(Archived) Bulk Note Editing most needed feature on Mobile Clients

[rockky 32]

Bulk deleting and bulk movement to Notebooks and tagging are the single functional elements missing on mobile clients that would most enhance our Evernote data management.

I've proposed this going on 3 years now.

For the life of me I don't understand how this is bypassed....and of course per Evernote's lack of responses to users regarding these matters, I suppose it's just an ongoing crapshoot waiting out its implementation. 

[gazumped 9,810]

Evernote's lack of response on requested features shouldn't be a surprise - they've never commented on future plans (apart from Uncle Phil's occasional forecasts).  So yes,  it's a question of wait and see...

 

As a matter of interest,  what's your use case for this?  

[rockky 32]

I didn't say it was a surprise. 

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

Bulk deleting and bulk movement to Notebooks and tagging are the single functional elements missing on mobile clients that would most enhance our Evernote data management.

I've proposed this going on 3 years now.

For the life of me I don't understand how this is bypassed....and of course per Evernote's lack of responses to users regarding these matters, I suppose it's just an ongoing crapshoot waiting out its implementation.

 

 

In addition to not publishing their roadmap or ETAs, they do not publish why they've chosen to incorporate certain features (or not) or why features are a low priority.  (Nor do they need to.)

 

 

 

However it is really annoying that no one at Evernote seems to be listening to a request that has been made over and over again by its users.

Of course they listen. However, listening doesn't mean they will give it a high priority or even put it on their to do list.

 

[megsaint 441]

I'm a big fan of picking the tool that does the job I need done now, not one that may do it in the future. Waiting and hoping that Evernote will agree that this is an essential feature will certainly lead to loss of productivity now and ongoing frustration.

Best of luck.

[rockky 32]

Please..there's no productivity lost waiting for answers to product needs. Why would that happen? It does do the job....but managing your app data without said feature is tedious. Period. Most apps like this have bulk movement of items.

.I've worked with many productivity apps and the majority interact to some degree with users regarding feature needs. 

A few have an ongoing prioritized development feature list that 'could change at anytime' but rarely does. 

Very nice to have that. 

Others interact with generic nebulous responses to feature question.

If it's not gonna happen soon they say it.

If it's a few months away they say it. (Usually no reasoning given, smartly). You might not like it but at least you know their direction.

Evernote product development's wall of silence is just plain ignorant from a customer relations standpoint. 

It can easily be done with no commitment made regarding anything whatsoever....

[rockky 32]

'Of course they listen. However, listening doesn't mean they will give it a high priority or even put it on their to do list."

In communication, listening implies some kind of response....less your deaf,dumb,or rude.

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

'Of course they listen. However, listening doesn't mean they will give it a high priority or even put it on their to do list."In communication, listening implies some kind of response....less your deaf,dumb,or rude.

Listening doesn't imply anything other than listening.

[rockky 32]

"As a matter of interest, what's your use case for this?"

(I use the app 95% of the time.

Sometimes just cleaning up a Notebook as I'm getting ready to share it: adding items,taking items out . have to do it one at a time.

I have a 'Depository' Notebook that clients send things project-related to, and I then move to other Notebooks or email out.

It's TEN times longer having to do it one note at a time vs say bulk mailing the notes.

[rockky 32]

"Listening doesn't imply anything other than listening."

Uggh..your obviously dumbed down to working with people who listen to your requests and concerns and just don't respond.

When the content listened to includes a question, concern, request etc,....it most certainly does. ...at least in civil communication...less of course ones deaf,dumb or rude.

[megsaint 441]

Listening is just that, listening. You seem to be referring to what is often referred to as "active listening". Many of us just call it conversation. Evernote has never promised that here.

And, please, the "mentally challenged" are frequently quite a bit more kind, empathetic than some posters in this thread. Using "mentally challenged" as an insult is akin to using a racial or ethnic slur. The same is true of implying that the Deaf are somehow incapable of communication. Please don't do it.

[rockky 32]

It was a tongue in cheek comment to someone who says it's acceptable to just not respond when 'listening' to a question or concern. It's not. It's poor civil and business practice.

This thread is now going in circles unnecessarily.

I KNOW Evernote has never "promised" responses to user requests of these kinds. Obviously.

My point is that in managing a product, especially one in which users manage their personal/business data, if not their lives, they are REMISS in not responding, in even the most generic manner, to feature needs and questions from their users. If bulk data actions are not on the horizon, fine, SAY it. At least I know it. Period. I can't think of any venture arena where this would be remotely acceptable.

Why responders here wouldn't at least say 'yes that would be helpful, preferred, prudent and instead defend the policy is an insult to the many here who have voiced this in a rational manner.

[megsaint 441]

It was a tongue in cheek comment to someone who says it's acceptable to just not respond when 'listening' to a question or concern.

Whether or not it was "tongue in cheek" is irrelevant. It was inappropriate, uncivil and rude. The denigration of large groups of people for the sake of humor will not be countenanced.

 

]Why responders here wouldn't at least say 'yes that would be helpful, preferred, prudent and instead defend the policy is an insult to the many here who have voiced this in a rational manner.

Perhaps because they don't agree with you?

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

It was a tongue in cheek comment to someone who says it's acceptable to just not respond when 'listening' to a question or concern. It's not. It's poor civil and business practice.

In addition to being a lame defense, it's also the one pretty much everyone uses when called on the carpet for this type of personal attack. Use a racial slur? Hey, it's "just a comment".

This thread is now going in circles unnecessarily.

I KNOW Evernote has never "promised" responses to user requests of these kinds. Obviously.

My point is that in managing a product, especially one in which users manage their personal/business data, if not their lives, they are REMISS in not responding, in even the most generic manner, to feature needs and questions from their users. If bulk data actions are not on the horizon, fine, SAY it. At least I know it. Period. I can't think of any venture arena where this would be remotely acceptable.

Why responders here wouldn't at least say 'yes that would be helpful, preferred, prudent and instead defend the policy is an insult to the many here who have voiced this in a rational manner.

Please point out where I've "defended" Evernote's policy. I'm pretty sure I've not b/c I haven't even thought about it enough to make a determination if I think it's good or bad. There are pros & cons to both scenarios. What I have done is state what Evernote does. The fact that you disagree with it is irrelevant to me & is no excuse for you to resort to tactics that go against the forum code of conduct.

[megsaint 441]

Unfortunately, with the unclear quoting and the oddly huge font, it's almost impossible to understand what the point of this post is.

[rockky 32]

To last 2 posts by this poster b

"Please point out where I've "defended" Evernote's policy. I'm pretty sure I've not b/c I haven't even thought about it enough to make a determination if I think it's good or bad. There are pros & cons to both scenarios. What I have done is state what Evernote does. The fact that you disagree with it is irrelevant to me & is no excuse for you to resort to tactics that go against the forum code of conduct."

 

 It WAS tongue in cheek....Mentally challenged is not mentally disabled. I work with mentally disabled so amended the post for those misinterpreting. So reread..and stop changing the focus....

WHICH was Bulk editing believe it or not;-) 

Since it got shifted to those concerned about my one sentence;-) about Evernote's lack of response frustration:

" What I have done is state what Evernote does".  I KNOW what  Evernote does! ...obviously from my post! . . Sorry but you added nothing. . I don't like their policy it and will restate that at times.

I stand by my final statement:

"My response was  to someone who says it's acceptable to just not respond when 'listening' to a question or concern.

It's not. It's poor civil and business practice.
This thread is now going in circles unnecessarily.
I KNOW Evernote has never "promised" responses to user requests of these kinds. Obviously.
My point is that in managing a product, especially one in which users manage their personal/business data, if not their lives, they are REMISS in not responding, in even the most generic manner, to feature needs and questions from their users. If bulk data actions are not on the horizon, fine, SAY it. At least I know it. Period. I can't think of any venture arena where this would be remotely acceptable.
Why responders here wouldn't at least say 'yes that would be helpful, preferred, prudent and instead defend the policy is an insult to the many here who have voiced this in a rational manner. "

[megsaint 441]

Oh, I didn't realize that you were just repeating a post that you'd already made, just with a bigger font. I still don't understand why but I no longer feel any need to.

Best of luck.

[jefito 5,586]

OK, this thread seems to be spinning way off topic. Time to tone it down. The salient facts are:

* The feature requested is reasonable, and the use case seems clear. Whether it's the most needed feature is of course open for debate (I could nominate one or two others that I'd prefer seeing), but the feature is undeniably useful.

Evernote's policy is clear and well-known to all concerned. We, the user community didn't make the policy, some people don't like it, Evernote knows this, but they've pretty much stuck to it. It is what it is, and there's no need to yell about it.

In my opinion, (and as was noted), this thread is pretty well played out / going in circles. But that's not an excuse for letting it go any further off the rails. Take that for what you will.

[rockky 32]

Evernote Evangelist : Thank you. That pretty much encapsulates it.  You know back in the beginning I worked hand in hand with Phil Libin on a search bug they were dealing with. Was so impressed! Since then of course, Evernote has created a wall between users and their expressed feature needs...which has obviously been frustrating to me. I think its poor. 

So I throw that frustration out there every now and then. Not real often ;-) 

It's going to exacerbate that frustration by responders just reiterating Evernote's policy and in effect saying deal with it. I already do that, all do....no other choice! 

If you agree the policy could be better chime in. If not, no real reason to post. 

Thanks 

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

If you agree the policy could be better chime in. If not, no real reason to post.

So, in other words, only those who agree with you should post...??? How fair is that?

And that's not even the topic of this thread.

You know back in the beginning I worked hand in hand with Phil Levin.

Who?

[rockky 32]

I posted 2 items really so that 1.forum members can see and respond and 2. The Evernote powers that be in the etherworld somewhere might see or might not,also. 

A. Bulk movement of data and

B.allude to the frustration of not having a mechanism to register features with responses from Evernote. 

So it's obvious I know what Evernote's present policy is, and their reasoning

So.coming in to the thread and reiterating their policy doesn't make sense and will up the frustration level. 

I don't think anyone would disagree that the mobile bulk feature would be immensely helpful for predominantly mobile users ...maybe not a priority tho..argue that,.fine. 

I think everyone would agree, like Catch had, GTD GTD, Springpad, IQTell, Wunderlist etc etc who had communication structures set up ("get satisfaction" for example) for users would be nice to have. 

I think when involving peoples work/personal data it's poor NOT to have it. Not have at least generic ('no guarantee') responses of developmental direction. 

What's to disagree with? But go ahead if you like. Have insight, reasoning or info I might not know of pertaining to it? ...please add. 

I put it out more as a statement....every few months....and have formally put it in a ticket years ago

All done here ;-) 

[Martin Packer 162]

To the extent this post still has legs... :-)

 

Autoever on iOS does mass tagging and moving for me.

[rockky 32]

Umm. Obviously Libin... Auto corrector... Unchecked 

[rockky 32]

To the extent this post still has legs... :-)

 

Autoever on iOS does mass tagging and moving for me.

You mean IPhone? Hmm didn't know that. 

[Martin Packer 162]

Yes, @rockky. I run AutoEver on my iPhone.