Evernote for Mac 6.0.5 Released (App Store and Download)

[SoftwareMarcus 388]

We released Evernote for Mac 6.0.5 today.  This is a pretty big update from 6.0.3 and the primary goal is to fix issues.  A big reason some are seeing instability is because we rewrote a lot of the guts of the app to speed and improve reliability of sync and to build a modern foundation for better note editing.  We're working as quickly as we can to work through issues.  Our plan is to continue to focus on stability for the next few months.  6.0.5 has been released on both the Mac App Store and for download customers. 

 

Bug fixes and other improvements:

• Fix for note content not displaying or taking a long time to display (blank notes).  We think we've found every way this could occur but please let us know if you're still seeing it in this release.
• Performance fix where typing speed would get really slow.  This would only affect customers that have multiple accounts and switch between them.
• The top sync and crashing issues.

We have also brought back a few things that forum customers have requested:

• Local files can now be opened directly.  We originally removed it because of security concerns.  Now we pop up a security message first.
• Present using multiple-notes.

Some feature improvements:

• Export presentation as a PDF.
• Added the ability to link Gmail contacts in Work Chat.
• Added ability to block Work Chat contacts.

What happened to 6.0.4?

6.0.4 was supposed to be our Mac App Store release but we found an issue and pulled it and resubmitted 6.0.5.

 

You can download the new version from our website at https://evernote.com/download/ or if you're a direct download customer you can always go to Preferences > Software Update > Check for Updates Now.  

 

As always, let us know if you find any major issues in this release.

[beatybeaty 9]

I'm experiencing very slow typing (delay after I type a key from when it appears on the screen), moving the cursor around with arrow keys, and copying/pasting.  This only occurs within Evernote.  Evernote for Mac 6.0.5.

 

Can anything be done to fix this?  Pretty hard to type with this delay going on.

 

Please help!

 

Thanks.

[SoftwareMarcus 388]

Just catching up on the passionate discussion  .   I think there are great points made on both sides of the argument.  Let me just say that we are reading the discussion and we do appreciate and understand the points people are making.

 

I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that we're putting the finishing touches on Evernote Mac 6.0.6.  We've spent most of our time on fixing issues.  One of the issues mentioned was the fact that the search box pops off the toolbar when the window is really small and becomes unusable.  This is fixed in 6.0.6.  Quite honestly it wasn't on my original list of things to fix but the forum posts convinced me to switch the priority. We also spent a lot of time on search fixes which means we have to reindex everyone's notes.  As many of you remember this was a really CPU intensive operation and caused some perf issues. Because of this we spent a lot of time trying to reduce the impact of reindexing.  The tradeoff is that it will take longer to reindex all of your notes which means search may not fully work for a period of time.  

 

I've also seen a number of people running into a terrible perf issue where typing becomes incredibly slow.   This is another one of those issues where possibly 98% of our users don't see it but for those that do it's a terrible experience.  We think that reindexing might be part of the issue so our hope is that our reindexing fixes will help the perf issue too.  I know you'll tell us if it doesn't.

 

Thanks again for all of the passion around the product.  Please keep in mind that people who are happy rarely frequent the forums so even though a point of view or issue may appear to have 100% support it doesn't actually have 100% support.   I know many of you know this but I just like to mention it every now and then.  We try our best to balance the needs of the millions of customers here in the US and around the world who have varying design tastes, needs and goals.  Thank you for all your input.  We do read it.

[NoelK 5]

To have to explain to him that he has to turn on workchat... or explain some arbiatary e-mail process that I dont know about because he has turned off his work-chat would be incredibly frustrating...

Or you could simply do what we've all been doing since 2008 - email the note. Absolutely no need for the recipient to turn on workchat at all.

I'm not entirely sure Lycoz has been using Evernote longer than 6 months. Apparently making sure the entire team he is collaborating with has Work Chat turned on is an act of colossal heroism. And I speak as someone who has had to setup design standards for an entire engineering company for the switch to Autodesk Revit... Organising a team really isn't that difficult.

I have no problem with work chat, it's the front and centre, no-choice-of-on-or-off nature of it that irks me.

You just dont get it.

Again its fine...

The real professionals do get it.

I cant rehash the exact same things over and over...

Its a small button... Get over it...

Its there to stay.

Your annoyance at a little button is bewildering...

I wish the human race had more important things to argue about...

I am done here.

Ah, the argument of condescension? Yeah, sorry, no. You can claim my point of view is invalid because "I don't get it" all you like, but it isn't an argument.

If it was such a "little button", your earlier argument as to how it had such a big footprint are now invalid.

If you just "don't get it" that some people don't need Evernote to be collaboration software, fair enough, but it in no way invalidates my argument, and that if other people's. Users have desired customisable toolbars pretty much since it was removed from Evernote for Mac. They've shown how much they care about this issue for users. For Evernote's sake, I would hope no developers are planning to release a dedicated, focused note-taking repository to compete directly with Evernote.

Maybe the human race does have more important things to argue about, would you like them to do it here, in the Evernote forums? Really?

[JMichaelTX 4,104]

Just catching up on the passionate discussion  .   I think there are great points made on both sides of the argument.  Let me just say that we are reading the discussion and we do appreciate and understand the points people are making.

 

I just wanted to give everyone a heads up that we're putting the finishing touches on Evernote Mac 6.0.6.  We've spent most of our time on fixing issues.  

. . .

 

Please keep in mind that people who are happy rarely frequent the forums so even though a point of view or issue may appear to have 100% support it doesn't actually have 100% support.   I know many of you know this but I just like to mention it every now and then.  We try our best to balance the needs of the millions of customers here in the US and around the world who have varying design tastes, needs and goals.  Thank you for all your input.  We do read it.

 

Marcus,

 

Many thanks for your post.  Good communications is vital.

 

I always favor updates that primarily address fixing of bugs.  Please keep up this good work.

One thing that would really help is to give us more details about what bugs have been fixed in a release.

This has both a practical and a psychological benefit.

 

The practical is that it allows us to determine if we should update, because EN has fixed a bug that is critical to our workflow.  It also allows us to test Evernote to confirm that the bug has been fixed.

 

The psychological is that it gives us comfort that you guys are really working on bugs.  The more the release notes discuss bug fixes, vs adding some new feature to stuff like EN Context and Work Chat, conveys the impression that you really are focusing on fixing bugs.  

 

Does this make sense to you?

 

However, I'm not sure I agree with this:

 

Please keep in mind that people who are happy rarely frequent the forums so even though a point of view or issue may appear to have 100% support it doesn't actually have 100% support. 

 

That is probably true.  However, I think studies have shown that many, perhaps most, people who experience problems or bugs also don't bother to report the issue.  Many just quit using the product.  Others figure out some workaround that allow them to keep using the product.  It is a real PITA to go through all the trouble to create a forum account, or to work through the hard-to-use process of creating a Support Ticket, all the while with no real expectation that the company (in this case Evernote) will actually take notice of the issue/complaint and take action to fix the bug.

 

Let's face the facts.  For the large majority of the 100M+ users of Evernote, it is a FREE product.  This means that if a person has any interest what-so-ever, there is NO reason not to try it.  If, when they try it, they encounter a bug or bad design, they may just quit using it.

 

I can't cite the source right now, but I have read that for every user who bothers to report a problem/issue/bog, there are at least 9 more who also encounter the issue, but don't bother to report it.

 

The key issue I see from reading the forums is sync.  Sync MUST be rock-solid.  It is like SAVE, and must always work.  IMO this is both a bug issue and a design issue.  Sync design must assume that many users will do challenging actions, like editing Notes on one device without having sync'd the same Note on other devices or the current device.  Evernote must detect this and fix if possible, and if not, advise the user on how to best resolve the issue.  

 

Thanks again for your great communications and passion for the product.

[beatybeaty 9]

 

 

Anybody from Evernote actually even looking at this thread and addressing these issues??...

 

That would require Evernote having someone to actually care about our issues, or you know, acknowledge our existence. Ostensibly, that is not the case. Has been for a very long time now.

 

We definitely read the forums although we don't always respond. 

 

beatybeaty, we're looking into the issue with slow keyboard responsiveness, as well as many of the other issues reported here. Thanks for posting!

 

Ok, that's great!  Thanks very much for the reply, Jack.

[CEB 4]

I second this:

With regards to very top bar... Search should always be showing.... Not chat... 

[NoelK 5]

Since there is still discussion about the buttons being customisable (which I completely agree with), in particular the Work Chat button, I thought I might ask why exactly is it that this new contextual feature for Evernote can be switched off if I want it, but Work Chat cannot? Why can't I switch that off?

 

Let me emphasise this further:

I do not use Evernote in the same way a business executive (for example) uses it.

 

I do not need to collaborate with coworkers through Evernote. I do not want a chat client built into the same app I use to take notes, outline ideas, and in general produce raw information from my head to the computer before I work through it properly later in the appropriate program. Why (WHY?) can I not customise Evernote for my own needs/uses? Please consider making various elements customisable. The toolbar would be a great place to start.

 

Please consider adding the Evernote green accents back in. In a misguided attempt to follow Apple's guidelines for Yosemite, I think you guys have completely removed the soul and character that was there with older versions of Evernote. Such a simple thing, green accent colours, could go a long way to alleviating people's problems with the new grey-on-grey-on-retina-burning white. I'm seriously considering just using the web client from now on.

 

I write this in the assumption that the Evernote dev team actually listens to it's users and would like to actually improve the experience. That said, I'm happy you guys will be making the app more and more stable as time goes on.

[CEB 4]

I've said it before but will say it again....

TEST your software before you release it.

Also, and this is a new idea for me, when a new release comes out warn users if it will require migration of all notes from the old version to the new version.

I hate it when I lose access to my computer because Evernote has to take it away from me.

[lykoz 147]

Since there is still discussion about the buttons being customisable (which I completely agree with), in particular the Work Chat button, I thought I might ask why exactly is it that this new contextual feature for Evernote can be switched off if I want it, but Work Chat cannot? Why can't I switch that off?

 

Let me emphasise this further:

I do not use Evernote in the same way a business executive (for example) uses it.

 

I do not need to collaborate with coworkers through Evernote. I do not want a chat client built into the same app I use to take notes, outline ideas, and in general produce raw information from my head to the computer before I work through it properly later in the appropriate program. Why (WHY?) can I not customise Evernote for my own needs/uses? Please consider making various elements customisable. The toolbar would be a great place to start.

 

Please consider adding the Evernote green accents back in. In a misguided attempt to follow Apple's guidelines for Yosemite, I think you guys have completely removed the soul and character that was there with older versions of Evernote. Such a simple thing, green accent colours, could go a long way to alleviating people's problems with the new grey-on-grey-on-retina-burning white. I'm seriously considering just using the web client from now on.

 

I write this in the assumption that the Evernote dev team actually listens to it's users and would like to actually improve the experience. That said, I'm happy you guys will be making the app more and more stable as time goes on.

 

Workchat is very usefull to many...

Customizability confuses things

 

I think the problem lies more in its placement and how its in a position whereby it messes with visibility and spacing to buttons that other people consider more important.

 

i.e. if I put evernote in half screen... I cant add tags or search properly... because the top bar gets cramped and unusable...

 

We need to features we use all the time to always be there... half screen or not... 

Workchat.. I could live with it being compromised in half screen...

 

What I cant live with is my search/addition of tags etc being compromised...

 

Its just one button... They need to place it better... probably make it smaller too...

[JMichaelTX 4,104]

BUG REPORT:  Changing Notebook via AppleScript Fails 

First Reported:  Jul 25, 2014

NOT Fixed as of Ver 6.0.5