Boatguy 49 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I was shocked (really) to see that Shared Notebooks, even those for which I have "modify" permission, are displayed totally separately from my own Notebooks.I see EN as a collaboration tool and this distinction is a pain. I want all my Notebooks in one place. A Notebook which can be modified by three people in my group may be "owned" by one person and "subscribed to" by the others, but it's still a shared resource.Yes, there should be some indication regarding the attributes of each Notebook (such as that it is Shared and whether or not it can be modified), but they should not be isolated into a separate list. Let me organize all my Notebooks, whether or not I created or own each one, as I see fit, not with an imposed structure. If I want them in a separate list (aka Stack), I'll organize them that way. If I want a Stack to contain a mix of shared and person Notebooks, that is my choice.I hope that this distinction is some sort of legacy mindset from when there were no shared Notebooks and can be addressed in the near future. Link to comment
peterfmartin 221 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Search the forums for "shared notebooks," especially posts by Heather, for more information about why this is and how it may be changing "soon."For now, I would say Evernote is a very bad collaboration tool. Link to comment
Level 5* Metrodon 2,162 Posted May 13, 2012 Level 5* Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'm with Peter - I've no idea why you would look at Evernote as tool for collaboration. Link to comment
Level 5* GrumpyMonkey 4,314 Posted May 13, 2012 Level 5* Share Posted May 13, 2012 I was shocked (really) to see that Shared Notebooks, even those for which I have "modify" permission, are displayed totally separately from my own Notebooks.I see EN as a collaboration tool and this distinction is a pain. I want all my Notebooks in one place. A Notebook which can be modified by three people in my group may be "owned" by one person and "subscribed to" by the others, but it's still a shared resource.Yes, there should be some indication regarding the attributes of each Notebook (such as that it is Shared and whether or not it can be modified), but they should not be isolated into a separate list. Let me organize all my Notebooks, whether or not I created or own each one, as I see fit, not with an imposed structure. If I want them in a separate list (aka Stack), I'll organize them that way. If I want a Stack to contain a mix of shared and person Notebooks, that is my choice.I hope that this distinction is some sort of legacy mindset from when there were no shared Notebooks and can be addressed in the near future.i agree. even if you don't use it for collaboration, it would be nice to have the content of shared notebooks included in search results. why wouldn't you want to be able to access other people's memories? Link to comment
Boatguy 49 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 My bad. Seems like at least a great idea for a collaboration tool, but apparently not what EN had in mind.Anybody have a suggestion for what product would be a good EN like collaboration tool? Web cllpping is particularly useful. Link to comment
Boatguy 49 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Search the forums for "shared notebooks," especially posts by Heather, for more information about why this is and how it may be changing "soon."For now, I would say Evernote is a very bad collaboration tool.Good recommendation. I searched Heather's posts and found the whole story. I think this could all have been avoided if they called them "Published" Notebooks rather than "Shared". The product architecture apparently never envisioned collaboration. Link to comment
CCSPRM 1 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I too, maybe mistakenly, assumed Evernote to be a tool for collaboration among other things. I've been trying to find for the past half hour an answer to a question... Can an "account" (its own email address and password) not a "shared folder" be used by a number of people to collaborate on a project? If not, why not? And if not, can anyone recommend something capable of doing so? Link to comment
peterfmartin 221 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Can an "account" (its own email address and password) not a "shared folder" be used by a number of people to collaborate on a project? If not, why not? And if not, can anyone recommend something capable of doing so?Technically, yes. Is that a good idea? Maybe.Think about it this way: If you can sign in to and use your account on half a dozen different devices, half a dozen different people working on their own devices can sign in to the same account and share things with each other that way. But what happens when one person makes a change to a note or many notes? The others get no notification. Reverting back to old versions of notes is possible if the account is premium, but it's not a particularly good function to lean on, since old versions are only saved every eight hours or so, so many changes can be lost forever. And notes accidentally deleted could be lost forever, without the ability to get them back.If you're just collaborating on files, Dropbox is very easy to use, will notify you of changes, and will save old versions of files. For Google Docs, Drive is now also an option, and it's especially good for real-time collaboration. Unfortunately, however, I don't know of anything that offers Evernote's full functionality and robust collaborating capabilities. Link to comment
CCSPRM 1 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Can an "account" (its own email address and password) not a "shared folder" be used by a number of people to collaborate on a project? If not, why not? And if not, can anyone recommend something capable of doing so?Technically, yes. Is that a good idea? Maybe.Think about it this way: If you can sign in to and use your account on half a dozen different devices, half a dozen different people working on their own devices can sign in to the same account and share things with each other that way. But what happens when one person makes a change to a note or many notes? The others get no notification. Reverting back to old versions of notes is possible if the account is premium, but it's not a particularly good function to lean on, since old versions are only saved every eight hours or so, so many changes can be lost forever. And notes accidentally deleted could be lost forever, without the ability to get them back.If you're just collaborating on files, Dropbox is very easy to use, will notify you of changes, and will save old versions of files. For Google Docs, Drive is now also an option, and it's especially good for real-time collaboration. Unfortunately, however, I don't know of anything that offers Evernote's full functionality and robust collaborating capabilities.Thank you, Peter. After reading this post I searched collaboration applications and my golly there are a lot of them! There are 5 of us working on a ministry where we would like to post our progress based upon an outline, photos, etc. It's not complicated but it's more than file sharing. Thanks again for your help! Carole Link to comment
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