akevit 5 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm trying very hard to switch from Simplenote to Evernote as Evernote offers so many additional features, however, Simplenote's extremely simplistic approach to jotting notes down and having them everywhere immediately is hard to move away from.With Simplenote I use a program called ResophNotes and it innately synchronizes every X minutes and immediately upon exiting out of a note. If you haven't seen this functionality I'd really recommend you check it out and add this to Evernote. ResophNotes also has the following options:Minimize to System TrayMinimize when press ESCStart minimizedGlobal HotkeyEvernote has basically the same options. Evernote launches at startup (minimized) and I can call it from global hotkeys, however Evernote has the upper hand in that it also has a hotkey for going direct to a new note as well as one for opening Evernote (albeit called 'Find in Evernote'). The feature that it lacks is the ability to Minimize with ESC (I know you can press ALT+F4 but it's fairly universal to have ESC do the same thing or at least define the key that performs this function; Control+Q completely exits the program).TL;DR: Synchronize changes on exit does not seem to work. Please allow me to press the escape key to minimize the program (and also trigger the sync -- which it should if it's to sync changes on exit). When creating a new note (Control+Alt+N) the note should synchronize immediately upon closing it.Edit: It appears that pressing Control+Q does force the sync, however now Evernote is closed and the program needs to be relaunched for the Global Hotkeys to work. This only works for the program itself, it will not sync new notes via Ctrl+Alt+N after being created unless I load Evernote then press Control+Q to completely quit the program. Link to comment
Owyn 457 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The best you can do at this time is to set automatic sync to every 15 minutes.Tools -> Options -> Sync- Check "Synchronize automatically"- Select "Every 15 minutes" Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 That's unfortunate Link to comment
Owyn 457 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 C'est la vie.BTW. The latest beta (4.5.4.6170) also adds a checkbox for "Synchronize changes on exit". Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 C'est la vie.BTW. The latest beta (4.5.4.6170) also adds a checkbox for "Synchronize changes on exit".I saw that which is what got me to try Evernote again. Unfortunately by exit it means quit, so you need to quit Evernote for the synchronization to happen. By doing that the Global hotkeys are disabled which defeats the purpose I was trying to accomplish in the first place. Link to comment
Owyn 457 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 As I mentioned on the other thread. What you may want to use is F9 to force manual sync after creating a new note. Link to comment
Level 5 jbenson2 2,149 Posted February 16, 2012 Level 5 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I don't close Evernote during the day.To sync in Windows, if I want to do it manually, I hit F9, otherwise it will take care of itself in 15 minutes. Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 I don't close Evernote during the day.To sync in Windows, if I want to do it manually, I hit F9, otherwise it will take care of itself in 15 minutes.I really enjoy being able to call and dismiss the Window at whim, and knowing that the notes are synchronized right away. I'll see if I can live with the additional hotkeys needed to do what I want to do, I just came here to ask since I saw the new feature of sync on exit and couldn't figure out how to get it to work. I see now that it's Sync on Quit. Simplenote workflowControl+Shift+Z to load programControl+N to write noteEscape to exit note (syncing it) then escape again to minimize program to system trayEvernote Workflow (2 ways -- I'm aware the hotkeys can be changed)FirstControl+Alt+L to load programControl+N to create a new noteF9 to sync the noteAlt+F4 to minimize to system traySecondControl+Alt+N to create a new noteF9 to sync noteEscape to close noteAlbeit the second workflow has an equal amount of steps and hotkeys to use, using F9 is slightly annoying, and if I want to view the notes I have to use a different workflow. Please don't assume I'm bashing the program, I am just describing the workflows that I would use and possibly there's something I'm missing. Link to comment
Level 5 jbenson2 2,149 Posted February 16, 2012 Level 5 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I really enjoy being able to call and dismiss the Window at whim, and knowing that the notes are synchronized right away.I understand you are not bashing the program. Comments like yours have generated a lot of improvements in Evernote. I've gone through 53 EN upgrades since May 2010. I guess the difference is that I don't mind keeping Windows Evernote open, along with other programs and websites. If I closed Evernote after each web capture or new note, I would probably see your side better. Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've decided I"m still going to give it a shot and work with the different hotkeys. One of my main reasons for using Simplenote was the fact that I could share notes with other people for free, but I really don't use it enough to warrant that being the sole reason for my decision (it also allows for free offline notes, though I rarely need this feature). Hopefully they'll enable some additional sync optoins in the future to cover my *** in the event I forget to hit F9 before shutting down. Link to comment
Owyn 457 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Simplenote is a very good solution for plain text notes. In fact, it's limitations can make it a better solution than Evernote for notes where text must be maintained absolutely (e.g. code snippets). Link to comment
dlu 628 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thanks for posting. Have been following and will take it into account in future design decisions. Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Good to know, thank you. One other thing to check out is Simplenote's way of merging notes together if two users are typing and saving into the same note at the same time. Rather than creating a copy of the note, the lines that were changed or added are just merged according to date entry. An option that would be nice to have especially if sharing something simple like a Grocery list. Link to comment
mdalves 17 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 "Sync on exit" works fine when exiting Evernote (File / Exit) but does not work when just signing out (Tools / Sign Out). I did quick updates in some notes using my wife's computer some days ago and then signed out; now I'm using my own laptop and don't have those updated notes.Sync on exit should be expanded to "Sync on exit or sign out". Link to comment
dlu 628 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 "Sync on exit" works fine when exiting Evernote (File / Exit) but does not work when just signing out (Tools / Sign Out). I did quick updates in some notes using my wife's computer some days ago and then signed out; now I'm using my own laptop and don't have those updated notes. Sync on exit should be expanded to "Sync on exit or sign out". Thanks! Great feedback Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Please also add the option for Esc to minimize Evernote to System Tray and sync, this would be extremely helpful Link to comment
francola 1 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please also add the option for Esc to minimize Evernote to System Tray and sync, this would be extremely helpfulYes, please. This is the exact behavior I would like to see implemented as well. Link to comment
Pete C. 1 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi there. I am experiencing similar problem of this topic.I have a habit of right-clicking the Evernote icon at the system tray and click Quit, but it do not sync for itself and I have to click the sync button every time I quit the programme.(I am not sure if I should reply to this old post or open a new topic. Please let me know which is the right way.) Link to comment
ever111 24 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The normal way to exit Evernote, as far as I was told, and as I do, is to do a file exit or file signout in the top left corner. Mine does a sync when I close it that way. I think the thing in the tray is the clipper, so you are closing down via the clipper. But when I do the file signout, the logon screen comes up and I do your right click exit then to close the logon screen.You do have sync on exit checked in tools profile sync (no reply necessary if yes).Guess the right click exit from the tray should act the same though, as you say. Somebody want to help?(Maybe you should open a ticket) Link to comment
akevit 5 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 I made an autohotkey script that will remap the escape key to sync Evernote and close to the system tray with a single press: ; Remaps escape key to a macro that presses F9 then closes to system tray#SingleInstance ForceSetTitleMatchMode 2#IfWinActive, ahk_class ENMainFrame Escape:: send {F9} WinHide, ahk_class ENMainFrame return Just install AHK, save this to a *.ahk text file, then place in your startup directory. Link to comment
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