Traveling Man 2 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I use Evernote to take all my business meeting notes. I need to email these notes to folks and emailing a link isn't acceptable in my business. So, I try to either (1) C&P the note directly into Outlook or (2) Export Note to HTML and then C&P that into Outlook. In both cases, I run into a terribly annoying situation - when pasted into Outlook I get an extra bullet per indent level. Here is what it looks like in Evernote: START TEST TEST TEST 2 TEST 2 TEST END Here is what it looks like when pasted (or exported and pasted): START TEST TEST TEST 2 TEST 2 TEST END By the way, the export to HTML looks fine. It's when I paste into Outlook. I have dealt with this for years. It's the reason I started using ONENOTE for a long time. I recently came back to Evernote and it still has the same problem. This does not happen when I C&P from Word, ONENOTE, WEBPAGES, so I don't think it's an Outlook issue. Fixing this would literally make this product perfect for me. It it remains broken I might have to find another solution as almost every note I write I email. HELP!!!! Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted August 26, 2013 Level 5* Share Posted August 26, 2013 Hi - do you have Word as well? As far as I know C&P from Word into notes works fine, and if you attach a file to the note too, you could cut and paste from that into Outlook - which should then be OK. You have the content of your notes visible but just have to remember to use the Word file for edits. Try submitting a support request (see below) to see if there's a more direct solution. Link to comment
Traveling Man 2 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hi - do you have Word as well? As far as I know C&P from Word into notes works fine, and if you attach a file to the note too, you could cut and paste from that into Outlook - which should then be OK. You have the content of your notes visible but just have to remember to use the Word file for edits. Try submitting a support request (see below) to see if there's a more direct solution.Thank you gazumped for the shot-on-goal. Unfortunately, it happens when a C&P into Word as well. I have submitted a Support Request. I can't believe I am the only who's experienced this. I've seen it for year - on XP machines, Win 7 machines. Thanks Again Link to comment
picard01 2 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hi, I have experienced the same problems since I use Evernote on Win XP or Win 7 with both Office 2003 and Office 2010. Now, in a new company (Win 7, Office 2003), it happens that also some other characters appear in addition. Most of the time it's the degree-sign "°"....but this happens without regularity and the reason why could be the beta version which i'm currently using. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted August 28, 2013 Level 5* Share Posted August 28, 2013 Hmmn. Sorry to hear that. Can't believe this is a very common problem otherwise there'd be a few more posts here.. please let us know when you find a resolution! Link to comment
mqheel 0 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think this highlights a basic issue I've seen raised before and why I have to use OneNote for business...inserting Evernote notes directly into Outlook email vs sharing a public link, which doesn't work for many businesses. Evernote used to allow me to attach notes directly into Outlook emails in a nice format (clear it was an Evernote note so I actually got others to sign up - a perk for Evernote). Then they discontinued for some reason, which wasn't clear to me. Does the SDK still support this? Maybe someone could develop a product around this. Link to comment
StuartG 16 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I've got a slightly different problem, using V5 beta and Outlook 2010, though just tried in Word and it's the same. When I paste in the fonts go wrong - it changes some parts from Tahoma in the EN note to Times New Roman in Outlook, and generally increases the sizes of fonts (e.g. from 10 to 13.5). I often have to spend another 5 or 10 minutes making it up to an acceptable standard to send the email. Anyone else get this, or could it be an issue with the beta (in which case I'll raise it there) Link to comment
robwest 2 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 +1 I have this problem with Evernote 5.0.2.1392 and Outlook 2013 and have had it for several versions back of both products. So annoying. Almost as annoying as pasting a bulleted list within Evernote getting the double-bullet on the first line issue I've also been reading about! Anybody want Evernote to slow down on the interface changes and fix the text editor, which is still leagues behind OneNote (dynamic tables, anyone?) At least make it paste verbatim between apps. There's gotta be a standard RTF control, right? I LOVE EN, but miss the sweetness of OneNote's text editing capabilities. I sometimes have to work on a Windows machine (gasp!) and my experience there has always been somewhat lacking in polish, even given the recent updates to the EN client. Link to comment
C.Magyar 0 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I use EverNote dialy on my Windows 7 PC, but also regularly on my iPad 4 and IPhone 5 (both IOS 6). One of the things I do daily is to keep logs of team member status reports, which I enter into EverNote using the outlining mechanism - basic bullets and indents. I send a daily summary of the team's activity out using Outlook, weekly updates, product release status reports., etc. When I copy from EverNote to an Outlook 365 email. the formatting gets all screwy, with extra empty bullets being added each time there is a level of nested bullets. Also, the font size changes from a source in EverNote of Calibri 11 to a destination in Outlook Calibri 13.5. This happens regardless of whether I set the Outlook email format to Pain Text, Rich Text or HTML. This is unacceptable. The whole point of using EverNote is that it allows me to use the device that is available to me (especially when travelling) to access a shared set of documents. Interopoerability with the Microsoft Office suite is pretty fundamental. A few lines like are shown below is not a big deal to correct, but several pages of outlining sent one or more times a day that require font changes and hand elimination of 'extra bullets' is pretty irritating - enough that I am contemplating going back to Word and forgoing the benefits of EverNote. Note to mention that the outlining in evernote has bugs, especially with an intermittent 'floating extra bullet' artifact that is very difficult or impossible to remove. BeforeAaronEAS 4.6Got the new 4.6 to my sandboxSetup new Capri (4.6) on my computer AfterAaronEAS 4.6 Got the new 4.6 to my sandboxSetup new Capri (4.6) on my computer Link to comment
Bakan 0 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 +1 I've got the same problem. Not just extra bullets also fonts and sizes are changing. I also got this weird problem. If there is a table within email there is no chance to get well formatted export. Tables must be copied manually from outlook to evernote. This has started after last update. Also all my previously exported tables are gone. They were turned into something like below I'm gonna give up using Evernote just for this. It's just very annoying. Link to comment
David L 0 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 +1 for me. I really like Evernote and recommend it to others regularly, but I rely on bullets extensively in my notes and this is very annoying. Is there a fix in the works? Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted November 11, 2013 Level 5* Share Posted November 11, 2013 AFAIK there's no 'fix' as such since Evernote isn't actually broken if a paste into or from another document format doesn't play well - it's an incompatibility that Evernote may or may not be able to do anything about. And even if they're looking into whether they can - (all together now) "Evernote don't share their plans" so we'll only find out when it's fixed. Meantime it's possible to attach files into Notes, so if other word processors exist that will generate files which can be opened by apps on all the devices you're using, you can use it as an interface between Outlook and Evernote to do a copy & paste into the WP and save the resulting file in the Note. You may even find that copy/ pasting into the WP will take out whatever extraneous characters are causing the problem and show your copy accurately, so copy to WP and copy paste again to/ from the destination... Link to comment
JSA 3 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Hey all - I've been having this same 'extra bullet point' problem for a bit now, and finally figured out a work-around. From the desktop version, if you go to the 'FORMAT' tab and select 'SIMPLIFY FORMATTING' (apparently also CTRL + SPACE), and then send it as email to Outlook, the bullets are gone! I've tried it out a couple times and it does seem to work! -JSA Link to comment
mtruman 2 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I've recently begun using Evernote for much more than I had been. Having all of my content on all my devices is incredibly useful. Unfortunately I've run into exactly the same problem that's being discussed here (and in several other threads as well). Copying from Evernote PC (v 5) and Office 10 (Word, Outlook, PPT) causes formatting to become very screwed up. Bullet lists mis-formatted, fonts and font sizes seemingly randomly changed, etc. Since my adoption of Evernote for increased use a work, I really need these features. My current workaround has been to select the text pasted from Evernote in my Office application and then to reformat the font and size (at minimum) and manually fix any other issues like incorrect bullet lists. As noted by JSA, the Simplify Formatting does seem to help with misformatted bullets at least most of the time (but it's still a pain). I have to +1 the other comments that say that when to copy/paste from one PC application that supports rich text formatting into another one on the same platform that also does, the formatting should be correctly carried over. I've honestly hardly ever had to deal with this in any other PC applications - they nearly all work 100% correctly (at least for simple stuff like this). I should also note that I have the same general issue copy/pasting between Evernote and browser based application (e.g., Gmail), where once again formatting in copy/paste from other apps works correctly. This is not just on the PC. Same issue on the iPad and iPhone versions where copy/paste from Evernote to browser apps (and other iOS native apps like Gmail) have the same problem. I love Evernote for everything else that it does for me, but really hope that this is something that's being addressed in future versions - Mark Link to comment
BMWBryan 1 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I have had the same issue for years. I chatted with support and they claim it is a know bug and that they are working on it. They could not give a timeline as to when it would be fixed, however. The response was pretty lame. I have been using Evernote for 7 years now and love it but the need to reformat notes is problematic. Actually, the bullet/formatting issue between Evernote and Outlook may be the deal breaker that prohibits our company of 50 people from using Evernote for Business. Too bad - I really want this to work! Anyone out there listening?!? Bryan Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted December 5, 2013 Level 5* Share Posted December 5, 2013 I'm told the editor is (at last) having its wheels kicked, though it may only be in the Beta versions at present. There is progress - hang in there if you can! Link to comment
RichL 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I have the same issue and it's been driving me crazy for a long time. Glad to see I'm not alone. EV 5.1.0.2046Win7Office 2k10 Link to comment
RichL 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hey all - I've been having this same 'extra bullet point' problem for a bit now, and finally figured out a work-around. From the desktop version, if you go to the 'FORMAT' tab and select 'SIMPLIFY FORMATTING' (apparently also CTRL + SPACE), and then send it as email to Outlook, the bullets are gone! I've tried it out a couple times and it does seem to work! -JSAGood to know there is a workaround. Link to comment
thatguyBG 0 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I've had this issue for a while as well and agree with the sentiments: Evernote is great, but this is truly a deal-breaking flaw. I get the feeling that it is a Microsoft bug though.. I tested it out, and both Apple Mail for iOS7 and Gmail render shares and copy/pastes of bulleted notes from Evernote perfectly fine. It seems as though only Outlook(2010) has this problem. I don't have Outlook 2013 yet, but I hope they've solved this problem. Link to comment
ScottLougheed 1,316 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I have had issues copy and pasting from Evernote into Microsoft Word for Mac, and the issue sounds similar to your Outlook for Windows problem. You can try Paste and Match Style... I don't know what the Windows hotkey is, but that resolves my issues pasting into Word. Link to comment
mtruman 2 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I've had this issue for a while as well and agree with the sentiments: Evernote is great, but this is truly a deal-breaking flaw. I get the feeling that it is a Microsoft bug though.. I tested it out, and both Apple Mail for iOS7 and Gmail render shares and copy/pastes of bulleted notes from Evernote perfectly fine. It seems as though only Outlook(2010) has this problem. I don't have Outlook 2013 yet, but I hope they've solved this problem. I have Office 2013 and the latest version of Evernote (5.2.1) and the problem still exists. Extra bullets issue is still there and the font size isn't used in the paste (e.g., Tahoma 10 in Evernote pastes as Tahoma 13.5 in Office). Problem exists both in Word and Outlook Link to comment
ScottLougheed 1,316 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I've had this issue for a while as well and agree with the sentiments: Evernote is great, but this is truly a deal-breaking flaw. I get the feeling that it is a Microsoft bug though.. I tested it out, and both Apple Mail for iOS7 and Gmail render shares and copy/pastes of bulleted notes from Evernote perfectly fine. It seems as though only Outlook(2010) has this problem. I don't have Outlook 2013 yet, but I hope they've solved this problem. I have Office 2013 and the latest version of Evernote (5.2.1) and the problem still exists. Extra bullets issue is still there and the font size isn't used in the paste (e.g., Tahoma 10 in Evernote pastes as Tahoma 13.5 in Office). Problem exists both in Word and Outlook did you try my "paste and match style" suggestion? That has often worked for me when extra bullets appear. Link to comment
JWDayton 0 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 This is still happening. Very aggravating. Link to comment
matt.joyce 0 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 This is still happening. Always has for me. Pasting to outlook, notepad, word.Always extra bullets, and extra lines. Using Simply Formatting before copying, does work. But why? Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted July 3, 2014 Level 5* Share Posted July 3, 2014 There have been improvements with indenting and bullets, but pasting from other formats and converting to an Evernote note is still a complex and occasionally glitchy process. Removing formatting just makes it easier. Link to comment
lindseywaugh 0 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I have the same problem and hope they are trying to fix it. I spend too much time reformatting to email out my notes. Simplify formatting does work to fix the extra bullet problem, but it still changes my font to 13.5 (but this is quick to fix so I can live with it). Remembering to simplify formatting each time I send a note shouldn't be necessary, though! Link to comment
Paid Member 1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Yeah, this problem is pretty rampant. I don't believe its an office issue. Like other users I have tried it with Word, Notepad, Notepad++, Outlook and they all have the same issue. Please fix it. Link to comment
jwbtx 0 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Whats the latest on this? Hell, you cant even C/P in Evernote itself w/o out it placing mysterious bullets and fudging up the formatting. jwb Link to comment
Rock Whitney 0 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 This is by far the most annoying bug I am dealing with. I love Evernote but this is definitely making me want to use OneNote. The "paste and match style" doesn't work for me either. PLEASE FIX THIS. Link to comment
feldpauschRVA 2 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I agree with posts that this is a major pain. Keeping meeting notes in Evernote is great, sharing them is painful for the reasons stated in this discussion. This issue is hands down the most dissapointing thing in Evernote for me. Link to comment
sseubert 0 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'm so surprised and disappointed that this is still an issue after so long.When I need to take my note content and post it into an email I find my self going to Google Docs, pasting it into a document there, and then copying it pasting it from there to my email or Word document. Link to comment
KristofRe 0 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 +1Love evernote but this gets me angry every single time... Link to comment
ganeshran 0 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 This is a huge irritant when using Evernote + Outlook. Please fix this Link to comment
Jacob Eeckhout 0 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'm heavily using Evernote as my meeting minutes. When copying to my project management tool (team collaboration) the formatting was messed up. The solution from JSA -simplify formatting- works for me! Thanks a lot! Link to comment
feldpauschRVA 2 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Is there a way to have "simply formatting" happen or be set as a default or does it have to be selected every time you want to email a note? Link to comment
Level 5* JMichaelTX 4,117 Posted February 9, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 hours ago, feldpauschRVA said: Is there a way to have "simply formatting" happen or be set as a default or does it have to be selected every time you want to email a note? There is no option for automatic application of "simplify formatting". It is only needed when you copy, or web clip, text that contains complicated formatting. When you use the Web Clipper, you can choose "Simplified Article" which may help. Link to comment
feldpauschRVA 2 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 at 9:55 PM, JMichaelTX said: There is no option for automatic application of "simplify formatting". It is only needed when you copy, or web clip, text that contains complicated formatting. When you use the Web Clipper, you can choose "Simplified Article" which may help. Apparently, as this whole thread points out, the other time you need "simplify formatting" is if you want to email a note that happens to contain a bulleted list. I wouldn't think of a bulleted list as "complicated" but apparently it is. It would be great if the dialog that comes up to email a note had a checkbox or something so you could simplify the formatting in the process of sending the email. Emailing a note and having it look decent in the email application would make a number of folks pretty happy as this thread can attest. If "simplify formatting" can accomplish that, can we somehow include "simplify formatting" into the email process? thanks Link to comment
Kottonballs 0 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Also a problem for me. I'm considering leaving Evernote because of it. Link to comment
Amos K 0 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I have the same issue as the OP with EN 6.1.2 and Outlook 2016. Here's my workaround: Position the cursor to the right of any extra blank bullet. Hit CTRL-SHIFT-L, which removes the bad bullet Hit Delete, which removes the extra lines. It's a pain, but manageable. Someone with more time than me should export to HTML and then use trial and error to edit the HTML and find out why MS Office is inserting bad bullets. Then one could do a find & replace on the HTML file to remove the bad bits. Link to comment
ChrisInSpace 0 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I don't normally post to threads this old, but in this case, I think it proves a point. Here we are in 2017 and this STILL hasn't been resolved. 3 and a half years after the original post (I'm sure the bug itself is older than that) and we're still having to rely on work-arounds and manual correction. Devs...please...this is a huge pain and prevents me from efficiently sharing my notes with my co-workers that are not on EN. I am the CIO of my company. I love the application, but until this and the clunky collaboration system have been addressed, I cannot recommend this to my organization or consider EN Business. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted January 25, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted January 25, 2017 Hi. I've posted this in a few threads around here, so apologies if you've seen it before but: Long story short - the original apps were developed by independent teams with instructions to 'do the best you can with your platform'. Their designs were for basic editors without frills - little more than plain text plus any easy add-ins they could find within a deadline. Problem was their editors were baked in platform specific code so adding further options would have been a root-and-branch exercise in Android. And a different one for iOS, and Mac, Windows and Web. So they recoded the whole app for all OS's so that all editor modules were the same; a 'Common Editor' with links into every OS-specific code. Now improvements could be added to all devices at more like the same time without completely separate development teams. It took a while, finishing the initial releases in 2016. Things have gotten a little better. They say there's more to follow... Link to comment
Hauke Hansen 0 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 The issue seems to be even worse on a Mac. Copy / Paste from / to a Mac just does not work: Indents disappear, bullets are messed up and a perfectly well structured email with bullet-points virtually becomes unreadable once pasted into evernote. Really annoying and a core productivity killer. Any solution in sight? Link to comment
Rheume 0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I can't remember the last time I actually signed up to participate in a thread. I'm sorry but I just never do for some reason. But I continue to have this issue on my Mac and it is truly becoming a productivity killer, always having to try to c&p from Outlook into Word and then into EN to see if the formatting remains. I've been annoyed for years like many, suffered silently, and, for whatever reason, it hit a threshold today. Searching around, there are other similar thread along these lines for YEARS. Perhaps I missed the solution, in which I am sorry to take up space and would appreciate any guidance. Otherwise, I just want to throw my hat in the ring to say that this remains a problem; so much so, that I'm seriously considering abandoning ship. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted April 14, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hi. Evernote have been working for years on Editor issues (see my longer post above) but there's still a ways to go. You should find this will get better, but Evernote don't give timescales for this sort of thing... Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted April 14, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/10/2017 at 4:32 AM, Hauke Hansen said: The issue seems to be even worse on a Mac. You should post complaints / issues / suggestions in a Mac-specific forum, probably its Product Feedback forum. This forum is Windows-specific. Link to comment
teristevens 0 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Any update on this topic as I noticed most of the notes are outdated. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,652 Posted May 14, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 11/05/2017 at 3:58 PM, teristevens said: Any update on this topic as I noticed most of the notes are outdated. Hi. The most recent comments are a month old but there have been newer version updates on most OS's since then - what's your device, your OS and Evernote version, and what issue are you seeing with your notes? Link to comment
Karl BULEON 1 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Still having the problem in June 2017. But i can confirm the workaround "Simplify format" in Evernote before copy works. Link to comment
mhorner7 0 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 FWIW - I have this same issue on Mac. Going from Evernote app to Outlook the formatting is terrible. I found a simple workaround by opening the web client editor and copying directly from there into my Outlook. Hope this helps others and hopefully I am not spamming this again... read most of the thread but did not see this suggestion. Hope we get a solution for the desktop app. Link to comment
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