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How about a multi year subscription with a discounted lump sum

payment up front for 2,3,4 & 5 years? This may have been discussed

but I'm having problems with the google site search for the forum

at present.

I figure since evernote is now quite established

I'm sure there are premium & business account holders that would not

want to be bothered with annual payment reminders or

be jumping hoops when they forget their renewal date

or forget to update their credit card etc.

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Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.

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How about a multi year subscription with a discounted lump sum

payment up front for 2,3,4 & 5 years? This may have been discussed

but I'm having problems with the google site search for the forum

at present.

I figure since evernote is now quite established

I'm sure there are premium & business account holders that would not

want to be bothered with annual payment reminders or

be jumping hoops when they forget their renewal date

or forget to update their credit card etc.

It's a good idea, but not on the roadmap as far as I know, and Evernote has explained some of their reasoning for not rolling it out yet. http://discussion.ev...ps/#entry144901

My guess is that Evernote Century might involve discussions of something like this, so wait a bit longer :)

http://discussion.ev...ernote-century/

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Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.

Crashplan backup service provides a monthly, yearly, two

three and four year prepaid packages. Its a pretty highly

regarded service in its niche like Evernote is.

check it out: https://www.crashplan.com/consumer/store.vtl

I'm not sure what you mean by problems with tax and accounting.

On evernote's side I'm sure they use accrual accounting so its pretty

simple.

Whether broken down quarterly, monthly or bi weekly,

in evernote's internal accounting system, whenever that portion

of the service has been deemed as "provided" then only that respective fraction

of the total billed amount to the customer is reported as "earned" for that period

and subsequently booked as revenue.

The rest of the funds initially

paid over by the customer simply remains under customer's deposit

on the liability side of evernote's accounting until

the total customer deposit amount has flowed to the revenue

side of the balance sheet as revenue is booked after each accounting period

This deposit can be carried forward over a number of years. Just like a loan,

it gets classified as a long term liability until it goes to zero when the customer

deposit runs out.

I hardly think it takes tens of thousands of dollars to change

something so simple on the billing side of the software. You make it sound as

though evernote would be creating a brand new app.

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Don't think this has been discussed before, and I agree it's a nice idea, but I can't think of any other organisations providing long-term subscriptions like this and I'd suspect that a major part of the problem is going to be about tax and accounting. Plus there's that oldy but goody - how many users would take this option up if Evernote spent a few tens of thousands of dollars making it work? Would they get enough additional business to provide an adequate return on all that time and effort? I'd suspect not.

Crashplan backup service provides a monthly, yearly, two

three and four year prepaid packages. Its a pretty highly

regarded service in its niche like Evernote is.

check it out: https://www.crashpla...sumer/store.vtl

I'm not sure what you mean by problems with tax and accounting.

On evernote's side I'm sure they use accrual accounting so its pretty

simple.

Whether broken down quarterly, monthly or bi weekly,

in evernote's internal accounting system, whenever that portion

of the service has been deemed as "provided" then only that respective fraction

of the total billed amount to the customer is reported as "earned" for that period

and subsequently booked as revenue.

The rest of the funds initially

paid over by the customer simply remains under customer's deposit

on the liability side of evernote's accounting until

the total customer deposit amount has flowed to the revenue

side of the balance sheet as revenue is booked after each accounting period

This deposit can be carried forward over a number of years. Just like a loan,

it gets classified as a long term liability until it goes to zero when the customer

deposit runs out.

I hardly think it takes tens of thousands of dollars to change

something so simple on the billing side of the software. You make it sound as

though evernote would be creating a brand new app.

I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.

Posted

I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.

I did check the link but I wasn't referring to a lifetime membership,

century membership or anything that grand and needing that much consideration

before implementing.

There may be power

users that right now desperately want evernote to be their ubiquitous cloud filing cabinet

for ever and ever, but I'm not referring to those users.

I am thinking way simpler. For the ordinary premium user

that wants a way to avoid the headache of this year to year

task of monitoring their credit card and their renewal status,

a multi year option would be a relatively simple implementation.

Have you checked the link to crashplan that I provided ?

Nothing too grandiose there. It's like signing up for

four years instead of one when getting a domain name at

Godaddy.

Drop dead simple is all I'm asking.

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I don't know if you have had a chance to read the link I posted to an Evernote employee's response to this feature request, but I think that might give you some more information about some of the factors they are considering.

I did check the link but I wasn't referring to a lifetime membership,

century membership or anything that grand and needing that much consideration

before implementing.

There may be power

users that right now desperately want evernote to be their ubiquitous cloud filing cabinet

for ever and ever, but I'm not referring to those users.

I am thinking way simpler. For the ordinary premium user

that wants a way to avoid the headache of this year to year

task of monitoring their credit card and their renewal status,

a multi year option would be a relatively simple implementation.

Have you checked the link to crashplan that I provided ?

Nothing too grandiose there. It's like signing up for

four years instead of one when getting a domain name at

Godaddy.

Drop dead simple is all I'm asking.

Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.

Posted

Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.

OK, That's interesting! know anybody who has successfully done this?

Is it as simple as how you say it is? I'm willing to try that if it is.

I don't need a discounted price. I don't mind paying for evernote

in a three year block and priced as it is right now for a premium account.

Of course that's just me.

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Posted

Sure. It seems like a good pricing system to me, and a good idea, but I think it is just not something they have sorted out yet. I am sure that being on multiple platforms, having deals with multiple carriers, working in multiple countries, etc., etc. brings a significant level of complexity to everything from customer service to business model forecasts. Hopefully, they'll consider the option, but if you are just looking to reduce the hassle, you can buy a few gift cards and apply those Premium memberships to your account so that you end up with 4 or 5 years of it.

OK, That's interesting! know anybody who has successfully done this?

Is it as simple as how you say it is? I'm willing to try that if it is.

I don't need a discounted price. I don't mind paying for evernote

in a three year block and priced as it is right now for a premium account.

Of course that's just me.

Hi. Glad I could help. It is my understanding that gift cards are cumulative, and apparently people have successfully done what I suggested. Evernote's customer support maven (Heather) said this four months ago (http://discussion.ev..._20#entry164730), but just in case, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to confirm before purchasing the gift cards. I do know that you cannot "pay" outright for multiple years (hence, your thread), but the gift card codes are the workaround for this.

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