Support Right to Left (RTL) direction

[mostafa 29]

hi

it would be quite nice to support right to left writing direction for languages such as Hebrew, Arabic and Persian.

it is really hard to write and read when writing in left to right in those languages.

thanks.

[adame jadid 0]

We are pretty close to end of 2017 and still no news

[Karizmo 0]

On 3/13/2017 at 7:12 PM, Amir All said:

So here is a Medium essay I wrote on the matter

How Evernote is solving The Middle East’s conflict

I suggest the evernote team takes over the Middle East crisis, and they will sure to unite all the Semitic peoples together like they already did with simply dropping RTL support.

[Adpk 0]

Hi

RTL language still doesn't work properly. 

Do you have any plans to fix this issue? 

Please update so that users can look for alternatives in case you have no plans to provide proper editing of RTL languages. 

I'm writing this because one thread from 2016 ended up without solution and this problem is still not resolved after one and a half year. 

[Karizmo 0]

I'm afraid that the team at evernote declared mutiny on board, this is why they are not able to correct this bug or rhinoceros that they introduced into their code in 2016. 

Will the mutiny end before the end of this year? It remains to be seen ...

I will stay tuned for the sequel!!!

 

 لو سمحتم يا جماعة إفرنوت، أخبرونا عن المستجدات بهذا الشأن، فقد نفكر بوضع البرنامج ضمن الوصية ...

وشكرا جزيلا على الإهتمام الفائق.

[JohnBow1 0]

You can use Laverna, it's open source.

https://laverna.cc/

It's amazing that still, no RTL support.

[lancerm 0]

I write in Persian but Evernote does not support such typing. Please fix this and update me as soon as this has been done

[RobertCCastel 0]

The same problem.

 

[OhadGalor 0]

A company this big should be ashamed.

Issue open for 2 years. That must be a record. 

[Amir All 14]

Hello. 

Imagin you want to write a note and suddenly, the text is acting weird all of the sudden: A word ends up at the end of the sentence, the rest of the sentence after that word. After a couple of that incident, your input is rendered unreadable. 

So. This is how the middle eastern, are experiencing @EverNote right now. Being one of those middle eastern, I find it unbearable to use Evernote. There already have been topics on this matter, and they have been ignored. 

I would love it if Evernote team reconsiders this important and vital feature. 

Thank you. 

[Amir All 14]

I'm still talking with support to bring attention to this issue. 

Please support by reaching out and asking for RTL-support, once again.

[Guest damafo26]

 I see that Evernote doesn't support Farsi language (also called Parsi or Persian) as well as enough. One of the problems that I can tell the community now is this:

Android app and web app (I don't know about the others) show every text which is typed in Farsi in a wrong order and also it's hard to be edited because this problem is not just about showing; In Evernote web app it's very hard to remove characters, select words, copy, and etc. 

You should add an option to switch left-to-right and right-to-left order. Pay attention: You should add it for showing and editing both.

[kmirza1 0]

Yes, very important to add Arabic support

[LL2525 12]

Am I dreaming...??? After all these years has Evernote finally added RTL support (Right-to-Left direction) for their "Evernote for Windows" ?

For the first time,  I've just succeeded creating a RTL Hebrew note without the need to use any workarounds.

For RTL note (Hebrew for example):
(make sure your EN/HE keyboard is on HE)

- New Note (or ctrl-N) to create a new note
- Enter the title
- Press the RIGHT cltrl-shift of the keyboard
- Start typing.

I haven't yet fully tested it but it seems to work well.
No issues with punctuation marks, numbers and adding English text.

My Evernote version is now 6.10 . Can someone with 6.11 please confirm that 6.11 also supports RTL (because there's no mention of it  in the changelog) ?

And Finally, if the functionality is really OK, can someone (@gazumped maybe ?) please ask the Evernote developers to add 2 direction buttons (RTL & LTR) to the Customize Toolbar window.

Win 7 x64
Evernote 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387)

[LL2525 12]

They finally added it !!     See my new post here -

 

[Dave-in-Decatur 1,376]

Thanks for the notification! I see that this applies to the Windows program. Do you know whether it's working in Android yet?

[gazumped 7,512]

@LL2525 Hi.  I don't have any special powers around here,  but you could post a request for extra RTL buttons in the Feedback forums,  or via https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action if you're a subscriber,  Twitter - https://twitter.com/evernotehelps if not.   I do use 6.11 and I'm sorry that using your listing above I can't produce RTL text.  Maybe there's a setting I'm missing...

[Tasneem J 0]

8 hours ago, LL2525 said:

Am I dreaming...??? After all these years has Evernote finally added RTL support (Right-to-Left direction) for their "Evernote for Windows" ?

For the first time,  I've just succeeded creating a RTL Hebrew note without the need to use any workarounds.

For RTL note (Hebrew for example):
(make sure your EN/HE keyboard is on HE)

- New Note (or ctrl-N) to create a new note
- Enter the title
- Press the RIGHT cltrl-shift of the keyboard
- Start typing.

I haven't yet fully tested it but it seems to work well.
No issues with punctuation marks, numbers and adding English text.

My Evernote version is now 6.10 . Can someone with 6.11 please confirm that 6.11 also supports RTL (because there's no mention of it  in the changelog) ?

And Finally, if the functionality is really OK, can someone (@gazumped maybe ?) please ask the Evernote developers to add 2 direction buttons (RTL & LTR) to the Customize Toolbar window.

Win 7 x64
Evernote 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387)

Hello

I just installed the latest version on windows 10 laptop, and am happy to say that using the above method, I can type in RTL. 

thanks

[LL2525 12]

@Dave-in-Decatur Hi, I run the same Evernote Android app v. 7.17.1 on Samsung Galaxy s5. Still No RTL support for me either.

Until RTL support is added to the mobile app I'll keep using my workaround : I keep an "almost empty" RTL note template and whenever I need to create a new RTL note, I just tap the "duplicate" (from the 3 dots menu) , rename the title and start typing in RTL.

Now that Evernote for Windows started to support RTL it is obviously easier to create the template (create it in Evernote for Windows and it will be synced to the mobile app).

[LL2525 12]

21 hours ago, gazumped said:

.   I do use 6.11 and I'm sorry that using your listing above I can't produce RTL text.  Maybe there's a setting I'm missing...

I just updated to 6.11. from 6.10. The right-ctrl-shift still works . These are my "note" settings (I don't think I changed many of the defaults). If you want you can try testing again with them.

Win 7 x64 , Evernote 6.11

[gazumped 7,512]

@LL2525 Thanks for the assist,  but your settings look the same as mine:  don't know what I'm doing wrong,  but as long as this works for users that need it I'm happy! 

[nimrodm 0]

this is a real disadvantage of evernote,  is this going to be solved in future versions?

it is also not possible to write Hebrew & English together in the same sentence .

an example:

רשימת משימות:
1.ללכת לסופר 
2. לקנות 5 עגבניות
3.להתקשר ל david cohen 
4. לקרוא את הספר החדש של jhon grisham 

 

[Rivka 0]

 

Shalom!

I have downloaded your application and enjoy using it.

If I may ask, there is a feature that can be very helpful: a correct right to left languages text representing.

When I write in Hebrew, for example, the text alignment is left, and the cursor stays anyway on the right side of the row.

When I read a ready note in Hebrew, the text alignment is also left.

This problem makes writing/reading in right to left languages really difficult.

It will be great if you could work up this function. It could enable much more people enjoying your app.

Thank you for developing this comfortable application! It is really helpful.

[vahidahmad 0]

I'm using latest version 6.11.2.7027  ,   and tried all suggestions and workarounds with no chance!   

[LL2525 12]

@vahidahmad,have you tried the latest suggestion (It works for me on Win7 x64. I have the same evernote 6.11.2.7027 like you) ? Which windows version do you have ?

On 4/10/2018 at 8:08 PM, LL2525 said:

For RTL note (Hebrew for example):

(make sure your EN/HE keyboard is on HE)

- New Note (or ctrl-N) to create a new note
- Enter the title
- Press the RIGHT-cltrl-shift of the keyboard
- Start typing.

 

[Boaz D 0]

4 Years and no real BIDI to your product. This actually not acceptable. No road map, total ignore from LTR users

 

[danny.hecht@gmail.com 0]

Same Problem

[kaliunis 1]

I use EverNote for journals on my Social Media Audiences. Hindi is important for part of this. I type Hindi in EverNote...use Engish or other European Languages or Sino-Nipon-Korean group languages to milestone items paragraphs etc and, because EverNote does note accept Hindi Titles, the same languages for titles.

Maybe India is in a comfortable position to make an adequate bursary to EverNote Development to put Hindi on the EverNote Map.

Paper DropBox accepts Devanagari but minus the power of EverNote Categories and other choice goodies.

 

Let's see.

[ArielR. 0]

 

I second it's very disappointing, and as a result, I'm considering a purchase for me and my team other solutions out there that support it.

 

[aprilpearls 0]

I request to hear a valid reasoning why Evernote is refusing to add Arabic as a language despite the amount of users between Arabs and the ranking of the Arab language as a language used by millions around the world . It is been years .. your forum is full of requests and people supporting them. Is there a hint of arrogance in your attitude not to even respond to their requests ? 

[HAMEDHASHEMI 0]

I just gave up and sent them a goodbye tweet: 

"@evernote I’ve eventually decided to stop using Evernote & cancel my subscription. Evernote developers seem determined to ignore users’ demand to support Right-to-Left languages -for YEARS- I’ve been an optimist and loyal user for a long time. It’s time to go."

 

[ghalibmeer 5]

Yeah,,, using it for very few things now

[M.T 1]

2018 and the problem is still there in Arabic and Hebrew!!!

This is something that has been figured out maybe 15 years ago, and they still can't fix it!

This is ridiculous

Evernote has turned into a joke.

[Mishkafofer 3]

Join the line.

I sent a request few years ago for RTL support. I got very supportive message but that about all.

Its not like Hebrew is the only freak language with Right to Left direction, what about Arabic? 

In the meantime I am making Lemonade by forcing myself to write in English. I sure need a practice.

[Shaulian 1]

This is part of the reason I stopped being a paying user. There are other more Hebrew friendly apps.

[itwocir@gmail.com 1]

In the name of God

hi

try Ctrl + Shift ( right hand shift ) for type right to left

and

try Ctrl + Shift ( left hand shift ) for type left to right

thanks

Hope to God

[Hadi7666 0]

Despite the love of evernot I have to replace it with other app. After six years, a small bug does not fix ... it's best to be replaced

[ashmid 0]

Yes! As a premium user, I anxiously await RTL support.

[Maryamh 0]

On 2/15/2018 at 8:20 PM, Amir All said:

Hello. 

Imagin you want to write a note and suddenly, the text is acting weird all of the sudden: A word ends up at the end of the sentence, the rest of the sentence after that word. After a couple of that incident, your input is rendered unreadable. 

So. This is how the middle eastern, are experiencing @EverNote right now. Being one of those middle eastern, I find it unbearable to use Evernote. There already have been topics on this matter, and they have been ignored. 

I would love it if Evernote team reconsiders this important and vital feature. 

Thank you. 

1

It's an extremely vital feature for RTL languages, many people are asking for it and still nothing. pleas reprioritize it!! 

It so annoying!!! every time I need to write in google docs and then copy past it back to Evernote hoping it's still fine!  

[pomichali 0]

I'm writing in Hebrew and Evernote doesn't support it' making it really inconvenient and not enjoyable to make notes, making me use it in much less opportunities that I would/could otherwise... Please give us that option...

[Tzahi 0]

Hi, any news? @EverNote

[PavelM 0]

Missing such a functionality for so long... Maybe Evernote team is antisemitic ??? For my RTL business needs I simply use OneNote.

[gazumped 7,512]

I believe there are several RTL languages.  Evernote hasn't yet commented on whether or when it might be able to deal with any of them - in fact it almost never comments on its future plans or upcoming releases.

[aali 1]

Waiting for Evernote to support Arabic, Persian and Urdu languages.

[gazumped 7,512]

I understand the frustration but Evernote has thousands of user feature requests for many different aspects of its operation - including the ones that still don't work properly.  They're presumably working through them as quickly as possible,  but they'll prioritise bug-fixing and the features in highest demand first.  Maybe RTL hasn't got to the top of the list yet.

Usual advice probably already in this thread:  if you can't live without a feature - find an app the delivers and stick with that.  If you can live with work-arounds,  then stick around for a while and see what happens.  Users' choice.

[Amin Jabari 0]

On 7/4/2018 at 8:03 PM, Lucas Cardoso said:

In my computer if you press CTRL + Shift (the shift on the right), it will change to RTL writing. And if you press CTRL + Shift (the shift on the left), it will return to LTR writing. But I don't know what to do with the version for android.

Thank you for your answer. 

 there is a simple way to overcome this problem in Android and web

Open a blank office word note on your computer and write a letter in RTL language. Then align that text right. Select all and copy the letter

Next, open a new note in Evernote and past.

I use this note as a template and I have added it to my shortcuts. every time I need to have new note, I just duplicate this note and start to write from right to left.

[Tauqeer 0]

This feature is really necessary in 2019. Should be available in basic version as well.

[gazumped 7,512]

An Evernote employee commented recently in another thread that they're working on a new editor,  which is both good and bad news.  Good,  because it might allow an RTL style when it is available,  but bad that Evernote is unlikely to spend time and effort on the existing setup until the new module is ready - and no one has said when that might be.  When any changes are made,  I'm sure they will be available to all account types - subscribers get the same features with higher limits,  email access and helplines.

[gazumped 7,512]

Hi.  Whilst it's been in demand for several years,  this feature has (currently) 51 votes as against 400+ for other features that are also outstanding. 

My post above yours mentions that Evernote are again(?) rewriting their text editor,  which may then include RTL features.  Some browsers already include the option - I'm currently using the Chrome-clone browser Brave,  which seem to work on Evernote Web too (although notes return to LTR if viewed in the Evernote apps...)

[DTLow 4,762]

1 hour ago, hassanmb said:

Why do I have to vote?!

There are many development projects and the work has to be prioritized.

One of the factors is the user interest in specific features, as indicated in the user votes

>>No brainer

[gazumped 7,512]

2 hours ago, hassanmb said:

Stop giving excuses to EN. It makes things worse!

Not excusing Evernote,  just pointing out they have work in hand which might benefit you.  

[Daphny 0]

Pleaseeee add this!!! 

[gazumped 7,512]

On 2/14/2020 at 10:14 PM, persian said:

Please Care about us!!!

Hi.  See https://evernote.com/blog/2020-update-progress-road-ahead/

 

[me@alexkubica.com 2]

On 4/10/2018 at 8:08 PM, LL2525 said:

Am I dreaming...??? After all these years has Evernote finally added RTL support (Right-to-Left direction) for their "Evernote for Windows" ?

For the first time,  I've just succeeded creating a RTL Hebrew note without the need to use any workarounds.

For RTL note (Hebrew for example):
(make sure your EN/HE keyboard is on HE)

- New Note (or ctrl-N) to create a new note
- Enter the title
- Press the RIGHT cltrl-shift of the keyboard
- Start typing.

I haven't yet fully tested it but it seems to work well.
No issues with punctuation marks, numbers and adding English text.

My Evernote version is now 6.10 . Can someone with 6.11 please confirm that 6.11 also supports RTL (because there's no mention of it  in the changelog) ?

And Finally, if the functionality is really OK, can someone (@gazumped maybe ?) please ask the Evernote developers to add 2 direction buttons (RTL & LTR) to the Customize Toolbar window.

Win 7 x64
Evernote 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387)

Thanks man, this did the job for me.

[Roy2012 2]

Evernote - 

First, the fact that you're still not supporting RTL is somewhat embarrassing. 

Second, you were able to bring people who speak Arabic, Parsi, and Hebrew to agree on something - and the only thing they typically agree on is the desire to kill each other. Now that you've made your mark on world peace you can just release RTL. 

  

[Dr. Hasan Bjaili 1]

It is ridicules. Eight years to implement an RTL functionality!! Enough is enough. We have being paying for your service and putting up with the awkward text alignment to substitutes for RTL.

OneNote is also free with no limitation except storage. It cost me $80 for a whole year to enjoy full Office365 service including, Word, Excel, OneNote, etc. compare to around $50 I pay for Evernote Premium. Every time, I decide to move to OneNote, I say to myself may be, Evernote will do it soon. 

• Arabic
• Aramaic
• Azeri
• Dhivehi/Maldivian
• Hebrew
• Kurdish (Sorani)
• Persian/Farsi
• Urdu

 

All the above languages are RTL and I am sure lots of their speakers are using Evernote.

Cuddling time is over. You need to put a definite date for RTL support or I will ditch Evernote and go with OneNote.

ENOUGH IS  ENOUGH

[gazumped 7,512]

6 hours ago, Dr. Hasan Bjaili said:

You need to put a definite date for RTL support

Hi.  You're talking to a -mainly- user-supported forum,  so we can't provide any information on Evernote's future plans - and In the 10 or so years I've used the app the company has never,  to my knowledge,  promised "we'll be launching that next week" or offered any similar information on delivery dates for new features. 

The thing with Evernote,  as with any software,  is that it's a tool.  Use it if it does what you need,  find an alternative if not.  They seem to be working on a fairly major rewrite of the entire package - not just bolting on one extension or another.  When it's ready,  they'll release - and I'd be very happy for them to be really really sure that any new version is as bug free and efficient as possible before that is done.

I understand that its very frustrating that RTL is not yet available - but there are hundreds of other user-requested upgrades outstanding and Evernote will (I hope) be addressing a lot of those too...

[mubed 3]

@gazumped You're right about promissing features for a certain date. I'm a software engineer and have to repeat that in every second meeting for some managers, but what @Dr. Hasan Bjaili says is also true. Evernote is for many of us not just a free tool, you can choose to use or not. At the moment you have some paying customers, who need features essentially, you have to pay attention to their needs.

This topic is just an example. I've been using Evernote for many years.You could see that they started with good innovative features for that time and the tool was great enough for the people to pay for it. Then the development was actually stopped! Of course, it is the choice of the developer to improve the software or not, but you see where OneNote is now and what you get for that fair price. So if you have contacts to the company management, please tell them -- and this is neither criticism nor a threat, but a friendly advice between "colleagues", they don't have much time to launch their super duper new fantastic release. Customers have already started to say goodbye for other tools!

[Dr. Hasan Bjaili 1]

@mubed  and @gazumped  Bingo! They don't have much time to toddle to get to a big super duper release.

Look around! How many software were in the top and suddenly started to take steep dive to the ground. Alot!! For me the reason why I am sticking to Evernote? Because It was  kinda the first note taking software with reasonable features back then and I don't want to take the hassle of migrating. However, OneNote have a utility to import Notes.  But now, there are lots of alternatives. Competitors are flying entering the market see the Youtube below.

Another limitation of Evernote is  not having multiple Notebooks and the hassle of using tags is another hurdle. How many people cried, screamed, begged to have multiple notebook and there is no life to those you calling!

Bottom line, Evernote does not listen to their customers and that is not healthy. Once they wake up, they will notice someone took control of the market and they went bankrupt.

 

 

 

[gazumped 7,512]

3 hours ago, Dr. Hasan Bjaili said:

someone took control of the market and they went bankrupt.

They're a company with more users than the population of a small country - like Japan - with multi-billion-dollar financing.  It'll be a while before they close the doors...

[Dr. Hasan Bjaili 1]

7 hours ago, gazumped said:

They're a company with more users than the population of a small country - like Japan - with multi-billion-dollar financing.  It'll be a while before they close the doors...

Evernote has 360K active users and ~13K paid ones.

I think Evernote is dying

Please read:

https://medium.com/@francescod_ales/the-3-stages-of-evernotes-fall-1a97db52a87f

 

https://www.profitwell.com/blog/evernote-tradeoffs

 

Thx

 

 

[gazumped 7,512]

2 hours ago, Dr. Hasan Bjaili said:

Please read:

Duly noted - I think Francesco changed his view after that 2-year old piece,  and there are many more clips around on both sides of the argument. I guess we'll find out in due course whether any of those predictions (both pro and con) were any good...

[Avinatbezeq 0]

On 4/10/2018 at 8:08 PM, LL2525 said:

Am I dreaming...??? After all these years has Evernote finally added RTL support (Right-to-Left direction) for their "Evernote for Windows" ?

For the first time,  I've just succeeded creating a RTL Hebrew note without the need to use any workarounds.

For RTL note (Hebrew for example):
(make sure your EN/HE keyboard is on HE)

- New Note (or ctrl-N) to create a new note
- Enter the title
- Press the RIGHT cltrl-shift of the keyboard
- Start typing.

I haven't yet fully tested it but it seems to work well.
No issues with punctuation marks, numbers and adding English text.

My Evernote version is now 6.10 . Can someone with 6.11 please confirm that 6.11 also supports RTL (because there's no mention of it  in the changelog) ?

And Finally, if the functionality is really OK, can someone (@gazumped maybe ?) please ask the Evernote developers to add 2 direction buttons (RTL & LTR) to the Customize Toolbar window.

Win 7 x64
Evernote 6.10.3.6921 (306921) Public (CE Build ce-1.39.4387)

 

כן, אבל אין תיקון שגיאות

[Nader 0]

okey its 7 years now since this was requested by your customers, what have you did about it? absolutely nothing?

[gazumped 7,512]

23 hours ago, Nader said:

okey its 7 years now since this was requested by your customers, what have you did about it? absolutely nothing?

? From the comments above yours it seems like there have been some changes... but in general this isn't a forum to submit orders for bespoke systems; feature requests are just that: requests - to be implemented when the company agrees they are appropriate and feels they can add the feature in a cost-effective manner. 

[Nader 0]

On 5/6/2020 at 10:53 AM, Avinatbezeq said:

 

כן, אבל אין תיקון שגיאות

No i dont think RTL is really added, i'm on arabic keyboard and indeed RTL isnt working..

[Nader 0]

On 5/6/2020 at 10:53 AM, Avinatbezeq said:

 

כן, אבל אין תיקון שגיאות

I'm on version 6.24.2.8919 here (windows 10)

[Nader 0]

On 5/25/2020 at 9:30 PM, gazumped said:

? From the comments above yours it seems like there have been some changes... but in general this isn't a forum to submit orders for bespoke systems; feature requests are just that: requests - to be implemented when the company agrees they are appropriate and feels they can add the feature in a cost-effective manner. 

Yes i was expressing my frustration about a "request" not being fulfilled.

[Itzik 0]

Voting for this feature request - it's really necessary!

[winternote 0]

Could adding rtl support be as easy as explained in this article 👇

 

https://android.jlelse.eu/rtl-support-on-android-here-is-all-you-need-know-e13f2df512e2

[gazumped 7,512]

On 8/7/2020 at 9:34 PM, winternote said:

Could adding rtl support be as easy as explained in this article 👇

https://android.jlelse.eu/rtl-support-on-android-here-is-all-you-need-know-e13f2df512e2

OK - now all we have to do is figure out Windows / iOS / MacOS...

[Doombrigade 1]

I can't believe we are more than half way through 2020, and we still don't have RTL

A huge population of Arabic and Hebrew speakers who might feel as if evernote simply dosn't care much for us, as its been more than 5 years and still no support. 

 

 

[LL2525 12]

21 hours ago, Ali Mayali said:

I just installed the latest beta version, I was hoping for the RTL support but unfortunately its worse now. Ctrl+right shift wont turn text direction. Deleting app now.

1. Not only on the beta version.
2. But only yesterday.
It has happened to me, yesterday , September 3rd, on the stable Windows version (6.25.1.9091 win 7 x64)
Today, September 4th it is working fine.

It will be helpful if more users report on their experience on the next few days (beta and non-beta users).

[Ytil 0]

Hi, me too, so many requests for RTL support for many years now, please do something, to gain your millions of potential users.

Hebrew Arabic.....

[mehatzri 0]

Please add RTL support.

notes looks so unorganized and unreadable without it.. 

i consider exporting my data to another app that support RTL 

[gazumped 7,512]

14 hours ago, mehatzri said:

Please add RTL support.

notes looks so unorganized and unreadable without it.. 

i consider exporting my data to another app that support RTL 

Do the new desktop clients support RTL?

[Nagihan 0]

Actually I had to start use OneNote coz of it's RTL support. I don't need Evernote system to be totally Arabic but at least they can provide a feature which let us use Arabic inside our own notes. I'm learning Arabic as a second language and I need to take my notes in Arabic sometimes. Before yearly subscription I spent hours to compare, in conclusion I did prefer Evernote, but when I start to learn Arabic, it is being unusable. Anyhow, it is enough to get used to a new system for human -being if you give enough time.