(Archived) Note inheritance / folders

[Chris Beeson 0]

About a year ago I put out a post requesting evernote allowed notes to be sorted in nested folders and allow notes to be related to other notes in a hierarchy based system.

 

EG, If I'm looking to buy a new house then one note 'New house' would allow would be my gateway into research with a folder system which I can add notes to.

 

But I was shot down....  NO WAY -  TAGS are the future.

 

A year later I sit here struggling with tags, I HATE THEM.   

 

Sure if you want to find something off the cuff TAGS  they are great, but if I want to follow a train of thought they are useless!  

 

I would remember more about my house moving research than the tags if I needed to recall.

 

I hate that there can only be one notebook with in a notebook stack,

 

THERE SHOULD BE NOTES WITHIN NOTES.  COMPLIMENTLED BY TAGS.

 

TAGS SHOULD NOT RULE US.

 

I would love evernote to support nesting notes within notes in a tree form.  

[Metrodon 2,188]

Evernote have made a design decision, there has been no indication that this is going to change, the fact that new major updates to the Mac and iOS clients continue to follow the same model further reinforces this.

 

This has been discussed a lot on here, the basic answer is if you don't like this type of taxonomy then really Evernote isn't the product for you.

[jefito 5,598]

Aside from the the Indisputable Metrodon said, there is one thing that you can do: use note links to group notes together. When were looking to buy a new house last year, I did this a fair amount with house listings. I also do this with work projects. You just keep a master note, and paste note links into it as needed. In Windows, at least, you can multi-select a bunch of notes in the note list, right-click and select Copy Note Links, then paste them en masse into your master note. I also use tags a fair bit, but a master note allows you to order your related links into some kind of narrative, if that's what you need.

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

About a year ago I put out a post requesting evernote allowed notes to be sorted in nested folders and allow notes to be related to other notes in a hierarchy based system.

 

EG, If I'm looking to buy a new house then one note 'New house' would allow would be my gateway into research with a folder system which I can add notes to.

 

But I was shot down....  NO WAY -  TAGS are the future.

 

A year later I sit here struggling with tags, I HATE THEM.   

 

Sure if you want to find something off the cuff TAGS  they are great, but if I want to follow a train of thought they are useless!  

 

I would remember more about my house moving research than the tags if I needed to recall.

 

I hate that there can only be one notebook with in a notebook stack,

 

THERE SHOULD BE NOTES WITHIN NOTES.  COMPLIMENTLED BY TAGS.

 

TAGS SHOULD NOT RULE US.

 

I would love evernote to support nesting notes within notes in a tree form.  

I don't know what you mean about being "shot down". As I said in this post:

http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/28516-250-notebooks-is-not-enough/?p=195498

[Chris Beeson 0]

I love evernote.  I use it all the time.  My whole life is in it.  

 

I just wish I could connect notes in a clever way.

 

Perhaps I should start a petition.

[floid 8]

I love evernote.  I use it all the time.  My whole life is in it.  

 

I just wish I could connect notes in a clever way.

 

Perhaps I should start a petition.

 

 

The master note with note links inside is something I use to pull together a "file" (e.g. my house papers).

 

You may also want to give some more thought to your tag system.   Tags became a lot more user friendly to me once I created a good naming convention.   For example, all my projects have the naming convention "prj-project 1", "prj-project 2", etc.   I also group information for my vendors using a similar system "ven-microsoft", "ven-salesforce", "ven-oracle", etc.  and on down the line. 

[Analyst444 182]

Chris, I am responding to your comment, "I just wish I could connect notes in a clever way" earlier today.

 

That's what Tags are for. Develop a unique Tag for the Notes that you want to connect and then assign that Tag to each of the Notes. (There's a couple different ways to do it.) Then, you can do a search on the Tag that you created and only those Notes will pop up.

 

It's that simple, but I must be missing something. The other people who responded to your posts in this thread didn't suggest this idea and they are far more knowledgable and experienced with Evernote than I am.

 

If I go back to your first post on this, you indicated you wanted to create Notes related to your desire to buy a house. Another approach might be to create a Notebook named, "New House" and put all your Notes in it?

[jefito 5,598]

It's that simple, but I must be missing something. The other people who responded to your posts in this thread didn't suggest this idea and they are far more knowledgable and experienced with Evernote than I am.

There are many ways to organize notes effectively in Evernote, and there's lots of topics in the forum that detail them. I could suggest some, but frankly I need to sense that the person I'm helping is actually interested in learning something about Evernote. I'm not getting that feeling here, nor do I think that they are interested in tags as a solution. That's why I suggested note links.

[BurgersNFries 2,407]

It's that simple, but I must be missing something. The other people who responded to your posts in this thread didn't suggest this idea and they are far more knowledgable and experienced with Evernote than I am.

There are many ways to organize notes effectively in Evernote, and there's lots of topics in the forum that detail them. I could suggest some, but frankly I need to sense that the person I'm helping is actually interested in learning something about Evernote. I'm not getting that feeling here, nor do I think that they are interested in tags as a solution. That's why I suggested note links.

 

Yeah, the topic has been discussed to death.  Some users are interested in getting answers.  Others are interested in getting the answer they want.  Which is ok.  Except that the only purpose regularly grousing about a feature you want only serves two purposes. 

 

1) May make the user feel better.

2) Chews up bandwidth.

[Chris Beeson 0]

So if this topic has been discussed to death then obviously it's a feature people want.

 

I am writing this hoping that evernote actually does market research by reading these forums and perhaps one-day they will consider it further, which would dramatically increase my productively and increase my love for the product.  It's a win, win situation and it certainly isn't to make me feel better about myself. 

 

I will waste a little more bit of bandwidth on this matter, I think it's my right as a paying customer.

 

Evernote are actually touching on the matter by adding the related notes feature to the bottom of notes.  This however is automatic and most of the time the notes aren't really that well related.  If only I could add my own related notes then thats the problem solved.  Beautifully (and that's what it's all about isn't?)

[jefito 5,598]

@Chris Beeson: You bet it's your right as an Evernote user to make your preferences known. I don't think that anyone disputes that. My usual take on feature requests like these, though, is that you need to work with the Evernote that exists today, and not the Evernote that you wish you had. That being said, folks here can help you do that if you have questions about good ways to go about using Evernote in many scenarios. Just ask.

 

BTW: to add related notes, you can use tags. It's really that simple. That particular problem is already solved, as best I can tell.

[phils 220]

Hi Chris,

 

In terms of a full, robust way of organizing your notes hierarchically, TuskTools Treeliner is in development which will allow you to do that.

 

 

If only I could add my own related notes then thats the problem solved.  Beautifully (and that's what it's all about isn't?)

 

Wondering if you've tried jefito's suggestion to use Note Links?  It seems like that would provide the type of solution you're describing here?

[C6REW 416]

When I am working on a project I start a new Notebook and have as many Notes in that as I see fit.

 

Once a project is completed and based on Jeff's solution of Note Links I would then put all the Notes for the project in one Note and then remove the project Notebook.

 

Regards

 

Chris