dashel 1 Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 How about a multi year subscription with a discounted lump sumpayment up front for 2,3,4 & 5 years? This may have been discussedbut I'm having problems with the google site search for the forumat present.I figure since evernote is now quite establishedI'm sure there are premium & business account holders that would not want to be bothered with annual payment reminders or be jumping hoops when they forget their renewal date or forget to update their credit card etc.
Level 5* gazumped 12,215 Posted January 27, 2013 Level 5* Posted January 27, 2013 Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.
Level 5* GrumpyMonkey 4,320 Posted January 27, 2013 Level 5* Posted January 27, 2013 How about a multi year subscription with a discounted lump sum payment up front for 2,3,4 & 5 years? This may have been discussed but I'm having problems with the google site search for the forum at present. I figure since evernote is now quite established I'm sure there are premium & business account holders that would not want to be bothered with annual payment reminders or be jumping hoops when they forget their renewal date or forget to update their credit card etc. It's a good idea, but not on the roadmap as far as I know, and Evernote has explained some of their reasoning for not rolling it out yet. http://discussion.ev...ps/#entry144901 My guess is that Evernote Century might involve discussions of something like this, so wait a bit longer http://discussion.ev...ernote-century/
dashel 1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.Crashplan backup service provides a monthly, yearly, twothree and four year prepaid packages. Its a pretty highly regarded service in its niche like Evernote is.check it out: https://www.crashplan.com/consumer/store.vtlI'm not sure what you mean by problems with tax and accounting.On evernote's side I'm sure they use accrual accounting so its prettysimple.Whether broken down quarterly, monthly or bi weekly,in evernote's internal accounting system, whenever that portionof the service has been deemed as "provided" then only that respective fraction of the total billed amount to the customer is reported as "earned" for that periodand subsequently booked as revenue.The rest of the funds initiallypaid over by the customer simply remains under customer's depositon the liability side of evernote's accounting until the total customer deposit amount has flowed to the revenue side of the balance sheet as revenue is booked after each accounting periodThis deposit can be carried forward over a number of years. Just like a loan, it gets classified as a long term liability until it goes to zero when the customerdeposit runs out.I hardly think it takes tens of thousands of dollars to change something so simple on the billing side of the software. You make it sound asthough evernote would be creating a brand new app.
Level 5* GrumpyMonkey 4,320 Posted January 27, 2013 Level 5* Posted January 27, 2013 Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.Crashplan backup service provides a monthly, yearly, twothree and four year prepaid packages. Its a pretty highlyregarded service in its niche like Evernote is.check it out: https://www.crashpla...sumer/store.vtlI'm not sure what you mean by problems with tax and accounting.On evernote's side I'm sure they use accrual accounting so its prettysimple.Whether broken down quarterly, monthly or bi weekly,in evernote's internal accounting system, whenever that portionof the service has been deemed as "provided" then only that respective fractionof the total billed amount to the customer is reported as "earned" for that periodand subsequently booked as revenue.The rest of the funds initiallypaid over by the customer simply remains under customer's depositon the liability side of evernote's accounting untilthe total customer deposit amount has flowed to the revenueside of the balance sheet as revenue is booked after each accounting periodThis deposit can be carried forward over a number of years. Just like a loan,it gets classified as a long term liability until it goes to zero when the customerdeposit runs out.I hardly think it takes tens of thousands of dollars to changesomething so simple on the billing side of the software. You make it sound asthough evernote would be creating a brand new app.I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.
dashel 1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.I did check the link but I wasn't referring to a lifetime membership,century membership or anything that grand and needing that much considerationbefore implementing.There may be powerusers that right now desperately want evernote to be their ubiquitous cloud filing cabinetfor ever and ever, but I'm not referring to those users.I am thinking way simpler. For the ordinary premium userthat wants a way to avoid the headache of this year to yeartask of monitoring their credit card and their renewal status,a multi year option would be a relatively simple implementation.Have you checked the link to crashplan that I provided ?Nothing too grandiose there. It's like signing up forfour years instead of one when getting a domain name atGodaddy.Drop dead simple is all I'm asking.
Level 5* GrumpyMonkey 4,320 Posted January 27, 2013 Level 5* Posted January 27, 2013 I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.I did check the link but I wasn't referring to a lifetime membership,century membership or anything that grand and needing that much considerationbefore implementing.There may be powerusers that right now desperately want evernote to be their ubiquitous cloud filing cabinetfor ever and ever, but I'm not referring to those users.I am thinking way simpler. For the ordinary premium userthat wants a way to avoid the headache of this year to yeartask of monitoring their credit card and their renewal status,a multi year option would be a relatively simple implementation.Have you checked the link to crashplan that I provided ?Nothing too grandiose there. It's like signing up forfour years instead of one when getting a domain name atGodaddy.Drop dead simple is all I'm asking.Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.
dashel 1 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.OK, That's interesting! know anybody who has successfully done this?Is it as simple as how you say it is? I'm willing to try that if it is.I don't need a discounted price. I don't mind paying for evernote in a three year block and priced as it is right now for a premium account.Of course that's just me.
Level 5* GrumpyMonkey 4,320 Posted January 28, 2013 Level 5* Posted January 28, 2013 Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.OK, That's interesting! know anybody who has successfully done this?Is it as simple as how you say it is? I'm willing to try that if it is.I don't need a discounted price. I don't mind paying for evernotein a three year block and priced as it is right now for a premium account.Of course that's just me.Hi. Glad I could help. It is my understanding that gift cards are cumulative, and apparently people have successfully done what I suggested. Evernote's customer support maven (Heather) said this four months ago (http://discussion.ev..._20#entry164730), but just in case, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to confirm before purchasing the gift cards. I do know that you cannot "pay" outright for multiple years (hence, your thread), but the gift card codes are the workaround for this.
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