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Evernote 5.0.0 for Mac


Jackolicious

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Hi everyone,

We just released version 5.0 and couldn't be more excited! It incorporates a lot of changes that you, our community, suggested and we hope that you enjoy it.

Before I get to the release notes, I wanted to take a moment to thank you all for your feedback and support during the beta period. It means a tremendous amount to us at Evernote to have such passionate and engaged users. The EN Mac community has been incredibly helpful in shaping what v5 is today. Keep in mind, what we shipped today is by no means final and we will keep working tirelessly to improve it for you. You are our motivation, so thank you!

Without further ado, here are the updates since the last public beta:

  • Note sort order preferences are remembered
  • More applescript fixes
  • Fixed the notebook sharing dialog for smaller screens
  • Fixed multi-select note view alignment
  • Fixed some copy/paste whitespace issues
  • Reduced overall memory consumption
  • Improved stability dramatically
  • You can now drop files onto the note list
  • New App Store to Direct Download version migrator

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I noticed that Evernote 5.0.1 changes the aspect ratio of images when you diminish the width of the note preview. That doesn't work for me because I rely on seeing the images as I've captured them. Especially type will become to condensed horizontally. Please give us an option to constrain the aspect ratio and if we want to see more of the image maybe provide is with some sort of full size preview.

Thanks, Jan

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Competition works if it's relatively easy and low cost to switch to a competing product. Despite its challenges EN is way ahead of other solutions!

Because of its nature and target market, many people will have become very reliant on it, as an 'extension of their brain'... Many of these users will not have a clue what export means?

When you have millions of users, paying or not, you have a responsibility not to mess them about unnecessarily. I note when Hotmail was completely changed to outlook.com recently, users could revert back.

Obviously we need some sort of self regulation and agreed protocols across the industry. There needs to be a proper framework for prerelease testing and feedback with power users of a product, AND the less IT aware user base, who probably make up the majority.

There are also key issues with regard to less able users who may rely on font size, colour of items etc.

What is EN's commitment to supporting older versions and for how long? With Windows XP, Microsoft has continued to provide security updates etc way beyond its sell by date.

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BUG: Editing

- Sometimes (not all of the time) I am editing a note, I sync, and then it disappears. Again (as reported earlier), this seems to happen when I have my notes filtered by a search. I have to re-run the search to find the note, even though I have not done anything that would affect the search criteria, so the note ought to remain visible.

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The Evernote for Mac 5.0 'What's New' page claims:

Change a note’s location

We made it easy to add or change the geographic location of a note. Just pull up the note info menu, then type any location or address in the Location field or click the compass arrow to use your current location.

I click on 'i', then the Location, and I cannot edit it manually. I can edit *everything else* except the Location. What gives? I can click on the Compass, but I can't type in an address.

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Hello,

In the previous version of Evernote I could drag/drop a link from the browser and Evernote would create a new note, but I can't seem to figure out how to do this in the new version. I would try to drag/drop on the page that shows all the notebooks, but that didn't work. I would open a notebook then try dragging/dropping a link within the area, but that doesn't work either. Please, tell me how to drag/drop a link to create a new note.

Thanks,

Mark

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Oh my god what a disaster is this version 5. I'm really disappointed, cant believe this could happen: everything but "eyecandyness" has got worst.

Evernote is the most wonderful tool i've got in my whole life, please get back to 3.3 usability.

P.S.

I've just downgraded, 3.3 works like a charme and i'm happy again! Thank you Nightstalker :)

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Also, I'm really missing the Forward and Backward feature. I've configured my mouse wheel to use the Forward and Backward functions, and now they do nothing. If I accidentally click on a random notebook on my Sidebar, I can't easily go back to where I was anymore....

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Also, I'm really missing the Forward and Backward feature. I've configured my mouse wheel to use the Forward and Backward functions, and now they do nothing. If I accidentally click on a random notebook on my Sidebar, I can't easily go back to where I was anymore....

It might happen :)

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I'm glad you're excited about the new version, 5.0. I, on the other hand, can't find anything and don't know how to use Evernote now. It seems that i'll have to pay Lynda.com $25 for a lesson on how to use it. Is there a cheaper way to learn the new version?

Ask your questions on here - pretty sure we can answer most of them.

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Not sure what "Clearly" is, but I suspect you mean "Clever" (for the iPhone) and "CleverHD" (for the iPad).

The only downside of those is there is no local offline storage. For that, you have to use the official Evernote client.

The other one to add is "FastEver" - by far the quickest way to start, write, and enter a note into the Evernote database.

And here is the link for older versions of Evernote - all for the Mac:

http://mac.filehorse.com/download-evernote/old-versions/

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This is in my opinion one of the worst updates I've ever seen, everything that was easy and practical about Evernote is know confusing, overcomplex with stupid interface that throws me off my usual way of doing things in Evernote and it's not adding anything useful. Down right stupid, I understand that a lot of work has been put in this version but it doesn't matter if you forget that there are a lot of users out there.

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Is there a convenient one-click way to empty the Trash notebook from the Trash List View? I usually review the notes in the Trash notebook before I delete them, but after I did that, I couldn't find a quick way to delete all of them in one go. I either had to (1) select all of the notes then delete, or (2) go to the Notebooks view, then right-click on the Trash notebook. Also I noticed Trash doesn't show up on the Sidebar, so I couldn't right-click from there.

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Boatguy

- You go to the menus for what?

- Re: list view, do you mean in the sidebar?

- What do you think of shortcuts?

- Add a new notebook to a stack

- No context here, but I use the list view on the right side, notebooks above.

- I like shortcuts

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Feature Request: Add back the note count to the Notebook list in the sidebar like in previous versions. Really helps for the read it later and other to-do action categories to get a glimpse of the backlog. I know you can get that with view notebooks, but that's not a natural place that I look and I need to more "notice" it that specifically go looking for it.

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BUG: Searches

- If you have something in the search field filtering your results (in my case, "intitle:journal") and you open a note to edit it, if you switch to another app (in my case, Pages), when you go back to Evernote the note is gone and 0 notes are displayed. You have to run the search again and track down the note to edit it. I believe the expected behavior would be that your cursor remains in the exact same position when you return (as it does when you have no searches in the search field).

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I need indent/outdent a lot, but I'll switch back to 3.x.

I guess it is still there: Try to press <tab>.

Or do you mean something different? Yes, the icon is gone, which is bad. But indenting while typing text still works.

Tab is just a tab. The indent works with CMD + ] and CMD + [

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This is in my opinion one of the worst updates I've ever seen, everything that was easy and practical about Evernote is know confusing, overcomplex with stupid interface that throws me off my usual way of doing things in Evernote and it's not adding anything useful. Down right stupid, I understand that a lot of work has been put in this version but it doesn't matter if you forget that there are a lot of users out there.

It's a lot easier to understand if you try and be specific, what are you missing?

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Small request: could the CMD+' shortcut used to Edit Note Tags be implemented when multiple notes are selected. If I'm tagging notes one at a time, I don't have to take my hands off the keyboard — perfect. If I'm tagging in groups, I have to go to the mouse to get to the tagging field. Having that shortcut to the tag field even in multi-view would make Inbox processing go a lot quicker.

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I know you guys put a lot of work into this, I can tell, but I have to say usablitity wise it is a major step back for me (so much so that after struggling with it I came to the conclusion that it was not worth it at all. I recovered my old version of the software from the trash and am back to using that).

I actually liked the hierarchical sidebar way of navigating. I know you can turn it back on partially in the new version, but that new list on the sidebar is a neutered version (can't make any changes or move items from there). I will wait out this cycle. I hope in the next cycle the abiltity to choose the full classic view is put back in. Otherwise I'll stick with 3.3 till I find something that replaces evernote entirely.

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terrific job

takes a bit of getting used too but the learning curve is not very steep.

you seem to have plowed through the sandboxing issues[first thing i checked]

With a major upgrade like this there will no doubt be a few bugs. just swat them and keep up the good work!

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Hi there,

Congratulations on your new release. I am not sure if this is the place to post feature-requests, but I will give it a go.

  • When expanded, the notebook view in the sidebar no longer has an add/delete and other options at the bottom. The new version requires me to go to the Notebook View to create a new Notebook or to use the File menu. Those buttons in the sidebar were awfully useful.
  • Expanded view of Notebooks in the sidebar disallows changing the Notebook's name right in the list. One must right click on it and choose Notebook Settings and then change the name. Used to be able to simply double-click and type which was easier.
  • Expanded view of Notebooks in the sidebar does not highlight the Notebook you are in so there's no visual clue in the UI showing you where you are.
  • And there's one feature request that I'd sent in a long time ago. I'd love to see tabs on an individual note. That would be incredibly useful for me.

Thank you,

Lynn

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Too bad Steve isn't here to get these people (Evernote and Apple) in line.

Has anybody tried reporting this situation to Apple? Maybe they can get it fixed, or just buy the company. Or is Apple throwing their users out with the bash water, too, like Microsoft?

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Been using 5.0 for a few days now and wanted to provide some feedback.

I have been using Evernote for over 4 years. 97096 notes and counting. I depend on Evernote everyday and I approach a major new version with much apprehension and limited patience. I want things to be better but I don't want to significantly change what I been doing daily for so long.

I start by saying it takes some getting used to but I like it.

By far the BIGGEST improvement is the SPEED. This makes up for all the things I dislike or miss.

I have a 4 yr old MacPro with 16GB RAM but the old version was always beach balling when I selected a new notebook or search, etc. I always assumed this was a function of the size of my database.

5.0 is almost instantaneous on almost everything (selecting all notes did slow it down a bit).

I also like

  • left panel
  • search improvements (much easier than learning the old syntax, but nice that you can still do that too)
  • modern clean look

I don't like

  • missing note counts in left panel
  • no toolbar customization
  • difficult to figure out how to create a new saved search (should be part of the search dropdown, not buried under the Edit/Find menu)
  • still no easy way to apply multiple tags to a single note or groups of notes (that I know of)

Keep up the good work Everynote,

Jim

NOTE: I had tried the beta about a month ago but the initial database conversion was taking so long that I worried there was something wrong so I abandoned it. The database conversion this time was also long. The "processing" bar in the lower left seemed to indicate something was happening so I left it overnight and it was all good in the morning.

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Hello! I updated to Evernote 5 few minutes ago and i can't find, where can i change location (geotag) of my note? I use Evernote to plan my journeys and create one note per one place i'm going to visit. Now i can't specify location for created note!

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This is in my opinion one of the worst updates I've ever seen, everything that was easy and practical about Evernote is know confusing, overcomplex with stupid interface that throws me off my usual way of doing things in Evernote and it's not adding anything useful. Down right stupid, I understand that a lot of work has been put in this version but it doesn't matter if you forget that there are a lot of users out there.

It's a lot easier to understand if you try and be specific, what are you missing?

The biggest problem is that the new UI f*cked upp my whole way of working and I use evernote to keep tabs on everything I do, it makes everything harder to get to, it was a simple and very effective way to organise stuff, now it's probably very clever and with a million new ways to do things but that was not why I choose evernote in the first place.

When someone and something changes your whole system and tools it's beyond irritating because it interrupts everything.

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mrg

- paste issues are being worked on

wacktacky

- assigning tags by dragging isn't available in this release but we are planning on bringing it back ASAP

- note counts: ditto

JMichael

- note counts are in the works

Dave DeLong

- re: tags moving slowly - did you know when you click the big tags icon, you can just start typing and it'll filter your tags. Sorry your machine is slowing down. Sounds like you may be indexing at the same time. I'd recommend just letting it load once. It shouldn't have to do it more than once.

stormgen

2: please talk to support. we haven't seen this

5: working on it

7: working on it

pgdahl

Activity stream - Does it steal focus or just give you a blue icon?

Alignment - It's an internationalization bug that will be fixed in our next release.

Mark

Deleting a notebook can be done via the big notebook button on the left. Then right-click any notebook, delete. Done.

fclerc

Adding location: You can still do that PLUS you can type addresses now.

Hi,

Thanks for the answer.

If still being able to manually change location and enter directly the address is what you want to do, it is great news and a valuable added functionnality.

Unfortunately right now, it just doesn't work, at least on my configuration: i have a 2009 iMac and am running MacOSX Lion.

As you can see on the joined image, the location box is disabled and i can't enter anything.

Hope you can find the problem...

Thanks!

Fabien

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NiteStalker,

Thanks for the link, but I cannot get it to work for me. I get this message:

We are unable to install this application because it is not compatible with your system.

Instead, you might be interested in a Genieo Homepage that offers you a personalized homepage experience with news feeds and other information you may be interested in.

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And then get moved to someplace weird trying to download something else.

I so want to get this.

Any other thoughts as to where/how to get the 3.3.0 version??

Thank you!

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Now, as it has been a couple of weeks since I "upgraded" to v5.0., can anyone remember what the most recent version was on the Mac before the v5 upgrade? I have v3.0.6 here, but if I can find a later version, but pre v5, I'll install that.

Fortunately, I usually make a zipped copy of an App before a big upgrade just in case (zip stops it being updated and deleted) - my copy of Evernote 3 says v.3.3.1

What are the chances you can email that to me??? I am new and wanting to understand all this EN stuff, but the version 5 has so many differences from the tutorials I can't figure it out. Someone sent me to http://mac.filehorse.com/download-evernote/2755/, but that didn't work. Thoughts?? Thank you!!

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I, too, am dissapointed with version 5. I live my life on Evernote! I find the new version difficult to use. A lot of the usability functions have been removed. I used to create new notebooks by write-clicking on the list of stacks. Now I have to click on Notebooks->New Notebook->Drag it to where it's supposed to be.

I see you've aimed for aesthetics, but you sacrificed usability. Also the dropdown menus of the notebook and the New Note, are counter-intuitive and ugly.

I miss the delete button! Now I have to right-click and select delete.

I'm going back to version 3.

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Why mess up something good that's working and make it complicated to use? It's slower, buggier and it takes a lot more time and clicks to do everything. Instead of click on a "stack" > "notebook" and a "note" in an easy process where everything is in view, now I click on notebooks and a new layer shows with fancy sliding/zooming fuctions where it gets even more confusing with notes, tags, tasks and conflicts show up, then I need to doubleclick to get to notes but then I can't see the other notebooks and then they took away the simple navigation arrows that worked so it's more difficult to stuff not easier and that is stupid. This freakin me out actually, I can't understand how you think when you have a product that is used and loved by millions and then you do an update that changes the original "metaphor" and way of organising things.

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@Bertel: I don't know why that link isn't working for you. I just downloaded Evernote v3.3.0 Build 300201 from that site again - no problems.

Are you saying you get that message when you try to install it, rather than when you try to download it?

What version of Mac OS are you on? Do you currently have Evernote v5 installed?

When I installed it to roll back, I simply dragged the Evernote app from the expanded Disk Image into the Applications folder which shows in the expanded disk image.

You should get the warning that a newer (or older, depending on when you last installed EN) version is already in the Applications folder, and you just click on "Replace".

Run Evernote, and let it sync. Job done.

I have no idea why yours won't work unless you've downloaded the wrong version, or are running a very old Mac OS like Leopard or earlier....

I just did it again, from that link, and all went perfectly. I'm running Mountain Lion, for what it's worth.

EDIT: just another thought - that message you get sounds suspiciously like a spam re-direct. What browser are you using? And do you get to the FileHorse website properly to start with? May be worth trying a different browser - I'm using Firefox, v17 (latest). Just make sure you're on the Mac software pages of the site - the link I posted above should take you straight to the page with the last several versions of Evernote. Click on Evernote v3.3.0 Build 300201 Then all you have to do is click the "Download" link at the top right.

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NightStalker, you're like a super hero to me.

Thank you for taking the time to respond!!!

You are right, I was clicking on the wrong "download" icon on the left - a spam re-director - as you suspected. Anyway, clicked on the upper right hand corner as you pointed out and it worked!

It's downloaded and I'm going back in.

Wish me luck!!! The whole funneling your info. through one station does make sense to me, especially since I have several different streams of income and several creative endeavors going on all at once. I also sustained a massive head injury several years ago which often makes going in a straight line tricky for me. So, we'll see.

Anyway, thanks again!

Have a great night.

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I have some serious concerns for the new version.

Ever since I installed it I'm having a serious bug in spotlight searches for evernotes. Not only does Evernote no longer present new notes to the spotlight index. Even worse is that when I do serach for an older note that still reside there and open it, this method of opening a note BLANKS the note and uploads the blanked copy to the server while presenting the correct note on screen. The next time I open Evernote the note is gone, it's blank, clear, empty, and there's nothing in the trashcan or anywhere else. It's just gone, hasta la vista. I had to actually dig through my timemachine to find a data html file for the note to recover it. Not exactly nice, anyone else having this issue? It's horrible, I keep forgetting about it and keep deleting my notes "€&!&!# :(:o

Apart from that I like the LOOK of the new version. It feels abit more like typing on a paper, which, call me a weirdo, feels much more creative (I'm a musician, we're allowed to be weird). There are things I don't like however. While there still is a way to keep all notebooks to the left in the panel it isn't sleek looking at all as it was in the last version. The quickbar is a neat idea but it looks halfbaked and I'd like features such as folders and separators. It's also sketchy. Sometimes when I click a recent note it doesn't really open it. Sometimes when I open the program I get into "all notes" and there's nothing there, freaking me out totally until I click notes again and I find them listed again (jesus are you trying to kill me??)

I'd especially like a comment on the blank note / spotlight search bug, I've filed a ticket already.

I have the exact same problem. Open a note from spotlight menu on OS X deletes most of the content of the note. I went back and forth with the support person ina couple emails and then they finally got what I was trying to say and reported it to the development team. It truly is a big bug and needs to get fixed!

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The new sidebar is unusable.

I've been running the beta, and now the GM, for approximately 3 weeks, now. After giving it "the old college try," I must say I remain immensely frustrated by the difficulty involved to simply locate and view any particular notebook. I have not gotten "accustomed" to it, because it is simply unintuitive. While I do like many things about 5.0, this change in particular -- with all due respect -- feels like a HUGE step backward in usability.

I have a number of nested notebooks. I simply want to look at my sidebar, see my hierarchy, and select the notebook I need. In one step. Now, finding my nested notebooks and displaying their notes is a horrific chore. It's not clever. It's not modern. It's a recurring exercise in aggravation and frustration.

When the new method of doing something takes significantly more time (and clicks) than it did before, it's difficult to comprehend how it could be viewed -- by anyone -- as an improvement. I say this with all sincerity and with due respect.

It's simply awful.

Please, please return the complete hierarchy back to the sidebar -- even if only as an option, to protect those who may prefer the new method.

I'm begging you.

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Feature Request: Add back the note count to the Notebook list in the sidebar like in previous versions. Really helps for the read it later and other to-do action categories to get a glimpse of the backlog. I know you can get that with view notebooks, but that's not a natural place that I look and I need to more "notice" it that specifically go looking for it.

Huzzah! Just up updated to 5.0.1 and at the top of the release notes is this feature. Super thanks for adding this back in!

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Where do I find the total number of notes in my account?

It used to be conveniently displayed at the top of the window.

It is not shown anymore. If you want to see the total number of notes you have to go to All Notes and select all of them (CMD + a). This is one of those numbers I'd like to see back (http://discussion.ev...or-all-clients/).

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Bug: Evernote 5 will take me about 4 days to launch.

After my debacle last night, I tried to open Evernote again to use it. I happened to be at the Tags view. Evernote took about half an hour to load the note counts for 20 tags. This means that loading 4000 notes would take about 4 days. Um, no thanks.

I've filed a support request, if anyone who works for the company is listening: 16051-185239.

I have also uninstalled Evernote 5 and (thankfully) found 3.3.1 sitting in my Trash folder.

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I am starting to feel sorry for you at Evernote, so here is some positive feed back as well :)

I like the new left panel where I can put different shortcuts. And it's great to have more keyboard shortcuts for this and that.

I think that the change of search function is great. Earlier I had to choose "all notes" pretty often - or save searches - in order to jump between different tags and notebooks. It was a bit tricky to understand how to manage saved searches - but no worse than a bit "trial and error" before I got what I wanted.

The overall look feels more modern, even though it might be a bit too spacious for us with laptops. As I said in my earlier post, give me more typographical control, and I will be all happy again.

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I've been looking forward to this update ever since I heard about it. The new versions of Evernote on my iPad and iPhone have been largely improvements over the old ones (although I can't sort notes by creation date?!), and I was hopeful that the Mac version would bring similar improvements.

However...

I have a dozen or so notebooks divided up into a couple of stacks, and my notebooks range from anywhere between 2 notes and ~1000. This thing beachballs all the time. It's almost unusable.

I have thousands of tags (about 4000, last time I checked). If I click on the "Tags" Shortcut, Evernote takes about 4 seconds to load the screen (during which it beachballs, of course). Once it does load, this screen is only useful if I already know which tag I'm looking for. If I don't, which is usually my case (since my tags are auto-generated), then I have to try and scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, trying to see what there is. Oh, and while I'm scrolling, it stutters and jumps the whole way. The severely destroys the usefulness of the app. On the bright side, I can just show all the tags in the Shortcuts bar, where everything scrolls as smooth as butter. Unfortunately...

I don't see the note counts when the notebooks and tags are shown in the Shortcuts bar. I REALLY miss that. They're also not in any popovers that I can see. They only appear to be in the Notebooks view and the Tags view. The Tags view we've already established is a wreck...

And the Notebooks view. Notebooks jump around from column to column as stacks expand and close. There's no animation to indicate where they're moving to. They're just jumping all around from place to place. Ugh.

So...

Where can I download the previous version? Barring that, what's the most effective way to export my data so I can import it into another app?

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Ok, up and using system - albeit not perfectly yet, but have a new question:

How do I print a list?

For example, if I go to my @Town task list and there are 8 things on it, how do I print that list to take with me?

When I tried printing it would only print each task/note individually.

Many thanks!

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Hey Jack

Assuming you still want bug reports in here:

Bug

When in Notebooks view, creating a notebook by right clicking and selecting "New Notebook" from the context menu does not present the option to choose a local or sync'd notebook. Instead a sync'd notebook is immediately created.

Creating a new notebook using the button in the top left corner correctly presents the options.

I think this is what I was seeing in my post yesterday or the day before.

Looks like a bug....

- Add an image to a note

- Open image in Preview and resize, save, close

Previously, the image was updated with the new size in Evernote, doesn't look like it is now. Not sure if it has been updated and is being displayed incorrectly or has just not been updated.

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I've been looking forward to this update ever since I heard about it. The new versions of Evernote on my iPad and iPhone have been largely improvements over the old ones (although I can't sort notes by creation date?!), and I was hopeful that the Mac version would bring similar improvements.

However...

I have a dozen or so notebooks divided up into a couple of stacks, and my notebooks range from anywhere between 2 notes and ~1000. This thing beachballs all the time. It's almost unusable.

I have thousands of tags (about 4000, last time I checked). If I click on the "Tags" Shortcut, Evernote takes about 4 seconds to load the screen (during which it beachballs, of course). Once it does load, this screen is only useful if I already know which tag I'm looking for. If I don't, which is usually my case (since my tags are auto-generated), then I have to try and scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, trying to see what there is. Oh, and while I'm scrolling, it stutters and jumps the whole way. The severely destroys the usefulness of the app. On the bright side, I can just show all the tags in the Shortcuts bar, where everything scrolls as smooth as butter. Unfortunately...

I don't see the note counts when the notebooks and tags are shown in the Shortcuts bar. I REALLY miss that. They're also not in any popovers that I can see. They only appear to be in the Notebooks view and the Tags view. The Tags view we've already established is a wreck...

And the Notebooks view. Notebooks jump around from column to column as stacks expand and close. There's no animation to indicate where they're moving to. They're just jumping all around from place to place. Ugh.

So...

Where can I download the previous version? Barring that, what's the most effective way to export my data so I can import it into another app?

Yikes. I hate beachballs. I've had a few, but nothing like that. It sounds like it might be worth contacting customer support. This doesn't sound right.

As for exporting, just export as HTML. Just about any other app can handle that, though I don't know of any other app as good as Evernote (at least, for my use case).

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By far the BIGGEST improvement is the SPEED.

With all due respects, maybe this is more of a relative thing for you, given the amazingly large number of notes you appear to have. I have several thousand notes, but not even anywhere NEAR what you seem to have, and for me, Evernote 5 was SLOW. It was much slower at everything, and also for me doing anything, than the previous version. Having rolled back to the previous version, the increase in speed back to what I'm used to is very noticeable.

So maybe it IS a function of the number of notes?

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By far the BIGGEST improvement is the SPEED.

With all due respects, maybe this is more of a relative thing for you, given the amazingly large number of notes you appear to have. I have several thousand notes, but not even anywhere NEAR what you seem to have, and for me, Evernote 5 was SLOW. It was much slower at everything, and at doing anything, than the previous version. Having rolled back to the previous version, the increase in speed back to what I'm used to is very noticeable.

So maybe it IS a function of the number of notes?

I think it's probably a function of the number of TAGS. I would expect that it's common for people to have gajillions of notes, but not so common to have enormous numbers of tags. For example, I have about 2000 notes, but nearly 5000 tags (4,895). It's unbearably slow, to the point where I'm manually deleting tags on the iPad app, because I simply cannot use the Mac app.

Have you ever tried to manually delete about 3000 tags? It's not fun. :(

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Hi everyone,

We just released version 5.0 and couldn't be more excited! It incorporates a lot of changes that you, our community, suggested and we hope that you enjoy it.

Before I get to the release notes, I wanted to take a moment to thank you all for your feedback and support during the beta period. It means a tremendous amount to us at Evernote to have such passionate and engaged users. The EN Mac community has been incredibly helpful in shaping what v5 is today. Keep in mind, what we shipped today is by no means final and we will keep working tirelessly to improve it for you. You are our motivation, so thank you!

Without further ado, here are the updates since the last public beta:

  • Note sort order preferences are remembered
  • More applescript fixes
  • Fixed the notebook sharing dialog for smaller screens
  • Fixed multi-select note view alignment
  • Fixed some copy/paste whitespace issues
  • Reduced overall memory consumption
  • Improved stability dramatically
  • You can now drop files onto the note list
  • New App Store to Direct Download version migrator

Congratulations on successfully completing a major update! You and the rest of the team ought to be congratulated for bringing us these improvements.

After you all have a celebration and get some well-deserved rest, I have a few suggestions going forward:

(1) more productivity-oriented features (),

(2) more contrast in the Snippet View for focus notes,

(3) and an indent icon in the edit bar :)

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Very good point about the number of tags. Maybe that is something that the developers need to look at?

Personally, I only use very generalised tags (eg Music, Photography, Recipe, etc, and the star system occasionally). I also have the notes separated into their respective notebooks under similar headings. But of course, some notes have more than one tag - but they're still very generalised (eg a note with a purchase receipt for some music software would have tags of "Music", "Financial" and "Software".)

I think generating highly individual tags for each note almost seems to defeat the purpose of tags - the notes themselves ARE the tags in many cases. So my tags are very manageable.

One person I know uses the date as a tag - but that is pure duplication, as the date created is part of the note info metadata anyway, and can be sorted on.

I think you have a very good point that it may be the tags slowing down EN, particularly the new version. Even though ENv5 was much slower on my systems with nowhere near the number of tags that some people seem to have.

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Unfortunately, that screen width bug is still present in the 5.0 release. Thankfully sschwertz' fix works.

Unfortunately, the ends of lines are still be cutting off unless the note is opened in a separate window. Fingers crossed this is fixed in Beta 3. I can't read anything in the note pane.

ETA: This is what it looks like. This is the bottom of the note pane so you can see the lack of horizontal scroll. Making the pane wider does nothing. Reducing font size, nothing.

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Seeing the same behavior with PDFs. They don't resize down properly to fit within the note pane. Images are fine.

And apparently I'm the only person experiencing this bug.

I just downloaded the beta today, and I did see this as well. So far with my experimentation, it happens in this scenario:

1. Set Evernote to full screen.

2. Quit evernote.

3. Restart Evernote. It automatically opens up in full screen and the right side of the note pane is cut off. At that point there seems to be no fix -- changing full screen or resizing the panes does nothing.

I was able to "fix" it on mine by leaving full screen mode and exiting Evernote (so exiting out while in a "normal" window). Then I restarted and it came up in non-full screen with the correct note pane.

So try that and see if it helps! Hopefully this info will help them fix this bug.

EDIT: OK, so I ran into this again and the trick I described above didn't work. Tried a bunch of things, quitting, restarting, etc. Finally tried this: Made the note column (in card view) more narrow so it only was only 2 notes wide. Then exited and came back in and my note panes are back to normal.

So I'm thinking on launch, evernote is sizing the note pane to some fixed size rather than basing it on the width of the panes. And then from that point on, it resizes in proportion to that size. So if the initial size is wrong, you're stuck.

I just repeated this again, but this time I switched to list view and exited. That also solved the problem.

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I seriously hope my comments will be paid attention by Evernote team.

BUGs/Comments

1. "Recent Note" is not convenient enough. Please create a new UI like that on iPad.

2. "Recent Note" does not work when Evernote is in full screen. WTH!!!

3. Most importantly, "Time" is not shown on thumbnail when a noted in edited today. I don't want just "Today". It is very important, for users like me, to know exactly when is the final update. PLEASE restore this small yet essential feature.

4. Notebooks and Stacks cannot be moved/edited at the side bar.

5. Total number of notes in each Tag is not shown in side bar.

6. Please enable double click to rename Stacks and Notebooks in side bar.

7. When dragging Tags into a note, there is no any obvious indicator like it was in Version 4.

8. "Trash" is missing in the side bar?

9. The "sharing" icon appears ridiculously.

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There must be a "Sharing" icon at the Stack below the 2 real shared Notebook — Thought and XFlashmind. I played around with this. No matter what notebooks I inserted into a stack, as long as the position of the stack is just below the 2 shared notebook. This bug happens. Please. It is extremely annoying.

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mrg

- paste issues are being worked on

wacktacky

- assigning tags by dragging isn't available in this release but we are planning on bringing it back ASAP

- note counts: ditto

JMichael

- note counts are in the works

Dave DeLong

- re: tags moving slowly - did you know when you click the big tags icon, you can just start typing and it'll filter your tags. Sorry your machine is slowing down. Sounds like you may be indexing at the same time. I'd recommend just letting it load once. It shouldn't have to do it more than once.

stormgen

2: please talk to support. we haven't seen this

5: working on it

7: working on it

pgdahl

Activity stream - Does it steal focus or just give you a blue icon?

Alignment - It's an internationalization bug that will be fixed in our next release.

Mark

Deleting a notebook can be done via the big notebook button on the left. Then right-click any notebook, delete. Done.

fclerc

Adding location: You can still do that PLUS you can type addresses now.

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Watched the video of the developer/designer meeting and see what you guys were after but, like many here, I can't see any obvious reason why the functionality of 3.3 had to be sacrificed to the cleaner design. And it was sacrificed. : )

I generally like the new design aesthetic - as one example, 3.3 lacked enough margin between the text and borders of the different sections of the main window so the things was croweded and made/makes reading text a bit annoying. That problem is eliminated with the new design. And I like the beyond-Apple mindset of the designers.

But I also like having things functional and while the next logical step in the development of EN was a UI makeover, the choices made in terms of program use are baffling. If there's virtue in less function for some customers, then create a standard set of dumbed-down options that hides the functions that power users love, preserving options to reveal those functions via settings: Let us customize the toolbar, turn on our favorites bar, create saved searches the old way and get our back button back.

The makeover was necessary and the new look is a big improvement. But the program is crippled. Keep the new look but give us back the wonderful functionality.

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stack, thanks for the feedback.

- tags on multiple notes: selecting multiple notes should let you add tags in bulk https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/1e1bf5c4-15d7-4e55-a787-33d0663ae6bd/de8edf8450c7f6c26e27a721cb17ac18

greenctzn, please open a request with support.

In the meantime, you can try to re-download the app directly from us here: http://evernote.com/evernote/index.php?file=EvernoteMac

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Possible 5.0.0 bug: I Installed Evernote (E) build 400539 yesterday (15th) on iMac running OS X 10.7.5 and E worked fine. When I rebooted this AM, E seemed to be running (I can get to the title bar and menus) but no E windows displayed on any desktop. I tried some of the obvious things, such as rebooting again, trying to trick E to reveal itself, etc., without success, until I right-clicked the Dock icon for E and changed setting from "Assign to this desktop" (I had previously designated a particular desktop) to "Assign to all desktops" and the main E window appeared full screen.

I can get some work down now, but this wasted a hour of my time... Aside from that, the update seems pretty slick.

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First up, thanks for taking the time to update Evernote, I don't like it, but you still deserve the thanks for the work.

In particular, the UI is very difficult to use, it feels 'clunky' and 'awkward' (excuse the cliche descriptions).

I have managed to now set it up so I have list views of my notebooks (show notebook list) however if I select a child notebook, it does not highlight like the parent's do, this makes it a lot harder to see which notebook I am in at a glance.

Also, the dark design is ugly... but as I'm more of a 'substance over style' person, I can live with that.

Once again, great attempt, thanks, just not quite right just yet ;)

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Overall it's pretty good for my use case. After some of the previously mentioned clean up like customizable tool bar, note count, trash link, etc. it will be better. That notebook view is less than user friendly though. Glad I don't rely on it. I am surprised that some of the features that have been asked for for several years like click order merge and the infamous vertical list view didn't make it in.

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What happened to my "Saved Searches" in the new Evernote 5?

Saved searches appear in the search field now. Then can be made through Edit > Find > Save Search. They can be moved to your Shortcuts (most of mine reside here).

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

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I have a note with an embedded open office writer file followed by an exported PDF version of that document (so I can quickly see whats in it)

In the latest version of evernote every time I try to click on the open office doc to open it evernote crashes

Version 5.0.0 (400524)

OSX 10.8.2

Sometimes evernote crashes even just trying to open this note.

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I really like the new look, and thre's a lot to praise. But while I've poked around, I can find a way to sort by title, only date which seems the default. Surely that's not the only sort function.

Got it. In order to change the sorting method you have to go into LIST VIEW. Once you return to card view or anything else, it keeps that sortig method. BTW, why can't we custoixe the cions available. I miss delete for one.

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

I have no problem typing advanced searches. What is happening when you try to type it?

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I see others have submitted bug reports here, so here is mine:

BUG

When adding/editing a tag on a note, you can not Capitalize the first letter of the Tag. I have tried both Caps Lock and Shift to no success. The second letter will capitalize with both methods but not the first. If one chooses to delete the first letter and use the 'second' letter capitalized, then it works correct.

Running Evernote 5.0.0 on OS X 10.8.2 (12C3006)

Let me know if you need anymore info.

Thanks.

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Well, after finding so many things that were either missing, or harder to use, I finally gave in. I found version 3.0.6 in my downloads folder, and have reinstalled that. It took a while, re-indexing, converting, and building thumbnails etc, but when it popped back on screen, I breathed a huge sigh of relief. Full density of information, drag tags to notes or vice versa, search is lightning fast - again, counts on all notebooks and tags, scrolling of the snippet list back to normal speed, etc etc. All the complaints from these threads - gone! It's wonderful.

Evernote has resumed its complete usefulness - brilliant! All i have to do now is ignore all updates until these forums tell me that everything has been fixed. I rely on Evernote far too much to be mucking about. Even my fully customized toolbar is back to the way I want it. Wonderful :))

Now, as it has been a couple of weeks since I "upgraded" to v5.0., can anyone remember what the most recent version was on the Mac before the v5 upgrade? I have v3.0.6 here, but if I can find a later version, but pre v5, I'll install that.

Just as a thought - does Evernote have an FTP repository with previous versions that we can access?

Now if only I could do the same with the iPhone and particularly the iPad versions - but I can't find the previous versions to use to downgrade :(

At least on the Mac, Evernote life is good again.

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Well, after finding so many things that were either missing, or harder to use, I finally gave in. I found version 3.0.6 in my downloads folder, and have reinstalled that. It took a while, re-indexing, converting, and building thumbnails etc, but when it popped back on screen, I breathed a huge sigh of relief. Full density of information, drag tags to notes or vice versa, search is lightning fast - again, counts on all notebooks and tags, scrolling of the snippet list back to normal speed, etc etc. All the complaints from these threads - gone! It's wonderful.

Evernote has resumed its complete usefulness - brilliant! All i have to do now is ignore all updates until these forums tell me that everything has been fixed. I rely on Evernote far too much to be mucking about. Even my fully customized toolbar is back to the way I want it. Wonderful :))

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At least on the Mac, Evernote life is good again.

Likewise, it's cool ice water in comparison. It just 'works'.

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

I have no problem typing advanced searches. What is happening when you try to type it?

It searches for notes that include the text "tag:1-Now" in them. There is no autocompletion for tags like there was before.

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

I have no problem typing advanced searches. What is happening when you try to type it?

It searches for notes that include the text "tag:1-Now" in them. There is no autocompletion for tags like there was before.

Once you have typed a couple of searches in there, you will see recent searches, and you can tap on one of those to jump to where you want to go. I think this would be the feature in lieu of auto-completion within the text field.

My recommendation would be to make saved searches for each of these and then drag them into the Shortcuts. This will make it a relatively easy matter to immediately go to the searches without having to type anything.

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

I have no problem typing advanced searches. What is happening when you try to type it?

It searches for notes that include the text "tag:1-Now" in them. There is no autocompletion for tags like there was before.

Once you have typed a couple of searches in there, you will see recent searches, and you can tap on one of those to jump to where you want to go. I think this would be the feature in lieu of auto-completion within the text field.

My recommendation would be to make saved searches for each of these and then drag them into the Shortcuts. This will make it a relatively easy matter to immediately go to the searches without having to type anything.

The whole point of having a search bar is to be flexible - if you need to make saved searches for everything you might want to do during the day, it ceases to be flexible.

Another case in point: I click on one of my saved searches, and it shows the one note that matches. I think click on one of the tags in the search bar, and I get a dropdown of all the tags. But if I change that tag using the drop down, it doesn't change what notes are shown. So what I'm showing in the search bar has no bearing on what is actually found. The work-around is to start typing something because then it performs the search wit the new tag, and then delete what you just typed.

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Everything seems/looks great, only issue for me is the "Command F" function will randomly not work. As a student, switching back and forth between notebooks and documents makes this a very time-saving shortcut. Not sure why "Command F" is not consistent, but would be great to get it to work as well as it did in previous versions.

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What happened to search short-cuts? I can't type "tag:2-Next" anymore, I have to click down on the "Add Search Option", choose "Tag", choose which tag from another dropdown, and then choose "Add to Search" from another button. Oh, and if I click on a tag in an existing search and change it, it doesn't perform the new search.

I have no problem typing advanced searches. What is happening when you try to type it?

It searches for notes that include the text "tag:1-Now" in them. There is no autocompletion for tags like there was before.

Once you have typed a couple of searches in there, you will see recent searches, and you can tap on one of those to jump to where you want to go. I think this would be the feature in lieu of auto-completion within the text field.

My recommendation would be to make saved searches for each of these and then drag them into the Shortcuts. This will make it a relatively easy matter to immediately go to the searches without having to type anything.

The whole point of having a search bar is to be flexible - if you need to make saved searches for everything you might want to do during the day, it ceases to be flexible.

Another case in point: I click on one of my saved searches, and it shows the one note that matches. I think click on one of the tags in the search bar, and I get a dropdown of all the tags. But if I change that tag using the drop down, it doesn't change what notes are shown. So what I'm showing in the search bar has no bearing on what is actually found. The work-around is to start typing something because then it performs the search wit the new tag, and then delete what you just typed.

You are correct. This is definitely a bug.

If I do a search for "tag:bibliography" and allow the special search options to take over (dark gray "tag" + light gray "bibliography") then if I click on the word bibliography and change it to "history" no search occurs. It appears that the developers designed it so that we could click on the tags and easily change them to make new searches, but something has gone wrong somewhere along the way. Hopefully, we can get this sorted out and fixed in the next update.

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