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Support Right to Left (RTL) direction


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hi it would be quite nice to support right to left writing direction for languages such as Hebrew, Arabic and Persian. it is really hard to write and read when writing in left to right in th

Hi All, You may have noticed that all threads requesting RTL (right-to-left) support have been merged into this thread, regardless of platform specificity.  This was done in order to better

Well it seems Evernote is not a serious product. I have been using the good Quickmemo app in my LG, but it's not compatible with other Androids. Thought Evernote would be the solution for writing note

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This feature is being requested frequently for a couple of years. The most promising reply so far can be found here, where EN says:

"We are currently evaluating the ability to add RTL support to our applications (RTL input at least)" (October 2011).

This is definitely more than just "thank you" but still not enough.. B)

However there is some workaround for RTL, provided that one is ready to use the web client in Chrome (see here), as follows:

1. While in Google Chrome, sign into your web account.

2. Press right-control+shift, and start typing RTL (right-to-left).

3. To get back to English-style LTR press left-control+shift.

BTW There is an add-on for Firefox - Force RTL - which presumably works with FF 3. I tried it (a year ago) with FF 7, just in case, but it didn't work..

Good luck.

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Hi,

I am not using evernote 100% specially for the missing of right to left.

All the other note taking app have this geature updated, and evernote not.

Example of app : together, Notebook, Markdown Pro, Yojimbo, deJumble ....

Best Regards,

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Hi,

I am not using evernote 100% specially for the missing of right to left.

All the other note taking app have this geature updated, and evernote not.

Example of app : together, Notebook, Markdown Pro, Yojimbo, deJumble ....

Best Regards,

You may want to try the latest Evernote Android beta, if you have an Android device, because it looks like Evernote has included RTL support in it.

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You may want to try the latest Evernote Android beta, if you have an Android device, because it looks like Evernote has included RTL support in it.

It is partial LTR - the text behaves well, but bullets don't.

Also when you open it from the Windows client it doesn't show it right.

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It is strange that we can use RTL in the iOS app but can't in Windows.

With other apps it used to be the other way around.

It us really is a serious limitation, especially since Microsoft supports it within Windows.

Any ideas when this support be added?

Itay

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I am getting ready for Evrenote Devcup by addressing this issue. I have developed an application called NimbleBox. NimbleBox is an easiest and quickest way of taking notes in the window with special support for Right-to-left languages! Just press Ctrl+Shift and type your note.


Check out the website: http://nimblebox.me


Check out the Demo Video: http://nimblebox.me/...box-demo-video/


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Please do add this feature - it's long overdue.

Lack of L2R is really preventing myself and countless others from fully integrating this amazing tool.

I'll have to explore using OneNote to create my notes in the meanwhile..though I'd love to use the Evernote Interface

 

Thank You

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Being said that it is a shame for Evernote not to support RTL, I have found a workaround for that problem.

 

  • Create an RTL file in another application and put multiple line breaks (hit "Enter" key multiple times) to create a large space for you to write/edit.
  • Then copy that file's content to a new note in Evernote, and name it "RTL sample note" for example.
  • Every time you need to create a new RTL file, copy that note to the required notebook and start editing it in RTL format.

Have a good time.  :) 

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Hi there everybody,

 

I just updated my macs' Evernote to the latest version, and something has changed.

 

Usually I'm writing in Hebrew. I had an option to set the paragraph direction to RTL (sadly, no such default option), and that would have set the note format to be kind of RTL note (kind-of because not all things worked correctly and some worked partially).

 

Now, with the new version, it still aligns the text to the right, but the "numbering" and "bulleting" does not work well.

As always, I select the entire text in the note editor, right click the selected text and chose "Paragraph Direction" -> "Right to left", This is causing the numbers to align to the right, and text will align to the left. Horrible :(

 

And there's this new option (or I just haven't saw it) which makes the note "plain text" .. what is this ?

 

Thank you for any help.

Shauli Antar

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Hi.  Sorry this topic seemed to get forgotten in the general traffic on the forums.  As to the OP's question on 'what does plain text do?' - that would be exactly what it says on the can.  Content gets converted to plain text - no bold,  italic or large text.  Try it out on some test text to see the full effect.  As to the buggy RTL situation,  check that you're up to date with the latest version of Evernote (downloaded from Evernote.com) and of the problem still exists I suggest you submit a bug report on this.  You won't get any follow-up,  but it does mean that the devs will take a look at your situation and (hopefully) fix it in a future release...  submit a bug/ lost data report by choosing "report a bug..." in the first dropdown after logging in here> https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action

 

Premium / Business users also have access to a Chat option (7am-7pm PST weekdays) - click 'continue' on the support page after logging in.
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Hi

 

Evernote program is very good and has many features. but there is a problem for Right-to-Left languages. which languages are rtl ? answer: Farsi(Persian) and Arabic. in evernote we can set align to right, but there is not any ltr to rtl changer and when be this problem the dot of end of sentence go first, and some other. Please add 'rtl direction' item to toolbox. Thankfully.

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I started working with Evernote on my Desktop (Windows).

 

It looks promissing, but lacks RTL support in the note Title and Editor, so not friendly to RTL languages.

Is this part of the product limitations or can I achieve this somehow?

 

Thanks!

Mor

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I started using Evernote a few months ago for dissertation research that involves using Arabic. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Arabic is supported, even on Mac, in terms of correctly displaying and connecting the letters. I have also been able to change the paragraph direction (RTL) by right clicking and selecting for it.

 

What is annoying, and what I'm hoping Evernote will address, is the fact that you have to go through this cumbersome right-click>paragraph direction>RTL process every time you switch languages. It would be brilliant (and other software does this) that selecting for a new language automatically puts it into the correct paragraph direction. I hope that's a feature that will come out soon? It will make for a much smoother user experience! 

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I am using the desktop application (premium account) on a mac. When working within a note, I right-click, select "Paragraph direction," and then select "right to left." 

 

I also just tried it on the web-based version. There, when you right-click, you can select "writing direction"and then "right to left."

 

Hope this helps!

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On 10/4/2012 at 1:49 PM, helix said:

However there is some workaround for RTL, provided that one is ready to use the web client in Chrome (see here), as follows:

1. While in Google Chrome, sign into your web account.

2. Press right-control+shift, and start typing RTL (right-to-left).

3. To get back to English-style LTR press left-control+shift.

 

Thanks @helix this works fine for me but I think it would be great if Evernote will make their Windows App RTL supportive.

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it's seems right to left does exist- but there are many problems related to aligning, numbering, bullets and text direction. i think you should let some right-to-left language users test the system and show you the bugs. if you need examples, screenshots etc.- i would be glad to assist.

thanks!

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So what's the story with rtl support?

coming or not?

I use Evernote In OS X, Windows and iOS, webapp couple of times in linux. 

Still no real rtl support yet on those devices. This is really frustrating for me as paying customer, 'coz I need that.

If it's not coming, I have to look up for alternatives and take my money to there.

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Hello,

I'm not sure that it's the place but I would like to request such a feature

The right to left support is very lacking currently in the mac app -

  1. You can't set in first place that the text is right to left (you have to do it after the text was created)
  2. When you add bullets - all becomes very messy... The bullets only allow left to right 

It would be highly appreciated by all Israeli users

 

Thanks!

 

Vit

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I am writing from right to left in Hebrew.

since this morning (after an upgrade of evernote I believe?) all my notes are shown from left to right and I can not read them.

I have evernote plus.

the problem appears in my windows pc and in my android Samsung galaxy as well.

please help how to write and show my notes from right to left as I did till today.

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Hello @aptowizard and @meirjean,

Thank you for posting. To make sure we are all on the same page, this started after a recent update to Evernote on Android, correct? Or did this start after an update to another Evernote application on a different device?

Do your notes still appear correctly on the Evernote website?

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Thank you @Matt W. for the attention,

 

This indeed started after the update to the Android app - I believe it has to do with your new editor, right after you guys posted that there's a new editor the issue started .

Writing & editing on the web is fine..

BTW - notes that were written in the past & are accessed now through the app are still ok - they are aligned to the right as they should but just new notes cannot be aligned to right.

Editing anything in Hebrew or Arabic is impossibly confusing (clicking at the end of a line will start typing at its beginning & the other way around).


I have high hopes with you helping Matt - I use the app all the time & would hate to have to switch service (300 million right-to-left language speakers would probably have to do the same..)

A big thank you in advance!!!

(p.s. I would be happy to help with any further questions until resolution, I'm also sure it's not a specific issue with me - opened Evernote at a friend's android phone & it's the same..)

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Thanks again @Matt W.!

Don't know if this helps but here's more info:

Your Windows desktop program always had some confusing issues with Right-to-Left texts - the cursor doesn't follow the text while typing but is instead stationary, remaining at the beginning of the line (which is very confusing for editing) & placing the cursor at the beginning of a line produces the same effect as the new Android update does (it starts writing at the end of the line instead - placing it at the end starts writing at the beginning..)

I've come to terms with this & although it could sometimes be really uncomfortable it's somehow manageable. (your Windows App BTW is perfect & doesn't have this problem at all but is just less comfortable with a non touch screen..)

Hope this helps & can't wait for the Android app to come back to normal - maybe on the way you might fix the Windows program cursor issue also!

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Hi

the problem still exist in my android.

the button of alignment is missing in the android while it does appear in the web or in the pc windows.

in my case all my previous notes which were written from write to left appear now in the pc windows and in the android from left to write.

the note on the web also appear the wrong way - from left to right.

that means it is impossible to read them.

I suppose it all began when there was an update in the android but I am not sure.

thanks Matt.

 

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On 5/20/2016 at 8:56 AM, Adambe said:

Something went wrong. No more RTL support. I use to write a lot in Hebrew but now it's impossible! Please fix this it can be done.

-Who's with me?

I'm defiantly with you!! We are in 2016 and still don't have rtl support

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HI,

I see this is an old discussion, but I was just trying to look for a solution for the same problem.

I am writing a list in Hebrew and it would be nice if it aligned on the right side.

I have tried the right click on a list in a new note or editing an existing list but I'm not finding how to get it to align on the right.

I have recently updated my evernote so I believe I have the latest version.

Thanks, Elana

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Me too! 
I will NOT Renew my subscription, If Evernote will not implement. This is getting ridiculous having text virtually unreadable for RTL Languages. Evernote is lagging far behind on this one.. 
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6 hours ago, meirjean said:

Hi @Matt W.,

Anything?

-Meir-

Hi Meir,

We are testing this out currently, but there is not any specific time frame I am able to provide on a release. Once I know more, I will be sure to let you all know.

Thanks!

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I use the Windows, Mac and Android versions and have been having RTL issues for years now. Generally speaking, paragraph direction isn't saved on notes. If you change it once in one place, it won't remember it.

Also Evernote Web doesn't support RTL very well.

This is kind of a problem since I find it hard to recommend Evernote to my primarily Hebrew-speaking friends and colleagues...

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Adiron: Have you experienced this on the desktop version? I'm also curious if you're using free vs. premium. I use Evernote on a daily basis in Arabic (desktop, premium version) and have never had an issue with it reverting to the wrong paragraph direction. I'm wondering if the glitch is specific to Hebrew, for some reason? Sorry I can't offer a solution. I'm just curious why RTL seems to be a problem for some users and not others, since I also recommend Evernote to colleagues who work in RTL languages. 

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I am an Arabic user and I would like to see Arabic fully supported in upcoming release of Evernote. I could use Arabic for notes but It appears in LTR direction. also Evernoe couldn't recognize scanable documents and cars for the lack of Arabic letter OCR. Arabic letter is used beside Arabic by Urdu, and Persian and other languages.

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No Hebrew support in either the Windows or Android apps!
Took me forever to try Evernote because I was an avid OneNote user.
Finally decided to try it, and to my horror, realized there is no RTL support....

On the Windows app, you can justify the text to the right, which is half of the way - but the punctuation still displays at the beginning of the line...

On the Android app, you can't even do that...

 

There is no way I'm paying for this app until this is fixed, and probably not going to wait for it either.....

Pitty, because other than that, it's fantastic.

Looking back in the forum, I see that this issue has been raised way back in 2012 already - I would have expected Evernote to fix this problem, not for the measly Hebrew speaking market share, but for the huge, HUGE, Arabic speaking market share....
 

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Hi @Matt W.,

I appreciate your efforts but this is just to let you know it's the first time I'm not renewing my premium account & I'm sad to say it

's for this reason :(

I've also stopped recommending Evernote to friends - I don't want them to be as frustrated as me with so much data with you already with just trying to figure out a way to transfer it to another service..

Good luck resolving this super critical issue for millions of users, if I've not completely moved to another service I would be sure to renew it once it resolves..

Please keep us posted.. :(
 

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I am in trouble in using Arabic at Evernote for Mac because it does not support inputting from right to left.

Therefore, I am forced to use Evernote Web in Google Chrome because that is the only version in which I can select writing from left or from right.

(I could not find the same option in other browsers including Firefox and Safari...)

After using Chrome, I see Arabic sentences wrote from right in other versions including Mac; so I believe that it will not be a difficult issue for developers to add this option.

I really hope this option will be introduced to all the versions you offer, considering that the fee was raised.

Thank you.

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I moved this to the feature request forum
Please indicate your support using the voting buttons in the upper left corner

This is also discussed at https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/96018-writing-from-right-to-left-in-hebrew-or-arabic/?do=findComment&comment=406915
indictating a bug that is being worked on

 

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Given the huge number of people who write in RTL languages, I'm surprised they haven't fixed this more quickly. Hopefully, it will not be long.

In the meantime, I've discovered a couple of things. I do sometimes write a few words in Hebrew (I don't know Arabic, so I can't test that). On my Android phone, I use a keyboard called Smart Keyboard Pro, precisely because it allows typing in a large number of languages, including RTL languages. I tried creating a new Evernote note and typing some Hebrew in it using Smart Keyboard Pro, and it typed correctly, right-to-left. Smart Keyboard Pro does include Arabic among its available languages. This might be a temporary measure that would work for some.

On Windows, I don't have Hebrew or Arabic implemented at the system level, but I do have Syriac, another RTL language, and I found I was able to get correct  RTL typing in an Evernote note when I selected Syriac as the language. I also use a word processor called Nota Bene, which has excellent facilities for writing both Hebrew and Arabic (though I admit I have not tested the Arabic!). When I write some Hebrew text in it and copy it to the Windows clipboard, then paste it into an Evernote note, it appears correctly formatted RTL, including word-wrap; and when I sync the note, it appears properly in Evernote on my Android phone. This might also work using RTL text created in Microsoft Word, but I'm not able to test that.

So there may be some workarounds: a RTL-capable keyboard in Android, and creating RTL text in a word processor in Windows and copying and pasting into Evernote. Not really solutions, but perhaps they may help someone get some work done in EN until the fix is implemented. Of course, I don't know what would happen to notes created in these ways when the fix happens!

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Dear Matt,

I am surprised this issue has not been solved so far. It seems to be pending for way more than half a year now. In Evernote it should be possible to write from left to right or right to left or bidirectional (text from right to left and numbers or citations from left to right. These are basic concepts of markup language. If the editor doesn't support RTL you cannot edit any note without getting totally frustrated. In this case Evernote will become useless for anybody who needs to edit text in Arabic, Hebrew or any other language which is BIDI or RTL. This probably has cost Evernote already a quite number of premium members.

For example:

The following text was written RTL. After pasting it here (or in Evernote) it is converted into LTR. So the full stop is at the right which is at the beginning of the sentence instead at the end. And this is just the beginning of the trouble.

للأسف لا أستطيع أن أتكلم العربية.

Could you please bring this issue to the attention of someone who is capable to make a decisions about fixing this ASAP?

Thank you.

 

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Same here, this is quite disappointing to have such a wonderful app without RTL support. not fixing this issue for more than 6 months show the priorities or the lack of them in addressing the issue.

Please fix this, it seriousely is hurting your returning customers.

Thank you.

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6 hours ago, Sht.Eitan said:

Same here, this is quite disappointing to have such a wonderful app without RTL support. not fixing this issue for more than 6 months show the priorities or the lack of them in addressing the issue.

Please fix this, it seriousely is hurting your returning customers.

Thank you.

Agreed 

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25 minutes ago, ghalibmeer said:

Agreed 

Amen

@Matt W. we're happy you'r not ignoring us (that would have just made me drop the use of the app completely) but please, this is crazy, I keep using the app & recording all my notes in it in such an uncomfortable way (every time I type in it I'm frustrated but keep believing it'll soon be fixed) - please don't abuse our patience- is there any expected time line for this to finally get fixed?

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