Evernote for Mac 5.6 Public Beta 1

[Jackolicious 808]

Friends of Evernote!

 

We have an incredible release available today. It has more user-requested features/functionality than any single prior release of Evernote for Mac! 

 

Important: 

1. This is pre-release beta software. Users will have to manually update to this release for the time being. If you checked the preferences option to update to beta releases, you will be updated automatically soon. If you can't wait, this post is for you!

2. This release requires OS X 10.7+

 

At Evernote, we believe that speed and stability are essential for productivity. That’s why we’ve completely rewritten Evernote for Mac. It may look familiar but it's significantly faster, more reliable and consumes less energy than ever before.

 

Speed:

• Sync is more than 3x faster. Users with lots of shared notebooks and Evernote Business users will see the biggest improvements.
• New notes sync instantly so they’re immediately accessible on your other devices.
• Share notes without waiting for a sync to complete.
• Launch and quit times have been reduced dramatically.
• New keyboard shortcuts have been added to jump to the note list for easy navigation (CMD + |) and you can now tab between the search field, the note list, current note title and note body.
• Energy consumption when the app is idle has been significantly reduced.

 

Stability:

• We’ve closed over 500 bugs including more than 150 types of crashes.
• Our crash reporting system has been completely rebuilt.

 

New features:

• Tables can now be resized, and have configurable background colors and border styles.
• Images can be resized right in the note editor. Just click an image and drag the handle in the bottom right corner.
• Search results are now ordered by relevance.
• Faster notebook selector at the top of the note list remembers your recently used notebooks.
• Redesigned checkboxes in the note editor are easier to click.
• Evernote will now stay logged in by default.

 

Known issue:

• Spotlight search is not currently functional

 

If you see a crash, please send a report! If you see an odd behavior, please post here.

 

Enjoy the release: http://cdn1.evernote.com/mac-smd/prerelease/Evernote_BETA_5.6.0_Public_Beta_1_450470.zip

[Dan Wilson 85]

Is there a new forum for beta 3 or is it right to post here?

[ScottLougheed 1,316]

Is there a new forum for beta 3 or is it right to post here?

 

Beta 3 Thread

[Dan Wilson 85]

Would also love the option for a bare-bones note — no toolbars, no rich text. For quick note taking (think "writing down a phone message when you don't have pen and paper") to then go back later and embellish it with colors or bold text or what have you.

 

We already have this feature, at least in the latest GA release 5.5.1.  Just click on the Elephant icon in the main Apple menu (or use the shortcut setup in prefs) for "Quick Note".

 

Don't know if it's still in the Beta or not.

Exactly what I thought. When I tried using it a few times recently it did not work in the beta version.

[dasevilla 3]

With beta #2, I pasting lists no longer includes list markers

 

1. Create a note with a list

2. Copy the content of the note

3. Paste into a plain text text editor (i.e. Sublime Text)

 

Expected:

This is a list * A * B * C

Saw:

This is a listABC

[RobLewis 26]

Any changes to the AppleScript dictionary?

 

IIRC, some of the note metadata fields aren't accessible to AppleScript (I think "author", for one).

 

It would be nice to have this fully implemented.

 

And just for the hell of it, I'll repeat my long-standing requests for "star rating" and "comments" as additional metadata items (ducks).

[Martin Packer 162]

I'm on beta channel but 5.6.1 hasn't been offered yet. Should I be worried?

[dnov 1]

Great news. Any updates on zero-knowledge encryption?

[CatOne 30]

I'm on beta channel but 5.6.1 hasn't been offered yet. Should I be worried?

You can download it using the URL in this thread. That's how I got it and it works well in 2 days of use.  ::shrug::

[Dan Wilson 85]

JMichael the Quick Note does work in the latest beta (450470).

[Metrodon 2,162]

The fonts dialog (cmd+t) is missing the top row of controls (underline, strikethrough, colour etc)

[jayelevy 5]

Loaded Beta 3 this a.m. Prior to this update (though I skipped Beta 2), I was able to drag an Apple mail message from Apple mail into an EN note and bring over the full email (.eml file). As of Beta 3, when I do this action, EN is only including a URL back to the original message. Assuming this was a product change, this is a significant step backward. No longer can I store a message I want to save with a note independent of Apple Mail. Please tell me this capability was not removed!!

 

 

[macfixer 337]

Loaded Beta 3 this a.m. Prior to this update (though I skipped Beta 2), I was able to drag an Apple mail message from Apple mail into an EN note and bring over the full email (.eml file). As of Beta 3, when I do this action, EN is only including a URL back to the original message. Assuming this was a product change, this is a significant step backward. No longer can I store a message I want to save with a note independent of Apple Mail. Please tell me this capability was not removed!!

 Works fine for me…

 

http://note.io/1AbZyk9

[AlexB4 11]

 

LOVE the Mac Pages integration -- now you can view Pages with the Evernote view or expand an iWork Pages document to view inline.   Seems that the zip file issue with the new iWork Pages format has been licked.   Not there yet with Keynote or Numbers but I suspect you guys are hard at work with that.

 

I am willing to guess you're using an older version of Pages (pre 5.0) - or  an old file format (you can still export to Pages '09). Still not possible to achieve this with the new Pages format.

 

No-- I am using the latest version of iWork and the latest OSX for that matter.  It hasn't been possible since the the 5.0 version but I am reporting that with Evernote 5.6 beta 1 you can now use the Evernote preview and inline view of Pages 5.2 documents - but not yet with Keynote 6.2 or Numbers 3.2.

[Jackolicious 808]

Quicknote will be fixed in the next public beta. Thanks for the report.

[polocanada 15]

If you wonder where are the 100GB gone on your drive after upgrading to EN Beta, check the folder:

 

/Users/~/Library/Application Support/com.evernote.Evernote/OLD

 

The old folder will contain the copy of the old database before it was migrated to new database.

 

If your EN runs fine and is in sync, it's probably safe to delete this. In my case it was 35GB which is the size of one of my EN databases (it's huge).

[jayelevy 5]

@jay, please attempt to troubleshoot and let me know how it goes.

 

 

I'm receiving the AppleScript Error:  "Evernote got an error: Operation would exceed monthly upload allowance."

 

The AppleScript console shows this info for the last line in the script that is kicking that error:

 

append note id "x-coredata://5D5AB38F-0261-4604-A434-00110606F914/ENNote/p520" of notebook "Reference" html "<strong>20140708</strong>: testing<br>

 

 

FYI, My current Account status: Currently monthly usage 13.3 MB of 1 GB

[stuball 12]

Paste and word replacement (from spell check) seem to add an RETURN.

 

[ursula 42]

Should betas appear when I open "Check for Updates"?

 

I could have sworn I'd downloaded betas that way before, but I am using 5.5.1 and it tells me I have the latest version -- even though I've checked "update to beta versions when available" under Preferences.

[s2sailor 1,097]

How is the bulleting behavior in the new editor?  Can anyone offer comments on how it compares to the prior version?  Any other differences noted aside from checkbox size?

[pgdahl 133]

 

 

LOVE the Mac Pages integration -- now you can view Pages with the Evernote view or expand an iWork Pages document to view inline.   Seems that the zip file issue with the new iWork Pages format has been licked.   Not there yet with Keynote or Numbers but I suspect you guys are hard at work with that.

 

I am willing to guess you're using an older version of Pages (pre 5.0) - or  an old file format (you can still export to Pages '09). Still not possible to achieve this with the new Pages format.

 

No-- I am using the latest version of iWork and the latest OSX for that matter.  It hasn't been possible since the the 5.0 version but I am reporting that with Evernote 5.6 beta 1 you can now use the Evernote preview and inline view of Pages 5.2 documents - but not yet with Keynote 6.2 or Numbers 3.2.

 

 

That's all very fine, but I - using the exact same versions - am reporting that you cannot attach a Pages document and use quick view or view the document inline. I have tried importing/attaching a Pages 5.2 document into an Evernote (5.6.0 PB 1) note in any thinkable way to absolutely no avail. Still shows up with the .zip attachment, it only works if I use the older '09 format or convert it into .docx. 

[Jackolicious 808]

You will not update automatically yet. We're holding off on autoupdates for the time being.

[Dan Wilson 85]

How is the bulleting behavior in the new editor?  Can anyone offer comments on how it compares to the prior version?  Any other differences noted aside from checkbox size?

 

No problems so far.  Bullets work as they should.  I haven't noticed any differences.

[s2sailor 1,097]

How about if you cut and paste bullets and move them around, any issues?  This is where I've noticed a lot of issues with the current editor.  Things like extra bullets or missing ones.

[AlexB4 11]

 

 

 

LOVE the Mac Pages integration -- now you can view Pages with the Evernote view or expand an iWork Pages document to view inline.   Seems that the zip file issue with the new iWork Pages format has been licked.   Not there yet with Keynote or Numbers but I suspect you guys are hard at work with that.

 

I am willing to guess you're using an older version of Pages (pre 5.0) - or  an old file format (you can still export to Pages '09). Still not possible to achieve this with the new Pages format.

 

No-- I am using the latest version of iWork and the latest OSX for that matter.  It hasn't been possible since the the 5.0 version but I am reporting that with Evernote 5.6 beta 1 you can now use the Evernote preview and inline view of Pages 5.2 documents - but not yet with Keynote 6.2 or Numbers 3.2.

 

 

That's all very fine, but I - using the exact same versions - am reporting that you cannot attach a Pages document and use quick view or view the document inline. I have tried importing/attaching a Pages 5.2 document into an Evernote (5.6.0 PB 1) note in any thinkable way to absolutely no avail. Still shows up with the .zip attachment, it only works if I use the older '09 format or convert it into .docx. 

 

 

 

Apologies but I realized that the document I was trying this with was an older document that hadn't been upgraded to the new format.   I guess just wishful thinking...

[Dan Wilson 85]

Quicknote will be fixed in the next public beta. Thanks for the report.

 

Works now for me.

[CatOne 30]

How about if you cut and paste bullets and move them around, any issues?  This is where I've noticed a lot of issues with the current editor.  Things like extra bullets or missing ones.

I did some simple testing, and cutting and pasting bullets around seems to work well. Copy paste works fine and will replicate as such, but if I say copy a list of bullets and paste onto a bullet, I may get an extra row of indents simply because i'm pasting at a different level than before.

 

In 2 days of use I haven't noticed anything untoward. If the editor is truly all new (truthfully, it does feel different to me; it feels more responsive), it may have an entirely different set of foibles and issues than the old one did (which did feel "heavy" to me).

 

Honestly, I think the best thing to do is to install the beta and try it :-)

[Dan Wilson 85]

Yup no problems with cutting and pasting stuff, responds well.

[GrumpyMonkey 4,314]

Great news. Any updates on zero-knowledge encryption?

Good question However, such a capability is unlikely to be introduced into a single client, if they ever introduce it at all. It's probably best to focus on the beta in this thread and post your question in the existing threads on the topic of encryption.

[Dan Wilson 85]

Yeah I thought that was the case after a bit of fiddling.  I am using new Pages and OSX, added a Pages doc to Evernote which showed inline.  But then realised I hadn't upgraded that document yet.  

 

Quickview still works, so that is ok for OSX.  And the iOS Evernote app also quick views the new documents so at least that functionality works across Apple's platforms. 

[lgoose 30]

Jack, any chance that this roll-out will address the issues described here ? long story short: having "copy classic note link" as a persistent menu option so we can apply a keyboard shortcut to it.

[ursula 42]

If you wonder where are the 100GB gone on your drive after upgrading to EN Beta, check the folder:

 

/Users/~/Library/Application Support/com.evernote.Evernote/OLD

 

The old folder will contain the copy of the old database before it was migrated to new database.

 

If your EN runs fine and is in sync, it's probably safe to delete this. In my case it was 35GB which is the size of one of my EN databases (it's huge).

Thank you!

[s2sailor 1,097]

 

How about if you cut and paste bullets and move them around, any issues?  This is where I've noticed a lot of issues with the current editor.  Things like extra bullets or missing ones.

 

Honestly, I think the best thing to do is to install the beta and try it :-)

 

I'm a Windows user and will have to wait until they roll it out there, but encouraging news so far.

[macfixer 337]

 

Would also love the option for a bare-bones note — no toolbars, no rich text. For quick note taking (think "writing down a phone message when you don't have pen and paper") to then go back later and embellish it with colors or bold text or what have you.

 

 

We already have this feature, at least in the latest GA release 5.5.1.  Just click on the Elephant icon in the main Apple menu (or use the shortcut setup in prefs) for "Quick Note".

 

Don't know if it's still in the Beta or not.

 

I knew that — but its attached to the menu bar. I want a windowed version of it.

[JMichaelTX 4,104]

Jack, any chance that this roll-out will address the issues described here ? long story short: having "copy classic note link" as a persistent menu option so we can apply a keyboard shortcut to it.

 

In fact, I'd go one step further:  revert to the previous behavior where the DEFAULT link is always the "classic link", and provide an option for "external link".    It seems that most people want the "classic" internal link.

[CatOne 30]

There are some UI issues with the new checkboxes, specifically around deleting with 5.6.0 beta 1 (450470)

 

1) If you're on a line above a line with a checkbox, forward delete doesn't work (i.e. you cannot clear up white space)

2) If you're on a line WITH a checkbox and positioned to the left of it, you cannot forward delete and remove the checkbox. You must select to the *right* of the checkbox and use left delete.

 

Forward delete does work for other characters and when checkboxes aren't around, so the checkboxes specifically seem to be breaking this.

[pgdahl 133]

Merging woes.

 

I addressed the new behaviour with the first note in a set of merged notes now also get the big, bold header on bluish-grey background that previously only notes below the first one would get.

 

One thing is that it is redundant (and ugly), another thing is that it causes a problem if you, like me, continue to append notes on a merged note. The top notes header will be repeated ad nauseam, unless you delete it after each merge. Eksample: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/a678e546-8892-4219-9acc-8eebfe416e0f/dc5d4dc658447c881e58ba6b49e10b22

 

So, the time I save on not having to manually sync merged notes I now use on deleting headers (which can be surprisingly cumbersome depending on what the content of the note is).

[jefito 5,586]

It's a matter of complexity, and it's a matter of priorities and time.

 

Nearly every reasonably large development project I've seen has varying "tiers" of bug severity (say, 1 through 5). A priority 1 bug is typically a showstopper which does what it says: Block shipment of the project. Usually, other bugs (say 2 through 5) have varying degrees of severity, and won't necessarily block shipment. These may be things that cause unexpected behavior, look a little wonky, perhaps autocorrect doesn't work when you have the letter ß in a word, or something else that's complicated to solve and rare to hit. On a project with millions or tens of millions of code, these things will exist, and the numbers could be in the thousands if everything is tracked.

 

Jack didn't say the severity and whether the 500 are "fixed" or still outstanding. With sufficiently small defined features, I can easily see 500 tickets (bugs or features) addressed in a release.

 

I've seen projects that have literally 80,000 "bugs" addressed on a 1-year timeline. When there are this many things in the air, having thousands open when you ship simply happens: It's a matter of making a decision about what needs to be done before you ship, and what can be done later.

We're using Bugzilla for issue tracking, and we use it to track actual bugs (small to large), usability issues, as well as feature requests (which are not really bugs in the true sense, and can be quite small to quite large). Couldn't tell you the number of lines of code we have in our system (which mainly tracks two large-ish projects, each over 10 years old; the one I work on has ~2000 C++ source files, not including 3rd-party library sources that we also build, so millions of lines of code is a near certainty. We're a smallish shop, so we won't be approaching anything like 80,000 issues being fixed in a year, though one of our principals often fixes things before they even get entered into our system (which is a software development issue of another kind altogether), but even so. Your description of how things are triaged is right on. 300 "bugs", even for a beta (surely some of them are internally generated and present before this hit the public, and some of them might be carry-overs from earlier versions) of a program that has wide acceptance isn't really a lot. It's pretty much true that all shipping software has bugs.

[CatOne 30]

OK, an issue with filtered or search results: Results keep defaulting back to "relevance."

 

So, specifically: Select snippet view, and then set it to show by date created (this is my default).

 

Now click on a tag to get a subset of results. They will be displayed on order of "relevance." Change it to "date created." OK, now go make a change to one of the notes. After the update is saved to the server, the notes re-shuffle into "relevance" again (ARGH!). When filtering by a tag, relevance has no meaning: Everything with that tag is 100% relevant, and everything without it is 0% relevant :-)

 

The same happens on the result of a search as well. I can see "relevance" w.r.t. search results, but if I choose to display by date created, I would 1) Like to stick for the lifespan that the search is active (AT LEAST) and 2) preferably have the default stick across searches, as it does in all non-search or non-filter views.

[deiffert 0]

For some reason I cannot access my tags at all. If I click on "tags" I get the pinwheel and I have to force a close. If I try command option 3, the same thing happens. I simply have no access to tag browsing.

 

Same here. Anyone else experiencing this?

[ziru 11]

OK, an issue with filtered or search results: Results keep defaulting back to "relevance."

 

So, specifically: Select snippet view, and then set it to show by date created (this is my default).

 

Now click on a tag to get a subset of results. They will be displayed on order of "relevance." Change it to "date created." OK, now go make a change to one of the notes. After the update is saved to the server, the notes re-shuffle into "relevance" again (ARGH!). When filtering by a tag, relevance has no meaning: Everything with that tag is 100% relevant, and everything without it is 0% relevant :-)

 

The same happens on the result of a search as well. I can see "relevance" w.r.t. search results, but if I choose to display by date created, I would 1) Like to stick for the lifespan that the search is active (AT LEAST) and 2) preferably have the default stick across searches, as it does in all non-search or non-filter views.

 

Hi CatOne,

 

You are right.  We intend to enable sort-by-relevance for searches only.  The issue you described is actually a bug in public beta 1, which will display results in order of relevance for some filter views (such as tag selection).  It will be fixed in the next beta.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Also, although we hope the new sort-by-relevance feature could help users find what they want more quickly, we do understand users rely on chronological ordering at times.  Here are two ways to disable sort-by-relevance: http://note.io/1jPrT5c

 

Thanks,

[Dan Wilson 85]

I've got a sync issue.  Evernote app told me to delete a specific note which was causing the issue.  However, still getting the error which cites that same note as the source of the problem even though that note has been deleted.  I think this was an issue with how I upgraded the EN app rather than a bug with the release itself.  I did quit and restart the app too.

 

Perhaps there is a cache somewhere I can check for the presence of the offending note?  If not I will submit my activity log.

[Dan Wilson 85]

At the chance of repeating myself there is also an issue when you either annotate an image in a note with Skitch or even rotate the image, when the action (annotate or rotate) is complete you loose the ability to make any further changes, add text, delete text and so on.

 

You have to come out of the Note and go back in... Anyone??

I can't reproduce this behaviour.  Have tried annotating and rotating an image but I can straightaway edit the note text.  How are you viewing the note when you make these edits?  I use the preview shown in the main view.  Were you opening the note into a new window?  I made a few annotations/rotations of that Galileo portrait but was immediately able to edit the text in the note.

 

 

 

 

An error I have noticed a few times now is that sometimes I cannot use DELETE to delete new lines / returns (or whatever stye should be called!) but BACKSPACE works.  This does not happen all the time and I am not sure about any relevant aspects of the context when it has happened.

[CatOne 30]

Looks nice. A few small touches, but they improve the UI. Performance looks great in simple testing.

 

Found a small issue so far. The (dark) sidebar does not maintain width across launches. It keeps resetting to the default width, which in my case is too wide.

[CatOne 30]

 

OK, an issue with filtered or search results: Results keep defaulting back to "relevance."

 

So, specifically: Select snippet view, and then set it to show by date created (this is my default).

 

Now click on a tag to get a subset of results. They will be displayed on order of "relevance." Change it to "date created." OK, now go make a change to one of the notes. After the update is saved to the server, the notes re-shuffle into "relevance" again (ARGH!). When filtering by a tag, relevance has no meaning: Everything with that tag is 100% relevant, and everything without it is 0% relevant :-)

 

The same happens on the result of a search as well. I can see "relevance" w.r.t. search results, but if I choose to display by date created, I would 1) Like to stick for the lifespan that the search is active (AT LEAST) and 2) preferably have the default stick across searches, as it does in all non-search or non-filter views.

 

Hi CatOne,

 

You are right.  We intend to enable sort-by-relevance for searches only.  The issue you described is actually a bug in public beta 1, which will display results in order of relevance for some filter views (such as tag selection).  It will be fixed in the next beta.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Also, although we hope the new sort-by-relevance feature could help users find what they want more quickly, we do understand users rely on chronological ordering at times.  Here are two ways to disable sort-by-relevance: http://note.io/1jPrT5c

 

Thanks,

 

Got it. I didn't know that the "relevance" check was an on/off instead of an option instead of by something else (e.g. "date created"). Because it's at the bottom it's an on/off toggle and not a "radio button option" with the others. While I'm sure this is an OS convention, it can confuse the best of us 

 

Thanks!

[craigmcclellan 9]

I like the frequent automatic syncs. It's a nice touch for someone like me who writes the majority of his blog posts in Evernote. I do want to request the sync animation be a little more subtle since it happens so frequently now. It's a bit distracting as I try to write.

 

I'm also running into a problem with searching for tags. When I first opened the beta, I ran a saved search for all of my unfinished blog posts to begin working on the next post to go up. A few minutes later, I needed info in another note under a different tag. Now when I try to search for any other tag besides my "posts" tag, only "posts" show up. It's stuck on this tag, and I can't use search to find tags.

 

I want to keep testing the beta, but this is my primary method of finding notes I need. I'm going to go back to a more stable release for now, but can't wait to try the next beta again.

[Dan Wilson 85]

I've not had any problems so far accessing my tags.

[Dan Wilson 85]

If you wonder where are the 100GB gone on your drive after upgrading to EN Beta, check the folder:

 

/Users/~/Library/Application Support/com.evernote.Evernote/OLD

 

The old folder will contain the copy of the old database before it was migrated to new database.

 

If your EN runs fine and is in sync, it's probably safe to delete this. In my case it was 35GB which is the size of one of my EN databases (it's huge).

 

I just checked mine, it was 12 KB.  So I guess I got off lightly!

[mrgoerend 89]

Copy/pasting from Evernote into Gmail on Chrome results in the bullets in a bulleted list being stripped out and hyperlinked text no longer being hyperlinked.

[ziru 11]

I've got a sync issue.  Evernote app told me to delete a specific note which was causing the issue.  However, still getting the error which cites that same note as the source of the problem even though that note has been deleted.  I think this was an issue with how I upgraded the EN app rather than a bug with the release itself.  I did quit and restart the app too.

 

Perhaps there is a cache somewhere I can check for the presence of the offending note?  If not I will submit my activity log.

 

Can you check whether the note is in Trash (ie., Notebooks->Trash)?  If so, delete the note again there, and try sync again.

[Phil Moore 14]

 

A HUGE feature enhancement is the ability to change the table sizes in this Beta release... However a HUGE failure is when you enter into Presentation Mode... 

"HUGE" is a little hyperbolic, don't you think? We're working on it

 

 

I still stand by HUGE and that the numbers are not great and stacking up.  Out of interest how many bugs / tickets are open today for the Note Editor in Beta release?

 

P.S A huge fan of EN and a paying fan and also an EN Business advocate inside my organisation.

[jayelevy 5]

Capture Selection from Screen option in context menu while editing note seems to not be working.

 

After making this choice, the Grab function is initiated, but after selecting a portion of the screen, releasing the mouse and control returned to the EN note, the image copied is not pasted. Instead, a square with a blue question mark is inserted into the note.

[MahargTheOld 1]

Evernote doesn't search Korean text any longer, or does so very inconsistently. Mostly not at all. I have no problem searching Korean on the web version, though.

 

Is anyone else having a problem searching using foreign characters?

[DavidR 5]

@jackolicious

 

I'm using a Scansnap S300M.  (Yes, it's old, but I've used it with Evernote for 6 years now, and it still works great!)

[Dan Wilson 85]

Bug Report:

In the new Beta, when I click on a Note Stack, it only shows notes that have been edited since I installed the new beta.  It does not show all the notes in the stack.

 

**Update:  It also will not search the whole stack - only notes updated since installing beta**

 

The individual notes in the notebooks in the stack appear to display just fine.  

 

PM me if more information is needed.  

 

No issues on this for me.  I get notes from beyond installing the beta in all my stacks.

[Dan Wilson 85]

I noticed the beta does not let me hide the Elephant menu extra anymore. The previous version made its continued background operation independent of the menu bar icon, the preferences in the new beta do not: it’s either let it visibly run, or not let it run at all. Note the first run setup still supports running it hidden, but as soon as you touch preferences in Evernote proper, you are stuck with the new, rather annoying behavior.

 

Is there an advantage to having it running in the background without it being visible?  Is it needed to take a quick note for example?

[GrumpyMonkey 4,314]

Evernote doesn't search Korean text any longer, or does so very inconsistently. Mostly not at all. I have no problem searching Korean on the web version, though.

 

Is anyone else having a problem searching using foreign characters?

 

CJK (Chinese, Japanese, and Korean) appear to work fine for me. I haven't noticed any missing results in my searches or anything like that. Could you be more specific about the problem? Perhaps some screen shots showing the note, the search field, and so forth would help. Here is my search today of a recent Korean newspaper article.

 

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s74/sh/ce3b6ae8-c398-4734-ad47-6cc79bcae5c0/c3e8a1b83f4b6cb3d865a10d227e7fb7

 

@ Evernote team

 

By the way, I just found a bug. I successfully pasted my screenshot into the note, but when I clicked to share the note, it deleted the screenshot. Now, my note is empty. I had to put the screenshot back into it. 

 

EDIT: OK, that's weird. I also got a sync conflict. Now I've got two notes shared, one a conflict and one not. The link above goes to the non-conflict note. I only know this because the titles are different (it might be that I changed the title as a sync / share was occurring and that triggered the apparent destruction of my image). This was a bit of a mess. It appears that the image looked like it was deleted, but maybe it was actually there on the Web somewhere. I guess it is good that no data was lost, but this could be kind of an ugly / messy bug if it involves more complicated notes (in this case, it was just a screenshot).

[Dan Wilson 85]

I can no longer choose any font style that I want in the note editor.  Is that the desired behaviour now?  For example I cannot use Helvetica Neue Light, Medium, Thin etc.  I used to be able to use those in the past.

[matt.chellew 0]

For some reason I cannot access my tags at all. If I click on "tags" I get the pinwheel and I have to force a close. If I try command option 3, the same thing happens. I simply have no access to tag browsing.

 

Seconded on this.

[MahargTheOld 1]

 

Evernote doesn't search Korean text any longer, or does so very inconsistently. Mostly not at all. I have no problem searching Korean on the web version, though.

 

Is anyone else having a problem searching using foreign characters?

 

CJK (Chinese, Japanese, and Korean) appear to work fine for me. I haven't noticed any missing results in my searches or anything like that. Could you be more specific about the problem? Perhaps some screen shots showing the note, the search field, and so forth would help. Here is my search today of a recent Korean newspaper article.

 

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s74/sh/ce3b6ae8-c398-4734-ad47-6cc79bcae5c0/c3e8a1b83f4b6cb3d865a10d227e7fb7

 

@ Evernote team

 

By the way, I just found a bug. I successfully pasted my screenshot into the note, but when I clicked to share the note, it deleted the screenshot. Now, my note is empty. I had to put the screenshot back into it. 

 

EDIT: OK, that's weird. I also got a sync conflict. Now I've got two notes shared, one a conflict and one not. The link above goes to the non-conflict note. I only know this because the titles are different (it might be that I changed the title as a sync / share was occurring and that triggered the apparent destruction of my image). This was a bit of a mess. It appears that the image looked like it was deleted, but maybe it was actually there on the Web somewhere. I guess it is good that no data was lost, but this could be kind of an ugly / messy bug if it involves more complicated notes (in this case, it was just a screenshot).

 

 

New Korean-language notes I create now show up in searches. Older notes do not, however. Or some of them do while others do not. Is there any easy way to reinitialize the index?

[GrumpyMonkey 4,314]

 

 

Evernote doesn't search Korean text any longer, or does so very inconsistently. Mostly not at all. I have no problem searching Korean on the web version, though.

 

Is anyone else having a problem searching using foreign characters?

 

CJK (Chinese, Japanese, and Korean) appear to work fine for me. I haven't noticed any missing results in my searches or anything like that. Could you be more specific about the problem? Perhaps some screen shots showing the note, the search field, and so forth would help. Here is my search today of a recent Korean newspaper article.

 

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s74/sh/ce3b6ae8-c398-4734-ad47-6cc79bcae5c0/c3e8a1b83f4b6cb3d865a10d227e7fb7

 

@ Evernote team

 

By the way, I just found a bug. I successfully pasted my screenshot into the note, but when I clicked to share the note, it deleted the screenshot. Now, my note is empty. I had to put the screenshot back into it. 

 

EDIT: OK, that's weird. I also got a sync conflict. Now I've got two notes shared, one a conflict and one not. The link above goes to the non-conflict note. I only know this because the titles are different (it might be that I changed the title as a sync / share was occurring and that triggered the apparent destruction of my image). This was a bit of a mess. It appears that the image looked like it was deleted, but maybe it was actually there on the Web somewhere. I guess it is good that no data was lost, but this could be kind of an ugly / messy bug if it involves more complicated notes (in this case, it was just a screenshot).

 

 

New Korean-language notes I create now show up in searches. Older notes do not, however. Or some of them do while others do not. Is there any easy way to reinitialize the index?

 

 

Oh... I'm not sure. If everything is synced, and if everything looks correct on the Web, then the easiest thing would be a reinstallation, in my opinion. That ought to solve any issues. You'll probably want to make sure and get rid of everything, though, just in case. 

 

http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=135

[AlexB4 11]

In 5.5 when creating a new note with the keyboard shortcut (^⌘⇧N) only the new note window shows up (that is if Evernote is note open but running in the background).   Now what happens is that the Evernote note app shows up and then the note window comes up in front of it.  I then have to close the Evernote app window.   Preferred the single note since it make everything less cluttered.  

[binduwavell 0]

Not sure where to report issues with the beta. 

 

I was in a notebook and tried to create a new note with Cmd-N. 

 

I realized I didn't want it in the original notebook so I changed the notebook associated with my new note with the selector at the top left of the note.

 

The note vanished!

 

Since I was actively in notebook A and the note is now in notebook B it doesn't show up.

 

Should either note move if I'm editing or should change the active notebook...

 

Can't remember what was done before, but I'm relatively certain it was not this

[bbinder 0]

Hi and thanks for the Beta!

I notice that when I open large notes that contain many images and checkmarks, the note is really slow to open.  In addition, instead of showing the checked boxes, it shows "Missing plug-in" instead.  If I wait about 5 seconds, then it shows the check boxes and the rest of the note as expected.

Just wanted to inform you guys.  I can provide further information if needed.

Thanks,

Brian

[evb 30]

Any news regarding spotlight search? Better not install beta in order not to lose the function? Will it be functional in the final versions (1) app store and (2) download?

 

Thx, EvB.

[dasevilla 3]

Did the margin between lists and paragraphs change? They seem closer together and now my notes look cramped.

[macfixer 337]

In 5.5 when creating a new note with the keyboard shortcut (^⌘⇧N) only the new note window shows up (that is if Evernote is note open but running in the background).   Now what happens is that the Evernote note app shows up and then the note window comes up in front of it.  I then have to close the Evernote app window.   Preferred the single note since it make everything less cluttered.  

Yes, THIS.

 

Would also love the option for a bare-bones note — no toolbars, no rich text. For quick note taking (think "writing down a phone message when you don't have pen and paper") to then go back later and embellish it with colors or bold text or what have you.

[lgoose 30]

I posted this on the private beta thread and not sure if I'm the only one experiencing it - it's actually hard to replicate... seems more bound to happen after a sleep+wake. checkboxes become "missing plugin" placeholders

[cornetg 62]

If you wonder where are the 100GB gone on your drive after upgrading to EN Beta, check the folder:

 

/Users/~/Library/Application Support/com.evernote.Evernote/OLD

 

The old folder will contain the copy of the old database before it was migrated to new database.

 

If your EN runs fine and is in sync, it's probably safe to delete this. In my case it was 35GB which is the size of one of my EN databases (it's huge).

 

I'm a little confused here. My Data folder is there inside the Old folder but does not exist separately in the parent folder of com.evernote.Evernote. I'm therefore very hesitant to delete the Old folder.

 

Please could you clarify. Has the Data folder now been merged into, or renamed as, some other folder in the new beta?

[Adjusting 276]

Can't remember what was done before, but I'm relatively certain it was not this 

 

This is exactly how it works in 5.5.1.

[slyfoxen 3]

Popclip extensions associated with copy and paster don't always work in Evernote windows. For example, change small letters to first capital produces a blank.

 

Problem with the notes editor

 

If I insert "- " before a word and this word is the first one in the new line, the word after "- " jumps to a new line instead of "- " being pasted right in front of the word.

- test- test

[Dan Wilson 85]

Until recently text I highlighted on iOS (orange) would show up appropriately on OS X (yellow) and vice versa.  And if I had highlighted text on iOS I could clear it on OS X and vice versa.

As you can see there is now a conflict with iOS highlight with OS X highlights.  I cannot clear the iOS highlight on OS X, the editor just replaces the iOS orange highlight with the OS X yellow highlight.  I can however clear the OS X highlight from iOS.  The iOS app also overrides the OS X highlights across the editor (I added them back in afterwards so you could see the colour distinction).

[Jackolicious 808]

Copy/Paste will change dramatically in our next beta.

Missing plug-in issues will be addressed.

 

Thanks for all your help everyone! This is great!

[RobLewis 26]

Just installed and launched it. I closed the opening "slide show" window, not realizing that this would also close the login panel. At that point I was stuck with no way to log in or open a new window. All I could do was quit and re-launch. 

 

And I see that you STILL haven't corrected the keystroke for "paste and match style", which per Mac standards is supposed to be Cmd-Opt-Shift-V. You fixed this error once before; why can't you do it again? 

 

Finally, do you plan to create a sub-forum for this release under the "Evernote beta testing" forum? 

 

[dasevilla 3]

I can't figure out how to reproduce it, but when editing a note and using a keyboard shortcut the selected text will have the "Highlight" formatting applied to it. I've seen it twice now: once when copying text and another when applying the bold style.

[macfixer 337]

Copy/Paste will change dramatically in our next beta.

Missing plug-in issues will be addressed.

 

Thanks for all your help everyone! This is great!

 

Soon? 

[GrumpyMonkey 4,314]

Just installed and launched it. I closed the opening "slide show" window, not realizing that this would also close the login panel. At that point I was stuck with no way to log in or open a new window. All I could do was quit and re-launch. 

 

And I see that you STILL haven't corrected the keystroke for "paste and match style", which per Mac standards is supposed to be Cmd-Opt-Shift-V. You fixed this error once before; why can't you do it again? 

 

Finally, do you plan to create a sub-forum for this release under the "Evernote beta testing" forum? thread.

 

Hi. Thanks for reporting. I have merged your thread with the existing one on the beta. Please post your comments in this 

[Jackolicious 808]

Thanks for the feedback. Captured everything til here. Keep it coming!

[Phil Moore 14]

I can't figure out how to reproduce it, but when editing a note and using a keyboard shortcut the selected text will have the "Highlight" formatting applied to it. I've seen it twice now: once when copying text and another when applying the bold style.

It happened to me many times today. When you "highlight" something to copy, then paste leaves the original highlighted yellow...!?!

Another thing is the sizing with tables. When you preview it's all over the place. When you print. Same. I have also see where on screen the text is all Arial 10 but when printed it shows mismatchin fonts.

[mathiepe 44]

Not liking the option where selected text is highlighted automatically. Isn't always so, but happened a few times when copy-pasting, underlining,...

[Adjusting 276]

I can't figure out how to reproduce it, but when editing a note and using a keyboard shortcut the selected text will have the "Highlight" formatting applied to it. I've seen it twice now: once when copying text and another when applying the bold style.

 

Is it possible that you were holding down the command key while you selected the text?

In the Beta, command-drag applies highlighting in the same way it does in iBooks.

[dasevilla 3]

 

I can't figure out how to reproduce it, but when editing a note and using a keyboard shortcut the selected text will have the "Highlight" formatting applied to it. I've seen it twice now: once when copying text and another when applying the bold style.

 

Is it possible that you were holding down the command key while you selected the text?

In the Beta, command-drag applies highlighting in the same way it does in iBooks.

 

After playing around, that's most likely what's happening.

[Dan Wilson 85]

Copy/Paste will change dramatically in our next beta.

....

 

Sounds intriguing Jack.  Looking forward to it.

[Palladion 18]

Not liking the option where selected text is highlighted automatically. Isn't always so, but happened a few times when copy-pasting, underlining,...

@mathiepe: That happens in this beta if you select text while holding the cmd-key. It took me a while to figure it out and at first I was annoyed. Now that I am aware of it, I really like it.

[Jackolicious 808]

It will likely be removed in our next version.

[jmgclark 2]

Loving the new version for the most part. In particular, thanks a million for making the tables more usable/visually minimal.

 

However, I'm having problems with frequent crashes. I do most of my work in Evernote, and it has been crashing 5-10 times per day. This started happening when I was on the private beta test (circa early June), and I was hoping it was fixed, but apparently not. 

 

It looks like no one else on this thread has posted a similar problem---any suggestions?

[Phil Moore 14]

Loving the new version for the most part. In particular, thanks a million for making the tables more usable/visually minimal.

However, I'm having problems with frequent crashes. I do most of my work in Evernote, and it has been crashing 5-10 times per day. This started happening when I was on the private beta test (circa early June), and I was hoping it was fixed, but apparently not.

It looks like no one else on this thread has posted a similar problem---any suggestions?

Me too. Not sure it's coincidence but I run Premium and Business on the one machine. Business is steady but when I switch to Premium at least 3-4 crashes today. It's consistently crashing and I sent the logs when promoted to EN.

[MahargTheOld 1]

Nothing is currently available from the Services menu, which I use a lot in Evernote for doing calculations, etc. I can't add anything to the menu, either. I assume that this is a bug.

 

 

[Phil Moore 14]

Software developers unite and defend... Its admirable and nothing short of what I expected.  

 

When your EN big you have a spotlight cast upon you.  When your CEO comes out and responds to the issues of reliability with a product they are asking you to use to ensure you remember everything, which in turn might miss certain things of vital importance based on issues or bugs or whatever...  That to me is a problem.  An ongoing problem...

 

What also is a problem is this world we now live in... The internet of things, the internet of everything - where we put so much faith into Applications such as EN to remember everything.  Here within is another problem.  We are too reliant on Applications.

 

Your end user should not be your primary tester.

 

You only have to look at the iOS release that enabled App Updates in the background.  How many times this year for example has Twitter or Facebook updated their Apps...?  Take Starbucks for example, came to the market in the past month with their newly refined Application for iOS.  Shouting from the rooftops about it... Installed it... Wouldn't work, wouldn't link to your card and kept going on about Internal Errors.  Reports of peoples accounts actually being wiped.  Starbucks reply was late, two updates later they resolved this issue... Terrible in my opinion and total lack of respect for their customers.

 

Every Application ships with bugs.  Every paid user should not have tolerate these and wait for the dust to settle and the bug count to fall.  It fundamentally suggests a process or processes are failing.

[jayelevy 5]

Seems all of the URLs for linked notes have changed. None of my links to other EN notes (classic style) work any longer. This is really bad for me. Beta upgraders, beware

[jmgclark 2]

 

Loving the new version for the most part. In particular, thanks a million for making the tables more usable/visually minimal.

However, I'm having problems with frequent crashes. I do most of my work in Evernote, and it has been crashing 5-10 times per day. This started happening when I was on the private beta test (circa early June), and I was hoping it was fixed, but apparently not.

It looks like no one else on this thread has posted a similar problem---any suggestions?

Me too. Not sure it's coincidence but I run Premium and Business on the one machine. Business is steady but when I switch to Premium at least 3-4 crashes today. It's consistently crashing and I sent the logs when promoted to EN.

 

 

I'm on premium too. Not sure if that's the cause, but it would be ironic if so!

[Jackolicious 808]

jayelevy, we haven't experienced this. We'll verify. Thanks.

[jefito 5,586]

@Phil:

 

Every end user is fundamentally a tester, because there is no way that all error cases can be discovered before shipping (that's pretty much mathematically true; a program is nothing if not a mathematical entity at base level). The bugs that are known will be triaged, and show-stoppers (e.g. those that involve data loss) ought to be fixed before shipping. Yes, all of this is a problem, and developers do take it seriously and nobody in the industry is happy about it, not the developers and not their management and not their customers. Nobody's defending that bugs are a good thing; they're just reality when you're making software, and software companies manage them because they cannot just be disappeared, as if by magic. Guaranteeing that software is bug-free is no trivial matter, even in the best cases (where ship dates can slip freely or when software failures mean that lives can be endangered). For users who are more risk-averse, waiting until some dust has settled and the user base opinion has certified a particular version is definitely a good idea. For those less risk-averse, you can ride the beta trains of the industry, like this one. Yes, we're reliant on our software applications, and that carries with it some risk, but consider the alternative...

 

Edit: and of course, the associated irony of the situation is that developers themselves depend on software to do their jobs.

[RobLewis 26]

It won't let me edit the text of a new note. 

 

I created a new note with Cmd-Ctrl-N. Typed a title, assigned a notebook, and added some tags. 

 

But now I can't navigate into the text area to actually type the note. Clicking in the text area does nothing. Neither does going to the note title and hitting Tab. 

 

The editing toolbar appears when I click in the note area, but the insert cursor does not appear. Trying to type there anyway causes a "thunk" sound with each key I hit. 

[Jackolicious 808]

Regarding stability, it has nothing to do with the state of your account (sadly crashes affect free/premium/business ). What I can say is that our crash reporting system has gotten MUCH better and we will be fixing the most frequent crashes with super-human speed!

[Dan Wilson 85]

Seems all of the URLs for linked notes have changed. None of my links to other EN notes (classic style) work any longer. This is really bad for me. Beta upgraders, beware

 

Not having this issue at all.  I tested links to notes going back to 2012 and all of them work.

[JMichaelTX 4,104]

 

• We’ve closed over 500 bugs including more than 150 types of crashes.

 

Jack,

 

First, thank you very much for fixing sooooooo many bugs.

 

Fixing bugs is always my FIRST priority, and I hope it is yours as well.

 

Thanks for being so candid, but I have to say, WOW!   500 bugs?????   150 crashes????

 

Please help me understand how the bug list could ever have grown to 500?

 

In January 2014, your CEO Phil Libin made a public commitment to providing a more stable, bug-free app.

I strongly support this policy/priority.  

 

As always, Jack, your candor is highly valued.

[jayelevy 5]

jayelevy, we haven't experienced this. We'll verify. Thanks.

 

I realize this does not provide any insight for troubleshooting, but here's a simple example of one note. All of my links have changed.

 

before installing Beta: evernote:///view/8898335/s81/local/x-coredata://F26ECE9E-975E-42D5-BC74-98C25D27A707/ENNote/p17983/

after installing Beta: evernote:///view/8898335/s81/local/x-coredata://5D5AB38F-0261-4604-A434-00110606F914/ENNote/p2536/

 

 

Any thoughts on the other post regarding certain AppleScript no longer working?

[jayelevy 5]

Loaded Beta 3 this a.m. Prior to this update (though I skipped Beta 2), I was able to drag an Apple mail message from Apple mail into an EN note and bring over the full email (.eml file). As of Beta 3, when I do this action, EN is only including a URL back to the original message. Assuming this was a product change, this is a significant step backward. No longer can I store a message I want to save with a note independent of Apple Mail. Please tell me this capability was not removed!!

 

Any feedback on this issue?

[Dan Wilson 85]

Are these links for notes within the Evernote client?  I thought you meant URLs for shared notes.

 

[Metrodon 2,162]

I wouldn't delete the Old folder in your case - it seems to me that the upgrade process is not exactly smooth in this beta even if it is presented as being so to the user.

 

I'd suggest opening a support ticket as they may have a graceful solution although my guess is that instead they'll just get you to reinstall. Make sure you have any local notebooks backed up first.