if the thumbnail could be the supplier logo. But this is impossible. 

 

Some notes show no thumbnail. If you copy from a previous note, it will keep the old thumbnail.  It is basically a mess. You have to be luck that a good thumbnail will be picked.

 

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Em 30/06/2011 at 22:51, marcelo disse:

I do like the new layout with larger thumbnails, except for one thing: Evernote seems to choose as thumbnail the largest image within a note. But it is rather annoying, for it seldom coincides with the image which would enable me to recognize a note at once. Can I somehow force Evernote to use a specific image as thumbail?

Marcelo

Perhaps in another 10 years?

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Perhaps, but I would not count on it.

There was a recipe buried somewhere in the forum about how EN picks the picture for the thumbnail. It has to do with the dimensions of the picture. It is probably not for the day to day use, but in cases when this seems important it is possible to modify the pictures to decide which picture will show.

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4 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

There was a recipe buried somewhere in the forum about how EN picks the picture for the thumbnail. It has to do with the dimensions of the picture. It is probably not for the day to day use, but in cases when this seems important it is possible to modify the pictures to decide which picture will show.

AFAIK this is history and has changed to v10.

Control via hidden algorithms depending on size and modified pictures was an option with pre v10 legacy versions.

since/for  EN v10 this is no longer possible. Here thumbnails which are accidentally chosen by algorithm can‘t be changed.

This is why we need an easy accessible option for control with V10…

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Thanks for the update.

In fact we wanted thumbnail source selection already pre v10 - seems the only available option now is to put exactly the one picture / pdf file into the note on creation, then sync it, then wait for the picture to be chosen as thumbnail. AFAIK the thumbnail will stick, even when later other pictures are added.

No, this is no proposal, not even a weak workaround, since doing so is a permanent PITA. But it seems the only way to influence thumbnail creation.

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35 minutes ago, HeBoIz said:

AFAIK this is history and has changed to v10.

Control via hidden algorithms depending on size and modified pictures was an option with pre v10 legacy versions.

since/for  EN v10 this is no longer possible. Here thumbnails which are accidentally chosen by algorithm can‘t be changed.

This is why we need an easy accessible option for control with V10…

... yeah, what He(Bolz) said!
There's no control whatsoever anymore as far as I can tell.

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3 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Thanks for the update.

In fact we wanted thumbnail source selection already pre v10 - seems the only available option now is to put exactly the one picture / pdf file into the note on creation, then sync it, then wait for the picture to be chosen as thumbnail. AFAIK the thumbnail will stick, even when later other pictures are added.

No, this is no proposal, not even a weak workaround, since doing so is a permanent PITA. But it seems the only way to influence thumbnail creation.

Alas, it doesn't always "stick"...
I've seen mine change to something unwanted. 
The logic of changing it back eludes me thus far.

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And in some cases the thumbnail sticks, even when the source was removed from the note.

As I said, I did not propose this as a real workaround.

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Something I learned yesterday. I was duplicating a note that had a small logo on it.

On the new note (the duplicate) I was removing the logo and replacing it with a different image. But the thumbnail will not refresh. It will continue with the old thumbnail no matter what you do.

In order to get the image to show, you need to create a new note from scratch OR remove any pictures from a note that you will duplicate.

The first picture you add apparently will be the thumbnail.

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43 minutes ago, Eduardo Estefano said:

But the thumbnail will not refresh

I have some notes that show a thumbnail but there is no pictures in the note. It is generally clipped from an email with photo attachments. But the note does not show the image but the thumbnail shows it. Weird bug.

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On 3/2/2021 at 9:27 PM, ihatedisplaynames said:

 

I also looked for ian small’s email address. From his YouTube videos he seems like an approachable guy, and I wonder if he’s just not aware people desperately want this. 

No email address but @iansmall is his Twitter username.

 

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It's 2021 already, we all know that's not something so hard to code, just delete this hard to understand algorithm and let users select in a drop-down menu, a option like "show as thumbnail", that would be so useful... 

Or something like "Edit note card" so we could customize the card freely as we want...

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On 6/4/2021 at 3:34 PM, TK0047 said:

I have some notes that show a thumbnail but there is no pictures in the note. It is generally clipped from an email with photo attachments. But the note does not show the image but the thumbnail shows it. Weird bug.

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Just as an idea: Pictures in e-mails are often not really there. They are embedded as a link to a web server, loaded from the source on opening. By this it reduces the traffic of the mail server (outgoing) and moves the load to the receiving device. Plus it adds the ability to tell an e-mail was opened, by just tracking the picture downloads. This is why I have disabled "automatically load pictures" in my mail client.

Maybe EN follows the embedded link and loads the picture in the background.

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On 12/11/2020 at 8:56 AM, HeBoIz said:

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This feature-gap is even more annoying with the new / 10.# EN web version:

If You delete the image which is automatically chosen and shown in the note's thumbnail/snippet view or even delete all pictures in the note and add a new proper one the new picture won't show up in the note's thumbnail/snippet view of the EN web version.

Instead of this the unwanted old thumbnail sticks with my note in the thumbnail/snippet view ...

seem's like meanwhile, at least with V. 10.15.6 web 253, it is possible to remove a stored thumbnail and to successfully add a new picture which can be "automatically" chosen as new thumbnail.

Still it is a decision of the EN-System, which image will be chosen, depending on a rather hidden algorithm or size and dimension logic.

As mentioned: Would be better, if this could be a user-decision...
(but anyway: at least one step better... 😉)

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16 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Just as an idea: Pictures in e-mails are often not really there. They are embedded as a link to a web server, loaded from the source on opening. By this it reduces the traffic of the mail server (outgoing) and moves the load to the receiving device. Plus it adds the ability to tell an e-mail was opened, by just tracking the picture downloads. This is why I have disabled "automatically load pictures" in my mail client.

Maybe EN follows the embedded link and loads the picture in the background.

Possibly, good point, but would be nice to have the same link or whatever so I can see those pictures. But in that case, that email had attachments as photos so when I clipped it I wanted it to clip with the photos otherwise the email was really useless.

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